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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:12 AM Jan 2016

A "History Making Event" in past several hours, broadcast directly from a computer screen ... LOL

... broadcast as quickly as possible .... "you guys" ... first time ever in history of the United States of America ... someone drives into an FBI compound.

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A "History Making Event" in past several hours, broadcast directly from a computer screen ... LOL (Original Post) L. Coyote Jan 2016 OP
Too long, didn't watch, passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #1
The first premise, "Welcome to the center of the universe at the most important time ever" L. Coyote Jan 2016 #2
I need field notes. What is being negotiated here? flamingdem Jan 2016 #3
Without having to even watch the video 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #4
Attention. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #6
Pretty sure camping overnight in the administration buildings cheapdate Jan 2016 #7
Yes, there will be charges brought. Authorities have said so. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #8
Agree. cheapdate Jan 2016 #9
I hope that you are right and the federal government brings serious charges against them, Cassidy Jan 2016 #24
They can under RICO.... reACTIONary Jan 2016 #37
I'll bet they had not thought of that angle. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #38
Snacks. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #19
DUZY L. Coyote Jan 2016 #30
I dozed off at about the 6 minute mark. bearssoapbox Jan 2016 #5
Does he ever get to the part where I start caring? WhoIsNumberNone Jan 2016 #10
The guy in the background who kept clamering about how historic the metting was?? WTF? Quixote1818 Jan 2016 #11
They are chalking this up as a victory. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #20
The video says they are 3%ers and Bundy sent them packing Quixote1818 Jan 2016 #22
That pretty much sums it up. These guys didn't read "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg" and don't know L. Coyote Jan 2016 #28
I expect the KKK to show up next. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #33
Guessing that GoPros with trucker cap mounts are being air lifted to them as we speak. Freelancer Jan 2016 #12
Aw, how nice. They bonded and shook hands. PADemD Jan 2016 #13
I love history. rusty quoin Jan 2016 #14
Murica, where freedom is crossing state lines in a heavily-armed militia caravan to provide security L. Coyote Jan 2016 #15
Bubbles are a big force today, without foundations in reality. rusty quoin Jan 2016 #16
They actually drove up and talked to real FBI guys and didn't crap themselves..... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #18
DUZY. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #31
I was half expecting them to swap brownie recipes.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #17
This is the group Bundy told to leave so nothing worthwhile occured here in the least Quixote1818 Jan 2016 #21
There must be TWO embedded reporters, because here's the encounter from a different angle. TrollBuster9090 Jan 2016 #23
They knew they were coming, whole County was watching, militarily-armed caravan, a dozen vehicles, L. Coyote Jan 2016 #29
Bundy has no authority Geronimoe Jan 2016 #25
Without the FBI logo, it would be hard to tell them apart pediatricmedic Jan 2016 #26
Not every applicant is accepted! L. Coyote Jan 2016 #27
And what is going on here? rickford66 Jan 2016 #32
Campaign 2016 wage the dog media carnival hosted by #BundyBunch pretending to be sagebrush rebels L. Coyote Jan 2016 #34
They have started libodem Jan 2016 #35
kick libodem Jan 2016 #36

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
2. The first premise, "Welcome to the center of the universe at the most important time ever"
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jan 2016

seems a tad overstated .... [center]

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
4. Without having to even watch the video
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:45 AM
Jan 2016

I'm guessing the armed interlopers want:
1) all these armed criminals to be able to walk free from any prosecution whatsoever for their crimes, if
they brandish enough weaponry to make their point,
and
2) for the Federal guv-mint to gift the Hammonds all the Federal game preserve they want to claim as
their own, for free.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
6. Attention.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:02 AM
Jan 2016

That's pretty much all I've seen so far, people acting out, doing street theater for attention. If you have spotted a crime you can pin on a specific person, let me know. Did you see a No Camping sign anywhere? If not, they have two weeks before you can make them camp at their next spot.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
7. Pretty sure camping overnight in the administration buildings
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:18 AM
Jan 2016

without authorization is not allowed, nor is misusing park resources, defacing park property, etc. Some have set up armed checkpoints on public roadways. Others have made explicit public threats to shoot to kill public officials if they move to remove them from these public facilities.

If I were to "occupy" one of my favorite buildings in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, or refused to abide by the park rules for overnight stays, I would without any doubt be confronted by park rangers and be made to comply or face arrest on any number of charges. Never mind if I took up residency in the park admin building with a rifle and explicitly threatened to shoot to kill any public official who tried to dislodge me.


L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
8. Yes, there will be charges brought. Authorities have said so.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:24 AM
Jan 2016

And, no doubt, the US Attorney is involved and the case is being built. The Feds have to weigh individual cases and evidence, they can't indict a group.

Cassidy

(202 posts)
24. I hope that you are right and the federal government brings serious charges against them,
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 08:09 AM
Jan 2016

but I won't believe it until it actually happens.

As far as i know, no charges have ever been brought against any of these guys when they trained their guns on Federal employees at the Bundy Ranch stand-off. Cliven Bundy is still grazing his cattle on BLM lands and still owes the American people over a million dollars.

Since Bundy and his right-wing terrorists continue to break laws and threaten people without penalties of any sort, it emboldens all these militias to continue breaking laws and marauding where they please.

I can understand the government wanting to de-escalate, but if there continue to be no penalties, we will only see more of these armed anarchists and their terrorist tactics.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
37. They can under RICO....
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:09 AM
Jan 2016

.... not saying it applies , but corrupt organizations and corporations can be subjected to the law as a group .

