Why Neither Party Can Survive the Downfall of the Working Class...

[thomhartmann]

[elleng]

1. but the Dems will let it happen anyway.

[truedelphi]

2. So far the leadership in both parties has survived pretty damn well!

The Bush and Clinton Dynasties have access to tens of billions of dollars in "International Charities" that are their reward for helping preserve the status quo.

And Michelle and Barack will likely have even more.

Plus all the speaker's fees.

And even "minor" Party members, like former Gov. Ed Rendell, they end up with lucrative jobs inside Big Energy. All good ol' Boy Ed had to do for his current executive position was to sell out the soil, water and air in and around his native state of Pennsylvania.

[SusanCalvin]

3. Of course not. Any fool should be able to see that.

The question is not who are the "job creators" but who are the producers and buyers.

You can organize nothing all you want, but....

Edited to put quotes on "job creators." And to add that I haven't even watched the video yet, but I know this.

"Tenet," not "tenant." And if you think the GOP can reinvent itself in twice my or your (we are about the same age) lifetime, I have a bridge....

But in essence I completely agree.

[Warpy]

4. I've said Trump and Sanders are two sides of the same coin for months

so I guess according to some here that makes me a shill for Putin.

However, trying to pretend there's not something rotten in this country is going to do nothing for the stench. People on both sides are sick of it, sick of fighting for scraps and sick of watching fat Congressmen do little but play partisan one upmanship when they take breaks from fundraising, only agreeing to bloat the military and cut rich men's taxes.

There's a reason both frontrunners are despised by their respective party kingmakers. There's a reason both are relative outsiders, have few real ties to the Christian crazies, and are playing to the working class instead of the upper middle class.

The party that fails to notice what's really going on will be utterly doomed in the long run. I see no evidence that either party really has noticed, they're too busy being Chicken Littles about their primary challengers

[SusanCalvin]

5. Yep. Tired of watching the money being Hoovered upward.

Time to claw it back. We've been robbed since Reagan, pure and simple.

[Skittles]

7. Trump and Sanders are not the same

one is a rich white asshole who is part of the demographic that has CAUSED the problems and one isn't

[elleng]

8. 'People on both sides are sick of it, sick of fighting for scraps and sick of watching fat

Congressmen do little but play partisan one upmanship when they take breaks from fundraising, only agreeing to bloat the military and cut rich men's taxes.

There's a reason both frontrunners are despised by their respective party kingmakers. There's a reason both are relative outsiders, have few real ties to the Christian crazies, and are playing to the working class instead of the upper middle class.'

[Skittles]

10. I understand that, but

Trump doesn't give a flying fuck about the working class, and people are foolish to think he does

[elleng]

11. True.

[SusanCalvin]

6. And deregulation.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_2012/features/terminal_sickness035756.php?page=all

[elleng]

9. ironically begun by Jimmy Carter.

'While serving as Chairman of the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB), which regulated commercial airline fares, in 1977-1978, Kahn (a self-described "good liberal Democrat&quot [9] oversaw the deregulation of commercial air fares. As one analyst put it, Kahn "set to work with . . . other progressives" including Senator Edward Kennedy, future Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer, and consumer advocate Ralph Nader to "dismantle anti-consumer cartels that had been sustained by government regulation."[9] At the same time the CAB was disbanded, as deregulation of commercial air fares made the agency no longer necessary. This is one of the very few examples of a regulatory agency deregulating itself out of existence.[citation needed]

He has consistently argued that, where feasible, complete deregulation is preferable to partial deregulation. "The verdict of the great majority of economists would, I believe, be that deregulation has been a success –- bearing in mind, as always, the central argument ... that society's choices are always between or among imperfect systems, but that, wherever it seems likely to be effective, even very imperfect competition is preferable to regulation .... Recent experience clearly suggests, instead, that the mixed system may be the worst of both possible worlds."[10]

In an interview with USA Today,[11] he said that he wished that he could have deregulated the telecommunications industry. He has served as an expert witness in many regulatory matters,'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_E._Kahn