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The Bundy Brothers Don't Care About the Constitution - Here's What They Really Want... (Original Post) thomhartmann Jan 2016 OP
Ignorant fuckers always want that Warpy Jan 2016 #1
What they really want is use of Government land without paying any fees. The_Casual_Observer Jan 2016 #2
They want more than that. zeemike Jan 2016 #3
Has anyone check up on BlueTarpGuy? L. Coyote Jan 2016 #4
Thank you Thom...from an Oregonian passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #5
Thom, you need to look back to a survey done during the Dubya Era... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #6

Warpy

(111,224 posts)
1. Ignorant fuckers always want that
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 05:36 PM
Jan 2016

because they're too ignorant to have read the history of the period when those Articles were in force. Dixie, especially, has always regretted moving to a constitutional government, and that's mostly what the Civil War was about. Slavery was only one of the things they wanted to keep without interference from the rest of the country.

Any fucking moron who yammers about "states' rights!" has never read history.

The truth is that the Constitutional Convention was called because the member states were on the verge of war and it was obvious that total self governance with a weak central government that was incapable of doing much of anything when it came to arbitrating disputes because it was toothless was not going to work.

The Articles of Confederation had been an utter and complete disaster. Had they remained in force for another decade, we'd be singing "God Save the Queen" instead of God Bless America."

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
2. What they really want is use of Government land without paying any fees.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 06:14 PM
Jan 2016

They aren't going to get away with that shit much longer, this isn't going to end well for any of them.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
3. They want more than that.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jan 2016

They want private ownership of public lands...and the privatizations of all government functions...eventually Neo Feudalism

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
5. Thank you Thom...from an Oregonian
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jan 2016

Who is very disturbed by this standoff and so far the government's reaction to it.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
6. Thom, you need to look back to a survey done during the Dubya Era...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 11:50 PM
Jan 2016

They went into the heart of Red State America and presented passages from The Bill of Rights as if they were laws the Democrats wanted to get passed. Overwhelmingly the respondents felt the "new" laws were "Too Liberal" or even "Commie".

I think you covered that survey at the time in a prior show. It was about the time the Republicans were defending The Patriot Act and torture.

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