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
5. I dozed off at about the 6 minute mark.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:52 AM
Jan 2016

When I woke up a couple minutes later the stupid was still going on.

Done.

A bank of microphones???

Really?

They've had enough minutes of fame. Shut 'em down.



WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
10. Does he ever get to the part where I start caring?
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:40 AM
Jan 2016

Seriously- This dildo's watching with bated breath. All I see is some other dildos standing around in the snow. 8+ minutes in and he still hasn't clued me in on what's so exciting about this video that he couldn't trim it down first. Embedded journalist? Seriously? Some asshole who knows to hold his iPhone horizontally is more like it...

Quixote1818

(28,929 posts)
11. The guy in the background who kept clamering about how historic the metting was?? WTF?
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:52 AM
Jan 2016

It's amazing how their illusions of grandeur have clouded their already small brains. The FBI I am sure has been ordered to keep any situation defused which makes these bozo's feel like they are accomplishing something.

Quixote1818

(28,929 posts)
22. The video says they are 3%ers and Bundy sent them packing
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 05:02 AM
Jan 2016

They saw Bundy getting all this attention and getting free snacks and wanted their egos stroked as well. So that was nothing more than ego stroking verbal diarrhea that the FBI could care less about but to them it was earth moving history that will be talked about in the new history books for centuries to come.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/oregon-refuge-occupiers-send-armed-group-community/story?id=36191053

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
28. That pretty much sums it up. These guys didn't read "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg" and don't know
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jan 2016

about the bubble they live in.

What the world needs now is consensual reality!


The Crack in the Cosmic Egg: New Constructs of Mind and Reality

Freelancer

(2,107 posts)
12. Guessing that GoPros with trucker cap mounts are being air lifted to them as we speak.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:04 AM
Jan 2016

Aren't the reporters and camera operators for the networks ALSO trespassing. Taking them into custody first would defuse matters quicker than anything else. They don't need to charge them. Without the cameras, there's no point for these guys to stay there.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
14. I love history.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:09 AM
Jan 2016

This bit of history is how we let these armed dumb fucks get away with this, not what this dumb fuck is reporting as history.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
15. Murica, where freedom is crossing state lines in a heavily-armed militia caravan to provide security
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:33 AM
Jan 2016

for another group of militia, and pretend to be all important, and show off your guns and ammo, and talk to FBI guys, and surround a courthouse and sheriff, and scare the shit out of a whole county, and make a movie about it, all the while lost in your own reality bubble.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
31. DUZY.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jan 2016

"We parked on the public road near the barricaded entrance to the FBI staging area" sounds incredibly thrilling.
I'm going to town and parking near the courthouse today to give the experience a try. Hope I don't crap myself.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
23. There must be TWO embedded reporters, because here's the encounter from a different angle.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 05:38 AM
Jan 2016

FBI confronts Militiamen. (And I have to say, it really IS pretty damned pathetic when this gang of boozed-up cavemen drives down to confront the FBI, and they had no idea they were even coming. You guys are about as on-the-ball as the Secret Service detail that's guarding the White House.)

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
29. They knew they were coming, whole County was watching, militarily-armed caravan, a dozen vehicles,
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jan 2016

went to Malheur first, announced their intentions to the press there, and went off to terrorize Burns. Half the town probably had their weapons cleaned before they came near city limits.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
25. Bundy has no authority
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 08:56 AM
Jan 2016

He has no authority to tell these people to leave. It isn't his land! Only a week ago Bundy was inviting everyone to join him.

They dropped off steaks for the Bundy gang and didn't even bring donuts for the FBI. All the FBI got was articles of consideration. Not too smart of them.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
27. Not every applicant is accepted!
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:12 PM
Jan 2016

Some become local sheriffs, some become cops, some pretend for the rest of their lives.

All of the above can be in these militias when out of official uniform, just like the sheriff in the south is the likeliest suspect to be under the robe leading the local clan.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
34. Campaign 2016 wage the dog media carnival hosted by #BundyBunch pretending to be sagebrush rebels
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jan 2016

and trying to provoke the federal government and demanding the USA go home and give them all the land to exploit as they wish.
In other words, just another Trump rally!

Official Member Of Trump Campaign Joins Oregon Militia
by Alan Pyke Jan 7, 2016

The co-chairman of Donald Trump’s New Hampshire “Veterans for Trump” group has arrived in Burns, Oregon, to assist the small cadre of armed men who are seeking to provoke a standoff with federal officials there.
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That not-quite-standoff began over the weekend when a handful of men led by Ammon Bundy decided to turn a much larger peaceful protest over a decision to send two ranchers back to jail for arson into an armed struggle. The group’s numbers are small – especially compared to the 300 who reportedly joined the peaceful protest of the re-sentencing – but they have now been reinforced by Jerry DeLemus, a former United States Marine living on the opposite side of the country.

Trump himself has said little about the situation in Oregon, following the pattern of most of the GOP primary candidates. But on Tuesday he seemed to tell The Hill it was time for the Bundy crew to pack it in and go home. “You have to maintain law and order, no matter what,” he said.

It is at least the second time DeLemus has ridden to the physical aid of a Bundy. When Ammon’s father Cliven had his cattle impounded by the Bureau of Land Management in 2014 over more than $1 million in unpaid fines and fees for his use of public lands, DeLemus and his son drove 41 hours in three days to come help. ....
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