Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
64 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Susan Sarandon Talks Bernie Sanders (Original Post) Bubzer Mar 2016 OP
Susan S. demeans Hillary in that speech--while Barbara Streisand-a Hillary support does not riversedge Mar 2016 #1
She does no such thing... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #9
I tried posting on shrooms also greiner3 Mar 2016 #10
She concludes her essay by urging Americans to "stop being afraid" of women", AlbertCat Mar 2016 #11
I've got to say I didn't see it. I'll agree she has before with some of her comments. Amimnoch Mar 2016 #12
You have the interviewer to thank for that. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #22
all you do is run around this board claiming things "vile" and "demeaning" lastone Mar 2016 #25
I went away for a bit to get lunch for riversedge Mar 2016 #38
I appreciate you talking care of your elderly mother lastone Mar 2016 #40
I was trying to constrast riversedge Mar 2016 #48
respectfully lastone Mar 2016 #49
that term is included--I heard it last night. But as riversedge Mar 2016 #50
So your definition of "demeaning" is the same as telling the truth? Weird. nt revbones Mar 2016 #29
That was great! Thanks. nt valerief Mar 2016 #2
Tinfoil Naderite that clearly illustrated the reasons that her 'side' can't win last night. onehandle Mar 2016 #3
"Tinfoil Naderite" Glad you're interested in substance over ad hominem... Bubzer Mar 2016 #16
Great interview with Sarandon. mnhtnbb Mar 2016 #4
I like everything and her opinion and then the part on the word Principles........................ turbinetree Mar 2016 #5
'The status quo isn't working', she's right. Super interview and kudos to Susan appalachiablue Mar 2016 #6
thought it was a very honest discussion tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #7
I think that Chris Hayes was asking questions that gave Sarandon the opportunity 1monster Mar 2016 #24
i imagine hayes has nightmares finding himself in the position of defending the kissinger candidate questionseverything Mar 2016 #34
Very good interview with an extremely intelligent woman in touch with the issues polly7 Mar 2016 #8
I thought Chris Hayes was going to cry when he LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #13
Yeah let's all focus on supporters rather than the candidates... SHRED Mar 2016 #14
She must really Hate herself ,,,,,,sad Cryptoad Mar 2016 #15
That must explain why she looks so happy and healthy... self hate... yeah, must be that... Bubzer Mar 2016 #17
Why? She looked and sounded very confident in herself and her beliefs. 1monster Mar 2016 #27
Who? Hillary? Weird that you have her icon and would say that. nt revbones Mar 2016 #30
WTF are you talking about? lastone Mar 2016 #42
Susan Sarandon Doesn’t Know If She’d Vote For Hillary Over Trump. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #18
Well, it's her vote... not yours. You dont get a say there. Bubzer Mar 2016 #19
You mean like how you Sanders' fanatics were badgering black voters for not voting for him? Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2016 #55
If you have an issue with a Sanders supporter, take it up with them. I am not their keeper. Bubzer Mar 2016 #57
Remember the last exit poll taken at the end of the primary season in June, 2008? DrBulldog Mar 2016 #21
Great, great interview. DrBulldog Mar 2016 #20
The fact that she is even considering supporting Trump makes her full of shit! Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2016 #23
False framing. She doesn't "consider" supporting trump, as you suggest. Bubzer Mar 2016 #26
+1000 stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #28
Cheering on the false framing... unsurprising. Anything to further HRC's bogus narrative eh? Bubzer Mar 2016 #31
Anything for the cause apparently... nt revbones Mar 2016 #32
Looks that way. Bubzer Mar 2016 #44
NO!!!!! I HATE HILLARY CLINTON!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2016 #37
I believe you. Bubzer Mar 2016 #43
I don't give a flying fuck what you believe. Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2016 #54
Yeah ya do...else you'd not have bothered to reply to say just that. Bubzer Mar 2016 #58
umadbro? it's a headline. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #46
LOL... yeah, cause no media outlet ever wrote a title as clickbait to drive readership...right? Bubzer Mar 2016 #60
The fact that she is unsure of whether she will vote for Hillary is in no way 1monster Mar 2016 #33
She said good things about Trump. Again, even bringing up his name means Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2016 #39
We must not have watched the same interview. Where did she say "good 1monster Mar 2016 #41
"She said good things about Trump" - No she didn't. Bubzer Mar 2016 #45
She may not have explicitly said anything nice about Trump... Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2016 #53
I'm sure next time she'll consult you on how to be a "principled liberal"... Bubzer Mar 2016 #59
Wrong. She did not say anything good about Trump. LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #47
I'm listening her ass right now and she said that "she'll think about it...let's see what happens... Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2016 #52
You're apoplectic because she's not immediately coming to heel for hilly? Bubzer Mar 2016 #61
Two things in this interview tiredtoo Mar 2016 #35
I think trump would get impeached faster than anyone else in history. Bubzer Mar 2016 #36
Sarandon's a privileged bird-brain. Metric System Mar 2016 #51
Privileged white girl who would support a racist like Trump. And Bernie fans are defending Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2016 #56
"Privileged white girl" - you mean like Hillary Clinton? Bubzer Mar 2016 #62
Hllary, Susan all the white girls who care nothing about themselves but want to tell Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2016 #63
Oh, so no you're the magical gatekeeper on maturity as well? You're on a roll. Bubzer Mar 2016 #64

