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Chris Matthews Exposed By Thom Hartmann (Original Post) Red Knight Mar 2016 OP
Did not know... Mike Nelson Mar 2016 #1
Some were but not all of them to my knowledge. Red Knight Mar 2016 #2
I paid about 250 a quarter at university, about 100 at community college in the late 70s Buzz cook Mar 2016 #4
Early 1970's, when I got my AA degree dixiegrrrrl Mar 2016 #12
Practically free. Our tuition at a good PUBLIC COLLEGE in a small town appalachiablue Mar 2016 #5
Some public colleges were, but even those that were not were pretty cheap. tblue37 Mar 2016 #8
Just Fuck Tweety shadowmayor Mar 2016 #3
Some hypocrisy. I was stunned last nite at prog. NYC Mayor DeBlasio appalachiablue Mar 2016 #6
Here's what bothers me about that Red Knight Mar 2016 #7
They're trying to change the definition of "progressive" to be what "centrism" currently is. earthshine Mar 2016 #10
PINOs, no use for them. Bill Clinton's New Covenant Speech included working appalachiablue Mar 2016 #13
The new found PINO act is insincere & I hope most can detect it now after many years adrift. appalachiablue Mar 2016 #14
Make no mistake. Chris Matthews is voting for Trump. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #9
The primary candidate Matthews' wife is running against swilton Mar 2016 #11
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Mar 2016 #15
Chris, look here, just for You! JK- appalachiablue Mar 2016 #16
That gif is hilarious! klook Mar 2016 #20
Luv it. Adapted from Bernie's original 'Monster Mash' which his fun, done by appalachiablue Mar 2016 #21
I don't know how any rational poster here could take Matthews seriously Chakab Mar 2016 #17
I had a feeling that there was some kind of dana_b Mar 2016 #18
Matthews should win some kind of asshole award. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #19

Red Knight

(704 posts)
2. Some were but not all of them to my knowledge.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 04:35 PM
Mar 2016

But apparently "social" security is not a socialist program either and apparently Bernie wants to control the means of production because "that hasn't come up yet".

Matthews is such a tool. It's embarrassing to watch.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
4. I paid about 250 a quarter at university, about 100 at community college in the late 70s
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 04:51 PM
Mar 2016

That was for 15 credits.

If you want to go further back my dad paid 900 total for undergrad and med school in the late 40 to early 50s.

As I've said repeatedly, before Reagan a minimum wage job could pay for a college education, after Reagan that would be a pipe dream.



dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. Early 1970's, when I got my AA degree
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 06:13 PM
Mar 2016

85.00 a quarter.

College, BA '74 to '76....work study, partial scholarship, Seattle - I was MAKING 900.00 a month and paying for school costs, from that, no problem.
Same with '77 to '79 for Master's....
Graduated with zero debt. All grants and scholarships, because once you got in on a grant, if you made high grades, you got scholarships.

Have no idea when the colleges got so greedy.

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
5. Practically free. Our tuition at a good PUBLIC COLLEGE in a small town
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 04:51 PM
Mar 2016

in the 1970s was $200-300 per semester. Books maybe $100. Apt. rent $150.

The Univ. of CA system had Free Public Colleges, for 100 years, before Reagan killed it.

Pres. Lincoln set up the many affordable LAND GRANT Colleges in the US.

Even graduate school at a private university in a major US city was about $600 tuition per semester, late 70s- early 80s.

Five of us boomers, most 3rd gen. college- had NO STUDENT DEBT when we left school and there were good jobs & careers. Plenty.

What has been manipulated to starve the US middle class and young people in favor of more profit is shocking over 35 years.

Things must change, now. Hard turn LEFT. The only way--

tblue37

(65,206 posts)
8. Some public colleges were, but even those that were not were pretty cheap.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:09 PM
Mar 2016

Here at the University of Kansas, in-state tuition for 12 credits (= minimum for full time enrollment) cost $360/semester, but then you could take as many more credits as you wanted to at no extra cost. I used to enroll in 22-28 credits per semester for $360!

Even when my son went to college here (he graduated in December of 2002), 15 credits a semester cost just $1,100. Since he had a 50% scholarship, that mean a whole 30-credit year cost him just $1,100.

Now, in-state tuition and fees at KU costs $10,802 for 15 credits.


Standard tuition = $9,123
Required campus fees = $934


(Out-of-state = $26,640.)

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
6. Some hypocrisy. I was stunned last nite at prog. NYC Mayor DeBlasio
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 04:58 PM
Mar 2016

on MSNBC with Matthews. De B. went on and on how lucky Dems. were to have such progressive platforms and leaders. Tweety even brought up socialism and the two had a decent, fairly long talk with NONE of this Anger and contempt. Yet NO MENTION OF BERNIE, not once in the entire session.
The pitch to cop Bernie's progressive message is clear now, even in the recent campaign speeches.

Red Knight

(704 posts)
7. Here's what bothers me about that
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:08 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary will sell herself as a progressive to the progressives.

She will not govern that way.

The next time a true progressive runs people will roll their eyes and say, "Yeah--saw what that looks like."

I'd rather she just be upfront and honest about who she is and how she will govern. That has started to slip a bit as she gets closer to the nomination. And I hope it does. Don't govern like a centrist under the PROGRESSIVE banner. Admit who you are and what you're doing.

I hope that is what happens ultimately. People need to know the difference--otherwise the word--the movement will lose steam and meaning in the minds of a lot of people.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
10. They're trying to change the definition of "progressive" to be what "centrism" currently is.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

It's the proverbial moving of the goalpost. It's what the "third-way" does.

Obama has repeatedly tried to sell himself as a "progressive." In this video, he refers to the TPP as being "progressive."

Most of the time, Obama attempts to make logical arguments for his points of view. But not on this subject. Here he talks about his belief in it and that we should accept his word for it without logical argument.

One can tell from his body language that he does not believe what he's selling, and neither do I.

This election, we have a chance to take a yuuuuge step toward getting the big money out of politics. But, only if people vote for Sanders. Clinton is bathed in it and all the corruption that it brings.




appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
13. PINOs, no use for them. Bill Clinton's New Covenant Speech included working
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 06:21 PM
Mar 2016

with labor issues and more, like Obama saying he would walk the picket line and call the Pres. of Mexico to redo NAFTA.

This country must make a HARD LEFT TURN. Now. The only chance to stop decline and more misery.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
11. The primary candidate Matthews' wife is running against
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:55 PM
Mar 2016

is the immensely popular State Senator Jamie Raskin. Also a law professor, he's not accepting corporate donations - entirely grass roots funded. Knew him when I lived in Md.; Maryland would be lucky to have him as their 8th District Congressman. Raskin's endorsements include at least The Sierra Club, the NEA, Progressive Neighbors, and limitless state politicos.

https://jamieraskin.com/about-jamie

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
21. Luv it. Adapted from Bernie's original 'Monster Mash' which his fun, done by
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:11 PM
Mar 2016

media pundits Mark Halperin & John Heileman last spring.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
17. I don't know how any rational poster here could take Matthews seriously
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 08:29 PM
Mar 2016

after watching that interview.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
18. I had a feeling that there was some kind of
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 08:41 PM
Mar 2016

connection between him and the Clintons. I'm sure most here felt that way.

Yuck - I feel like I need to take a shower.

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