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Is Trump somehow worse than Cruz? (Original Post) liberalnarb Mar 2016 OP
I think Cruz is the most dangerous politician we've seen since Joe McCarthy. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #1
What's scarier about Cruz is that it's not an act. He BELIEVES the crap he says. leveymg Mar 2016 #9
That's it. Plain and simple. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #10
I believe both would be detrimental to the nation monicaangela Mar 2016 #2
Detrimental is an understatement. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #5
If Trump is elected, the key is the Vice President because the ladjf Mar 2016 #12
Believe me monicaangela Mar 2016 #14
I think we are just considering the effect each would have. If we run a candidate that cannot beat djean111 Mar 2016 #6
that is true djean111 monicaangela Mar 2016 #24
Hopefully, that is also true of the Democratic Party, n'est-ce pas? djean111 Mar 2016 #25
You got that right.. monicaangela Mar 2016 #26
Well, Cruz believes the US, and then the world, should be run as a theocracy, and that all djean111 Mar 2016 #3
Yep. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #15
Anyone that says:" Congress would never let a president do anything like that "... freebrew Mar 2016 #18
True, that! djean111 Mar 2016 #19
Somehow? Gman Mar 2016 #4
Yes, Kasich is dangerous. He would eliminate the safety nets as soon as he could, and djean111 Mar 2016 #8
ALL of the Republicans are bat sh..t crazy and very dangerous. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #13
Exactly!!! 2naSalit Mar 2016 #20
Cruz may be crazy randr Mar 2016 #7
I think cruz is diabolical. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #11
Both would be detrimental serbbral Mar 2016 #16
Suicide for the GOP, death for America ruralsteve Mar 2016 #17
Is Arsenic worse than Cyanide? zebonaut Mar 2016 #21
Cruz: The Chosen One homegirl Mar 2016 #22
Trump is worst than Cruz.... johnnyrocket Mar 2016 #23
Flip sides of an evil coin Zambero Mar 2016 #27
One is a secular fascist, the other is a religious fascist. Warpy Mar 2016 #28
Trump money - R establishment cannot control him snowy owl Mar 2016 #29
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
1. I think Cruz is the most dangerous politician we've seen since Joe McCarthy.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:57 AM
Mar 2016

He wants to turn this country into a theocracy. A very dangerous fool.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
9. What's scarier about Cruz is that it's not an act. He BELIEVES the crap he says.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:06 AM
Mar 2016

Zealots are always far more dangerous than pitchmen.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
2. I believe both would be detrimental to the nation
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:57 AM
Mar 2016

Which one would be worse is like trying to decide which would do more harm. Problem is, they would both do harm so why consider either of them?

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
5. Detrimental is an understatement.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:00 AM
Mar 2016

I still think cruz is more dangerous because trump would do something stupid enough to get himself impeached.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
12. If Trump is elected, the key is the Vice President because the
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:09 AM
Mar 2016

VP is likely to become the President after Trump is impeached.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
14. Believe me
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:10 AM
Mar 2016

I would never want to see a dominionist in the White House, don't even want to see him in congress but because our system is so flawed he's there. I agree with you on Trump, he appears to be the type that is impulsive, however I do believe he would solidify his control over the defense department and criminal justice in this nation and make it very difficult for anyone to impeach him. He is just as dangerous as Cruz. He appears clownish and unintelligent but I don't believe that for a minute. I would say crafty and criminal to say the least and someone that should never gain the type of power the office of the president would afford him. I also think he would probably bring in someone like Christie to head the DOJ, and our gooses would be cooked if that happened.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
6. I think we are just considering the effect each would have. If we run a candidate that cannot beat
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:01 AM
Mar 2016

Trump, then it is interesting, at least, to consider what would happen to this country. It is not like we can control who will be their nominee.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
24. that is true djean111
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:46 PM
Mar 2016

It appears they can't even control who will be their nominee. The Republican party that is.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
25. Hopefully, that is also true of the Democratic Party, n'est-ce pas?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:22 PM
Mar 2016

Although they are giving that their very best shot.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
26. You got that right..
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:24 PM
Mar 2016

If it were left up to Wasserman Shultz there wouldn't even be a primary election. I believe she would have preferred to go right to the coronation of her candidate. Sad day in America.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. Well, Cruz believes the US, and then the world, should be run as a theocracy, and that all
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:58 AM
Mar 2016

money, power, and property should be turned over to Christians.

If you say hey, Congress would never let a president do anything like that - then why care who is president?

I do think Trump is horrible, but he is also not as horrible as the rest of that terrible line-up.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
18. Anyone that says:" Congress would never let a president do anything like that "...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:01 PM
Mar 2016

must have missed the * years...

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
8. Yes, Kasich is dangerous. He would eliminate the safety nets as soon as he could, and
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:03 AM
Mar 2016

he does not care for gay marriage, either. Nothing scarier than a calculating financial and social hit man, who looks like a reasonable accountant.

randr

(12,409 posts)
7. Cruz may be crazy
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:02 AM
Mar 2016

but congress would remain opposed to him.
Trump is crazy and he would run right over congress.

ruralsteve

(20 posts)
17. Suicide for the GOP, death for America
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:57 AM
Mar 2016

I can't watch video with my slow connection, but didn't Lindsey Graham (who I am no fan of) say it best when he said something like his party having to chose between a Trump and a Cruz was like choosing between committing suicide with a gun or with poison?

If either of them actually became president, everything America should stand for will be in mortal danger.

johnnyrocket

(1,773 posts)
23. Trump is worst than Cruz....
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:05 PM
Mar 2016

....if only by the simple fact that Cruz is so repugnant, and unlikable...there's no way in hell he could win in the general.

Trump, however, is such a loose cannon, that fucker could do or say anything and throw the entire political map into chaos.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
27. Flip sides of an evil coin
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:34 PM
Mar 2016

One side is a Dominionist theocrat looking for an "End Times Solution" in the Middle East.
The other side is a neo-Fascist who employs a toxic mix of racism, nativism, sexism, fear mongering, and violent rhetoric to pit people against one another.
Unlike a Kasich or Rubio, I don't perceive any "lesser evil" between these two.

Warpy

(111,233 posts)
28. One is a secular fascist, the other is a religious fascist.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:44 PM
Mar 2016

Would you rather be shot in the head or stabbed in the heart?

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
29. Trump money - R establishment cannot control him
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:44 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not afraid of Trump but the republicans sure are. I think he says whatever will suffice at the time to stay on top. i don't think he'd do all that crap that he says. Yes, I could be wrong. And I know Trump is no friend to the working person. Is any republican? But I know what Cruz has done. I don't think he should be allowed to run for President.

But, Cruz is evil. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/opinion/the-brutalism-of-ted-cruz.html?_r=0

In 1997, Michael Wayne Haley was arrested after stealing a calculator from Walmart. This was a crime that merited a maximum two-year prison term. But prosecutors incorrectly applied a habitual offender law. Neither the judge nor the defense lawyer caught the error and Haley was sentenced to 16 years.

Eventually, the mistake came to light and Haley tried to fix it. Ted Cruz was solicitor general of Texas at the time. Instead of just letting Haley go for time served, Cruz took the case to the Supreme Court to keep Haley in prison for the full 16 years.

Some justices were skeptical. “Is there some rule that you can’t confess error in your state?” Justice Anthony Kennedy asked. The court system did finally let Haley out of prison, after six years.

The case reveals something interesting about Cruz’s character.


I think we are all being manipulated against Trump to the benefit of the republican establishment who does not want to lose control of candidates in the pockets of big money.

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