riversedge

(70,015 posts)
1. Susan S. demeans Hillary in that speech--while Barbara Streisand-a Hillary support does not
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:17 AM
Mar 2016

mention Sanders in her column. This shows the difference between the two camps. Susan S embarrassed herself last night.


..... Barbra also takes aim at Hillary's Republican rival Donald Trump, calling him the "joke that isn't funny".

She rages: "I notice the press doesn't even call him (Trump) out on his own lies or his refusal to answer questions. If you repeat a lie loudly and long enough, people may come to believe it is true... And what would the press say, for instance, if Hillary Clinton displayed anything like the crassness of Donald Trump in debates? Or his staggering lack of knowledge on foreign or domestic policy?"

She [Barbara Streisand] concludes her essay by urging Americans to "stop being afraid" of women", adding, "Hillary Clinton isn't afraid. It's about time that a woman with strength, experience and compassion leads our already great nation in this time of global insecurity."

http://www.music-news.com/news/UK/96464/Barbra-Streisand-attacks-media-over-Hillary-Clinton-coverage

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
9. She does no such thing...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:09 AM
Mar 2016

Tell me where anything she said relevant to Hillary Clinton's support from those industries was incorrect. It was not.

Project much?

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
11. She concludes her essay by urging Americans to "stop being afraid" of women",
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:25 AM
Mar 2016

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

That's hysterical. People might be afraid of Babs because she's a tyrant to work for, but "Americans"?...afraid of women? Maybe GOP men.... and judging from what they say about women, you have to wonder if they've ever met a woman. It's more like they just ignore them. I don't think a significant number a truly liberal people are "afraid of women".


Celeb endorsements. Whatever.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
12. I've got to say I didn't see it. I'll agree she has before with some of her comments.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:33 AM
Mar 2016

I just watched the video actively looking for the part that was Demeaning to Hillary with the goal of backing you up with an example.. I just couldn't find it.

Some of her points were hyperbolic BS imo, and worthy of debate, but I didn't actually find anything demeaning. Probably the most civilized thing I've seen from her this campaign season.

 

lastone

(588 posts)
25. all you do is run around this board claiming things "vile" and "demeaning"
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

and then vanish off the thread as soon as your bullpucky is called out, why is that? can you now argue merits or are you a paid mud slinger or other such troll?

riversedge

(70,015 posts)
38. I went away for a bit to get lunch for
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016

my 90 yr old mom who is quite fragile


Now I am leaving to take her to a Dr. apt. Have a good day.

 

lastone

(588 posts)
40. I appreciate you talking care of your elderly mother
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016

and hope for nothing but the best for you and her.

upon your return please tell me what is demeaning about the post you've commented on.

riversedge

(70,015 posts)
48. I was trying to constrast
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:58 PM
Mar 2016

a Hillary supporter vs a Sanders supporter (both well know film starts). Susan talked some of BS agenda--but then she started in on a well-rehearsed vile name-caller 'liar, not to be trusted, not authentic"---the 3 biggies I hear from the RW and the many of the Sanders supporters here and elsewhere. They can't just stick with being critical of her agenda items--they have to toss in the vile name-calling.

Meanwhile Barbara S focuses in on some of Hillary's agenda and accomplishments (disses the media also)--she accomplishes her goal without mentioning or hitting on Sanders.

PS--my mom is a challenge- stubborn as an old goat--but I am glad I have this opportunity to help her at this time of her life. Thank you for your nice comments.

