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The sexism charges against Bernie are complete bullshit (Original Post) liberalnarb Mar 2016 OP
The whole smear just makes HRC look weak NowSam Mar 2016 #1
women who bring up sexism are fragile flowers? saturnsring Mar 2016 #3
How in the world is it sexist NowSam Mar 2016 #4
Its not sexist. Just a worthless bullshit argument liberalnarb Mar 2016 #6
Exactly. NowSam Mar 2016 #7
If you just read that, it's not rock Mar 2016 #11
I think that is absurd NowSam Mar 2016 #13
Good for you rock Mar 2016 #16
Wait, did I really just read that? Bubzer Mar 2016 #22
A good point to quit on rock Mar 2016 #23
No, one does not have to be careful about tone when being interrupted. Bubzer Mar 2016 #19
Of course you think that rock Mar 2016 #20
Sure. Whatever you say. You think he was sexist... and she's a delicate flower... Bubzer Mar 2016 #21
None of which I said rock Mar 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author daleanime Mar 2016 #2
Well HRC does outrank Bernie. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #5
K&R..... daleanime Mar 2016 #8
A distraction Geronimoe Mar 2016 #9
+1 daleanime Mar 2016 #12
I don't think Bernie is sexist. Nitram Mar 2016 #10
I love you Ana Kasparian! yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #14
He is responding to being lied about. davidthegnome Mar 2016 #15
I agree... LAS14 Mar 2016 #17
Men of his age? When speaking to women?? liberalnarb Mar 2016 #18

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
1. The whole smear just makes HRC look weak
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:02 PM
Mar 2016

Because either she is presidential and can stand up to a 74 year old man or she is a fragile little flower. Which is it?

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
4. How in the world is it sexist
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:22 PM
Mar 2016

to tell a person, "Excuse me" when they are interrupting you?

How is that sexist? He would have said it to any man or woman who was being rude.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
7. Exactly.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:37 PM
Mar 2016

What is Sexist is to suggest that she needs some special consideration because of her gender. He treated her as an equal and her fans don't like that. She needs some special advantage. That sets back the gender equality movement in my opinion.

rock

(13,218 posts)
11. If you just read that, it's not
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:50 PM
Mar 2016

But if you hear it, it has attitude. In areas of sexism, racism, and agism, one needs to be especially careful about tone.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
13. I think that is absurd
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:55 PM
Mar 2016

I think that he would have used that exact tone against Martin O'Malley had he still been in the debate. Gender has zero to do with this. It is worse than just imagining it. It is to push a false narrative and slander and smear a great candidate.

rock

(13,218 posts)
16. Good for you
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:06 PM
Mar 2016

That would have been an OK tone to use against O'malley, but that misses my point. Bernie should try to tone it down in those social situations where it can be misinterpreted (especially by those with political axes to grind).

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Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
22. Wait, did I really just read that?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:30 PM
Mar 2016

"That would have been an OK tone to use against O'Malley" but not Hillary? Now who's being sexist? I think I'm done dealing with you.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
19. No, one does not have to be careful about tone when being interrupted.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:23 PM
Mar 2016

Especially when being a politician who is herself guilty of interrupting others during debates... unless of course, your contention is that she's sexist as well.

Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
9. A distraction
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

This is similar to flaming. Hillary lies about Bernie's record on bailing out auto industry and then start flaming to avoid being called out for her lie. What is being hidden in the role Bill and Hillary played in passing NAFTA and deregulating banks that destroyed jobs and factories in Michigan. You attack your opponent on your greatest weakness.

TYT needs to be careful of getting caught in the Clinton's campaign plan of misinformation and cover up. This is a perfect example of wag the dog.

Nitram

(22,765 posts)
10. I don't think Bernie is sexist.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:50 PM
Mar 2016

I would like to see Clinton supporters drop that argument. Bernie can be a little rude or brusque at times, but compared to someone like Trump, he's a saint.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
15. He is responding to being lied about.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

He is doing so much more politely than I would. He voted in favor of a bill that would have bailed out the auto-industry, he voted against a later bill that included that, but also was intended to bail out wall street. No, he didn't vote against bailing out the auto-industry, he voted against bailing out wall street and the crooks that crashed our economy.

Also, all that stuff about pointing and finger wagging that some were complaining about... Clinton is doing some pretty serious finger shaking/pointing there. "Tell the whole story Senator!" He was trying to tell the whole story.

Context matters. If this was in a different context I might say Sanders was being rude - but he isn't. Given the conversation on stage he is being much more polite than she deserves. As for the charges of sexism... I really don't get it.

LAS14

(13,769 posts)
17. I agree...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016

... that he illustrated a difference in tone that men of his age can let slip when speaking to women. But I don't doubt his genuine commitment to equal rights and I, as a Hillary supporter, think we should just let the whole thing drop.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
18. Men of his age? When speaking to women??
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:55 PM
Mar 2016

Thats equally ridiculous, agist and plain BS, he was talking to her the same way he would speak to a male opponent, end of story. It had nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman.

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