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polichick
(37,152 posts)If voters wake up, something good could come of this.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Democracy is dead.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It died tonight. How true.
It's extremely sad. We will all go through the motions until November, but democracy is dead. The fascist justices on the United States Supreme Court killed it with their Citizens United decision.
My freedom of speech, your freedom of speech, the freedom of speech of flesh and blood Americans is subject to regulation -- stiff regulation in many situations.
But the speech of the cold and lifeless corporations is unfettered and everywhere.
Democracy means government by the people. That is gone. It has now been replaced by government by the corporations.
RonWF
(5 posts)The unions pumped in as much money as the corporate interests did. This election was not decided on the basis of who spent the most money. It was decided on the messages of the candidates. Walker told people what he had done and that he intended to keep on doing it. Barrett never expressed an alternative plan. He ran on "I'm not Walker", but never gave people a concrete plan of what he was going to do. He was a bad candidate who had failed the first time and has now failed worse.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Dokkie
(1,688 posts)CNN had a graphic that said 88% of the voters made up their minds before MAY showing that money had very little effect on their votes. Also I seriously doubt that money can have that much of an effect in a highly covered election like this one. I am here in Omaha NE but I know so much about the 2 candidates. You guys have to understand that a lot of young people don't believe in unions anymore, you have to convince the 87% of the other non union workers of WI that voting in favor of unions is going to somehow benefit them.
That my friend is a hard sell especially in the face of cuts in property taxes. Its sad but just like Civil rights, feminism etc, the younger generations dont see much use for em anymore
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Corporations is wrong, it is not true, and it and similar statements, such as going after Democrats in a broad brush fashion, are considered to be a RW talking points here at DU.
And I have been asking Democrats here to make an effort to understand that GOP voters are literally voting in what they consider to be their best interest, but I think there is a problem with a lack of familiarity with those interests.
There is a rural versus urban dynamic at work that needs to be appreciated by all sides. Much of the Democratic base lives in metropolitan areas and the facts of life are different from those trying to hold onto a life on the land.
I don't think ideology is going to change for either group, but common ground must be found to escape the results of extremists being put in office.
Democrats in general support unions as the way of helping the working person and promoting social mobility. The GOP is seen as a party that is working to increase social stratification that does not help others to move up the ladder.
Tnanks for the reply.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)People are too apathetic or busy working to take on these villains
young_at_heart
(3,766 posts)The average American has no idea what that is but the plutocrats have done an excellent job of manipulation of the masses.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)razorman
(1,644 posts)one election. We gave it a good try, but it just didn't go our way. Instead of being pansies, we need to pick ourselves up, lick our wounds and get ready to go again in November. It's not over yet.
Proles
(466 posts)Indeeed, democracy as we knew it already died 12 years ago, but that doesn't mean things can't go our way if the left stays unified.
November is definitely more important. God forbid anyone on the left stay home that month, lest people want this country perpetually gridlocked by a republican congress.
razorman
(1,644 posts)Yes, it takes a beating once in a while. But, just because our side happens to lose an election now and again does not mean that all is lost. I heard Republicans say the same thing when President Obama was elected, as well as President Clinton before him. I have been voting since Ford/Carter, and have heard someone from the losing side each time predict the end of the USA because of it. So, excuse me if I fail to panic when things don't go my way. Life sucks. Then you die.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Not a pretty picture.
I don't think it's an overreaction. Democracy IS pretty much dead in this country.