 

lastone

(588 posts)
49. respectfully
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:33 PM
Mar 2016

I just re-watched the clip and nowhere does she say what you've outlined, never even said the word "liar" as far as I heard...

personally I was lucky enough to be back home when my dad passed, it was such a gift I really don't have words... then only yesterday one of my good friends was back at his parents house, both of them are not doing well and after a long into the night talk with his father they went to bed and his father passed. another blessing in disguise. life is short, tell the people you love that you love them. I wish you the best.

riversedge

(70,015 posts)
50. that term is included--I heard it last night. But as
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:59 PM
Mar 2016

for the rest of the post---seems like the father of your friend passed on a good note. Thank you and yes--let those you love know that you do. Best.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
3. Tinfoil Naderite that clearly illustrated the reasons that her 'side' can't win last night.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:19 AM
Mar 2016

That interview should be broadcast nationally on the networks.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
5. I like everything and her opinion and then the part on the word Principles........................
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:39 AM
Mar 2016

Honk---------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
6. 'The status quo isn't working', she's right. Super interview and kudos to Susan
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:50 AM
Mar 2016

for her support of Bernie's campaign and years of work with progressive activism.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
7. thought it was a very honest discussion
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:58 AM
Mar 2016

Her answers were straight forward. Especially when Chris Hayes kept making the weak assumption that Trump WILL be the GOP candidate up against the Democrats. No one knows that, and actually there could be a divide in the GOP that creates a multiple-split in the General Election. (A much-less charismatic clown in Ross Perot was an actual challenger, and he didn't have as much of a following as Orange Bob, Square Head does.)

It also made Chris Hayes look a little naive (actually A LOT Naive) to be pushing the idea that Hillary just might be one of those magical-secret-make-a-wish politicians who takes all kinds of political spoils from big donors, won't release transcripts, deletes personal emails, but once they get in office, they go ahead and do the right thing -- this after years of examples of the contrary, including not supporting same-sex marriage, minimum wages, pushing bad trade deals, etc.

Doing the right thing starts with publicly financing your own campaign NOW without SuperPACS -- and definitely without taking hundreds of thousands of dollars PER SPEECH from corporations, big Pharma and Wall Street without being honest enough to release the words you spoke which would show how much you supposedly 'told them off' or expressed Democratic values to their faces. And we won't even get into the 350k per-plate fundraisers. Maybe that barking Hillary would look more respectful if someone was holding a $350k donation check up in the air.

Hillary is as transparent as they come, yet somehow Chris Hayes is wearing his HRC-inscribed rose-tinted glasses when he points his glare at her candidacy. A shame actually, but perhaps I'm too harsh on him and he was just pushing that magical concept because someone up in corporate wrote it down for him. Afterall, a guy's gotta eat.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
24. I think that Chris Hayes was asking questions that gave Sarandon the opportunity
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

to point out that Hillary was NOT likely to turn into what many of us hoped we would get in the last election. We hoped that Obama would be the catalyst for the changes we needed (and yes, oh my, yes! he was hundreds of thousands time better than his predecessor) the 2008 election.

Hillary's record was always to the right of Obama and it seems to have gone farther right since 2008. Many people don't understand that. Hayes gave Sarandon the platform to address those issues and to point out how Bernie is better on the issues, character, and record.

That was good journalism. Remember, Hayes was not asking these questions for his benefit; he was asking for the benefit of the viewers.

questionseverything

(9,644 posts)
34. i imagine hayes has nightmares finding himself in the position of defending the kissinger candidate
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

i remember when all the snowden files were coming out and hayes was a "guest" on odonnels show

odonnel was praising the nsa for decimating the 4th amendment and hayes eyes were clearly in "what the f***" mode

polly7

(20,582 posts)
8. Very good interview with an extremely intelligent woman in touch with the issues
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:00 AM
Mar 2016

that affect so many who are needing a voice.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
13. I thought Chris Hayes was going to cry when he
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:46 AM
Mar 2016

couldn't get Sarandon to acknowledge she'd ultimately vote Hillary if it comes to that. He was doing the full court corporate press, and it wasn't working. Loved it.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
14. Yeah let's all focus on supporters rather than the candidates...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:58 AM
Mar 2016

...and their position they take.

Yeah, let's focus on Hollywood...that's the ticket.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
27. Why? She looked and sounded very confident in herself and her beliefs.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016

She's articulate, well-informed, educated, and practicing what she believes. If that is self-hate, we are indeed in an Orwellian double speak world.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
55. You mean like how you Sanders' fanatics were badgering black voters for not voting for him?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:42 PM
Mar 2016

So fucking transparent.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
57. If you have an issue with a Sanders supporter, take it up with them. I am not their keeper.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:02 PM
Mar 2016

So, your "So fucking transparent" comment is a non sequitur... but by all means, keep painting with that broad indiscriminant brush of yours...let everyone know exactly what to continue to expect from you.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
21. Remember the last exit poll taken at the end of the primary season in June, 2008?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016

FIFTY-FOUR PER CENT of Hillary's supporters said they would NEVER vote for Barach Obama.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
20. Great, great interview.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:38 PM
Mar 2016

Susan really showed her political street smarts to Chris Hayes, who's pretty damn smart himself.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
23. The fact that she is even considering supporting Trump makes her full of shit!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:43 PM
Mar 2016

Anyone who votes for that racist, bigoted fuckface is **NOTHING** to me.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
33. The fact that she is unsure of whether she will vote for Hillary is in no way
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:08 PM
Mar 2016

suggesting that she will support or vote for Trump. The world is not black and white (or in this case black or white). It comes in wonder colors,shades, and tints.

