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(1,252 posts)Because either she is presidential and can stand up to a 74 year old man or she is a fragile little flower. Which is it?
saturnsring
(1,832 posts)what's next bernie? telling her to shut up?
NowSam
(1,252 posts)to tell a person, "Excuse me" when they are interrupting you?
How is that sexist? He would have said it to any man or woman who was being rude.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)What is Sexist is to suggest that she needs some special consideration because of her gender. He treated her as an equal and her fans don't like that. She needs some special advantage. That sets back the gender equality movement in my opinion.
rock
(13,218 posts)But if you hear it, it has attitude. In areas of sexism, racism, and agism, one needs to be especially careful about tone.
NowSam
(1,252 posts)I think that he would have used that exact tone against Martin O'Malley had he still been in the debate. Gender has zero to do with this. It is worse than just imagining it. It is to push a false narrative and slander and smear a great candidate.
That would have been an OK tone to use against O'malley, but that misses my point. Bernie should try to tone it down in those social situations where it can be misinterpreted (especially by those with political axes to grind).
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Bubzer
(4,211 posts)"That would have been an OK tone to use against O'Malley" but not Hillary? Now who's being sexist? I think I'm done dealing with you.
rock
(13,218 posts)Another one that you don't get.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Especially when being a politician who is herself guilty of interrupting others during debates... unless of course, your contention is that she's sexist as well.
rock
(13,218 posts)And as usual you just don't get it.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)But thanks anyways.
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LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)She is a Madamn and he is only a Senator.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)This is similar to flaming. Hillary lies about Bernie's record on bailing out auto industry and then start flaming to avoid being called out for her lie. What is being hidden in the role Bill and Hillary played in passing NAFTA and deregulating banks that destroyed jobs and factories in Michigan. You attack your opponent on your greatest weakness.
TYT needs to be careful of getting caught in the Clinton's campaign plan of misinformation and cover up. This is a perfect example of wag the dog.
Nitram
(22,765 posts)I would like to see Clinton supporters drop that argument. Bernie can be a little rude or brusque at times, but compared to someone like Trump, he's a saint.
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davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)He is doing so much more politely than I would. He voted in favor of a bill that would have bailed out the auto-industry, he voted against a later bill that included that, but also was intended to bail out wall street. No, he didn't vote against bailing out the auto-industry, he voted against bailing out wall street and the crooks that crashed our economy.
Also, all that stuff about pointing and finger wagging that some were complaining about... Clinton is doing some pretty serious finger shaking/pointing there. "Tell the whole story Senator!" He was trying to tell the whole story.
Context matters. If this was in a different context I might say Sanders was being rude - but he isn't. Given the conversation on stage he is being much more polite than she deserves. As for the charges of sexism... I really don't get it.
LAS14
(13,769 posts)... that he illustrated a difference in tone that men of his age can let slip when speaking to women. But I don't doubt his genuine commitment to equal rights and I, as a Hillary supporter, think we should just let the whole thing drop.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)Thats equally ridiculous, agist and plain BS, he was talking to her the same way he would speak to a male opponent, end of story. It had nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman.