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Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
5. He was bought before he became President
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 05:02 AM
Mar 2016

This actually was while he was getting impeached and he was a lame duck.

It is politically difficult to impeach a President who has favorable ratings.

videohead5

(2,172 posts)
3. The Problem is
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:43 AM
Mar 2016

No one is going to get singles payer through congress the way it is now.Obama had to drop the public option out of Obamacare and then he still had a bitch of a time getting it passed.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
4. Obama didn't know how to get the public involved and fight
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:54 AM
Mar 2016

He wanted to schmooze it all inside the beltway. He left us out of it. Big mistake.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
9. Not exactly. Discussion of single payer was VERBOTEN.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 06:01 AM
Mar 2016

It was verboten because if the people knew how efficient and less expensive it was they would insist on single payer. There was no discussion of single payer leading up to the ACA.

How do we know what kind of citizen pressure would have been brought to bear on the legislative process if the people were allowed to hear the truth about single payer.

That is why there are thousands of anti-single payer and misinformationist paid internet sock puppets. They are all over social media. They say things like this system or that system isn't true single payer. They have all sorts of insurance industry and pharmaceutical industry talking points.

Misinformation is the largest impediment to single payer. The legislature would change if people were allowed to know the truth.

TubbersUK

(1,439 posts)
10. Totally agree
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 07:50 AM
Mar 2016

It takes a lot of people pushing a lot of misinformation to distract from the fact that America's inadequate healthcare system costs a jaw-dropping 17.2% of GDP.

Some of the propaganda and diversionary tactics are shameless, Americans deserve better.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
6. Divide And Conquer - Carrot And Stick - Pander And Plunder - Never Any Progress Or Action
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 05:03 AM
Mar 2016

Same Old - Same Old

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
12. USA needs to see this in Bernie2016 political advertisement. It would be entertaining to see
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:15 AM
Mar 2016

the Bill lie and explain that "yes, I was wrong then, but I'm right now in supporting ObamaCare as the system for America." Followed by some right-wing bullshit how personal struggles with deadly diseases make us strong -- not weak and uncreative like the Western Europeans. Vote Bernie2016 to remove the collar of debt slavery.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
14. He is apologizing before the biggest jump Left yet, so Hillary can campaign like Bill did in 1992.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 11:42 AM
Mar 2016

Right after Bill entered the Oval Office, Bill and Hill began privatizing and modernizing federal acts with Republicans like Phil Gramm and Newt Gingrich and with banks and Savings and Loans. Clinton's are now trying to back track on the harm and starvation of the rice and farming commodity system that the Clinton's and Republicans- set in to place using Big Corporate Ag.


See last one: Drug Patents. Hillary is lying about her 20% drop in drug prices policy.
http://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-news/8-policy-decisions-bill-clinton-now-regrets-150721?news=857012


http://www.agritrade.org/Publications/PolicyFocus/Farm_Bill_5_white_commodities.pdf

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