Life is easier in monochrome, but, oh, so much more beautiful in the full spectrum.

http://enchroma.com/

on edit: mistyped Trump when I meant Hillary. Not in any way dissing Hillary. I have had a problem all my life where I will mean to say one name (or other noun) and say another (usually the direct opposite). It is now apparently bleeding over into the typed word. It is some kind of brain dysfunction, I guess.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
39. She said good things about Trump. Again, even bringing up his name means
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

that it is a consideration.

She is dead to me. I hate bigots!

1monster

(11,012 posts)
41. We must not have watched the same interview. Where did she say "good
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016

things about Trump"?

Unless you mean where she said Trump would bring on immediate revolution? In that case, you totally misunderstood the point.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
53. She may not have explicitly said anything nice about Trump...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:39 PM
Mar 2016

...other than the "revolution coming immediately".

There's NO "let's see what happens" or "thinking about it".

When asked, the answer should be FUCK NO! A principled liberal would NEVER support someone like Trump.

I have lost all respect for Susan Sarandon. Even if she can't support Hillary Clinton, she could still write Bernie's name in.

She's disgusting.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
59. I'm sure next time she'll consult you on how to be a "principled liberal"...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:07 PM
Mar 2016

Thank you for letting us all know you're the magical gatekeeper of what does and does not qualify as a "principled liberal"...

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
47. Wrong. She did not say anything good about Trump.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:25 PM
Mar 2016

Possibly not voting for Hillary does not equal an endorsement of Trump.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
52. I'm listening her ass right now and she said that "she'll think about it...let's see what happens...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:38 PM
Mar 2016

There's NO "let's see what happens" or "thinking about it".

When asked, the answer should be FUCK NO! A principled liberal would NEVER support someone like Trump.

I have lost all respect for Susan Sarandon. Even if she can't support Hillary Clinton, she could still write Bernie's name in.

She's disgusting.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
61. You're apoplectic because she's not immediately coming to heel for hilly?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:20 PM
Mar 2016

Where was your outrage when hilly refused to make up her mind on the TPP? Or when she remained "undecided" on the keystone XL pipeline? Where was your outrage when she called young black males super predators? Or when it was discovered she took money from the prison lobby? Or, for that matter, that she's STILL taking money from the prison lobby? Where is your outrage over her attack on poor folks across the nation by supporting the crippling of welfare?

I doubt you had any... so you can keep your phony outrage. You want to talk about principled liberals? You're supporting one of the most unscrupulous so-called democrats I've ever seen. Stop being so damn hypocritical.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
35. Two things in this interview
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

made me think. I paraphrase but, "Trump would bring on immediate revolution." and "This is a once in a lifetime opportunity."

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
36. I think trump would get impeached faster than anyone else in history.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016

I do agree with her that a Bernie presidency is a once in a lifetime opportunity, though.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
56. Privileged white girl who would support a racist like Trump. And Bernie fans are defending
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mar 2016

her for it. Typical.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
62. "Privileged white girl" - you mean like Hillary Clinton?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:25 PM
Mar 2016

What was it you said before? Oh yeah... you're so fucking transparent.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
63. Hllary, Susan all the white girls who care nothing about themselves but want to tell
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:17 AM
Mar 2016

other people how to vote. All of them!

Yes, I am transparent. I don't let none of these assholes off the hook..

Of course, deflection is BS fans' sport. This thread is about Susan Sarandon and her fuckery, and as BSers always do, deflect from the issue at hand because they can't defend their candidate or his bigoted fans who think about voting for Trump if they don't get their ways.

Grow the fuck up.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
64. Oh, so no you're the magical gatekeeper on maturity as well? You're on a roll.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:33 AM
Mar 2016

Maybe you don't know this, but you have a journal... and your recs are tracked. A quick glance through your profile paints a picture of a Hillary supporter... no, I don't buy for a minute that you hold hilly to account for anything.

I've already debunked your phony outrage, and pointed out there's no substance to your complaint. I've already shown a light on your attempt to stir shit up. That you think I'm the one who needs to "grow the fuck up" is laughable at best.

You're right... you are transparent. You're pretending to be outraged... and all you're doing is attacking someone who isn't interested in supporting Hillary. Even better, you say I'm the one deflecting from the issues, while ignoring everything I've cited you have not objected to... remember, your past actions on DU are fairly easy to research. And while you claim "I don't let none of these assholes off the hook..", you are the one on the hook this time... and I'm certainly not letting you off.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Video & Multimedia»Susan Sarandon Talks Bern...