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chillfactor

(7,573 posts)
1. talk about a waste of human bodies walking around...
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 10:56 PM
Dec 2015

seems like this group has lights out in their balcony....

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
2. That was fascinating. The Republians have a huge problem on their hands.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 10:59 PM
Dec 2015

They have a majority wanting to vote for someone who is not controlled by the party because a chunk of their base hates their party.

If Trump is not nominated, especially if a brokered conventions gives someone else the nomination, they will loose.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
5. That's the first thing I thought of. His supporters won't budge from him, and if the party
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:31 PM
Dec 2015

(or a group of wealthy contributors as I've heard is going to happen in Jan.) force Trump out of the running, all those people aren't just going to go home and quietly sulk. They're going to fight back. I think one of three things will happen: Trump will run third party, his voters will vote for the Dem candidate as payback, his voters will just stay home! No matter what, no party candidate can win if 30-35% of their voters stay home!

I say, sit back and enjoy the show!!!!

napi21

(45,806 posts)
8. They may well be, but that only matters in Iowa, and Iowa only has 4 Reps & 2 Sens.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:10 AM
Dec 2015

All the hoopla about Iowa is a big propaganda show.

HubertHeaver

(2,520 posts)
9. It gives the talking heads something to scream about.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:37 AM
Dec 2015

In 2012 the R's gave the win to Romney, implying it gave him momentum going into New Hampshire. They finally had to admit the actual winner was Santorum, far too late to allow him to claim any momentum from his actual win.

In 2008, the headlines were Hillary finishes 3rd, Obama wins. Nary a mention of second place finisher, John Edwards. No ink, no airtime, nothing. It was as if he just dropped out after Iowa.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
13. The people who will weep for 'Murka when Bernie Sanders wins the Presidency.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:58 AM
Dec 2015

LOL and fuck their tears, because 24 months later THEIR lives will be better off for it, too.

W T F

(1,145 posts)
10. Divide and Conquer. Trump is a man to love and hate.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:48 AM
Dec 2015

The Republicans are doomed. They know the more Trump continues with his demagoguery, the more he alienates Latinos from the republican party, and for any Republican to get elected, they need 60% of the Latino vote. He's already burned that bridge. But if they kick him out, he'll run as a third party and syphon off 30% of the republican base.

Midnight Writer

(21,712 posts)
12. Interesting to hear the "impotence" reference
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:05 AM
Dec 2015

This isn't about conservative policies at all, it is about rudderless lost people wanting a strongman to protect them from everything they are afraid of.

Every policy proposed by Trump is an expansion of "Big Government", from a database to track people, control of the internet, deporting millions of people, invading Middle Eastern countries to take their oil, legalizing torture, even building a massive border wall. Hardly classic "Get the Government Out of Our Lives" conservatism.

But all of his proposals make him seem like the strong "Daddy" figure that will protect these folks from their personal boogeymen borne out of a changing America, whether it is minorities, terrorists, feminists, other religions, loss of American "face", or economic changes.

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