Obama on Clinton: "I can't tell whether she was for it, or against it" - JOIN THE CLUB

[tomm2thumbs]

Senator Clinton on driver's licenses: "It makes a lot of sense. What is the governor supposed to do. He is dealing with a serious problem."

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In October of that year, though, she walked the statement back, saying “I did not say that it should be done, but I certainly recognize why Gov. Spitzer is trying to do it.”

After Spitzer withdrew the plan, Clinton clarified her stance, saying the governor had made the right decision.

“As president, I will not support driver’s licenses for undocumented people and will press for comprehensive immigration reform that deals with all of the issues around illegal immigration including border security and fixing our broken system,” she said in a statement in November 2007.


fast forward to '2015

Clinton came around earlier this year. In April, a spokesperson for her campaign told The Huffington Post that the candidate “supports state policies to provide driver’s licenses to undocumented immigrants.”





http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/eliot-spitzer-hillary-clinton-drivers-licenses-undocumented_us_56325e1be4b00aa54a4d3864

[tomm2thumbs]

1. these are direct questions on policy, people

if she can't answer you on policy, why do you think she'll be doing anything once she gets into a position of power after she already has your vote under her belt?

[lewebley3]

2. Hillary does answer directly: its Sanders that makes promise with out plans

[tomm2thumbs]

3. apparently Obama is wrong and you are right

interesting

[lewebley3]

4. Obama thinks Hilllary should be President: Obama is right about Hillary

[tomm2thumbs]

8. I see you have learned from your candidate

perhaps you want to address the issue of 'not answering a direct question' that was posed in the OP, or is this a learned strategy when there is no good answer ?

[lewebley3]

16. Hillary helped Obama carry out his policy: She did

a great job: Obama said so: and wants her to be Pres

[Metric System]

5. And THEN he made her his Secretary of State. The End. Oh wait, he also wants her as the nominee!

[tomm2thumbs]

6. I guess no one wants to address the issue of lack of 'direct answers' by their candidate

* and anyone who thinks NOT putting Hillary on the ticket as his V.P. wasn't a sign that Obama did not trust her is probably enjoying their 3rd or 4th beer. Secretary of State was a nod to voters who supported her, but if he trusted her, she'd have been the V.P.

or please explain the reason why she was not chosen as his V.P.? I'd love to hear your theories

[Uncle Joe]

10. Hillary's non-definitive answers pretty much requires her supporters to follow suit.

They can't hardly say that Hillary is for illegal immigrants having driver licenses because eventually she may come out against it, the same holds true for them being against drivers licenses because she might come out for it.

It's all an enigma wrapped in a riddle and covered in a cream sauce, it might be delicious if you don't care what you eat.

[tomm2thumbs]

11. "You cannot reason people out of a position which they have not been reasoned into"

I think it finally took the assassination comment by Clinton before the party leaders finally said 'enough is enough' -- and that is saying something that it had to go that far.

I'm still waiting to hear opinions as to why Obama didn't pick Clinton as his V.P. -- I think everyone knows the answer to that, but none of her supporters are willing to admit it.

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that recipe you mention sounds like something a Trump supporter would eat right up!

LOLz

[Uncle Joe]

12. Trump supporters love it because it's delicious!

[Herman4747]

7. FLIP-FLOP, SHE WAS DOING THE BOP...

Hey, whatever it takes to win an election, and if the voters are fooled, well that's just tough luck for them!

[JDPriestly]

14. It's more serious than that. Her thought process is flawed. That's why she takes a stance in the

first place that she regrets later.

You can't do that when you are president.

Bernie has examined himself and his world and arrived at certain basic moral and ethical principles. He decides where he stands by comparing his choices to those principles. Makes making up your mind a lot easier.

She has a flawed thinking process. This is a serious problem with her.

She can easily make wrong decisions and she can easily be swayed. She doesn't know what she thinks about really important things. It isn't constant, but she does not have a firm basis of principles from which she works in life.

That's why she voted for the Iraq War, etc. Those were mistakes due to a flawed thought process.

[Herman4747]

15. Interesting, likely accurate conclusion

"She has a flawed thought process." "She can be easily swayed."

At times I have wondered whether she suffers from premature senility.

Newly released email shows top aide Huma Abedin warned colleagues Hillary was 'often confused' and needed hand-holding about calls with foreign leaders

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3320900/Newly-released-email-shows-aide-Huma-Abedin-warned-colleagues-Hillary-confused-needed-hand-holding-calls-foreign-leaders.html#ixzz44TjwKmhl

[JDPriestly]

17. She was, I am pretty certain, a good student.

She memorized and learned well. But I don't think her reasoning capacity is as strong as Bernie's. He figures things out. It's just a different talent set. I want Bernie's ability to figure things out in the White House.

Bill Clinton was very brilliant. Hillary is smart but not a brilliant thinker. There is just a difference. It's hard to explain. But there is a big difference. I'm sure people will think I am crazy for saying this or that I hate Hillary. It isn't that at all. We are all just different. Bernie is particularly good at figuring out a situation and what is right or wrong in dealing with it. He will of course make mistakes, but he won't be as easily fooled as Hillary.

[azmom]

9. I hate that about her. Shows her weakness.

[JDPriestly]

13. I think Hillary answers in that confused way because she really doesn't think clearly.

I used to have a French professor who pounded this thought into our heads: (in French) If it isn't clear, it isn't French.

I think Hillary's failure to take firm positions and express herself clearly reflects a lack of confidence in her thinking processes, in her ideas.

She may have difficulty making decisions.

I suspect that behind closed doors she takes very firm positions and is not very flexible -- another way to compensate for a problem making decisions.

I know some people who have trouble making up their minds and taking firm stances.

That's Hillary in my view. Maybe people who know her well will disagree with me. Maybe not. But that is a concern.

A president has to be able to make up his or her mind easily. It's a thought process that Bernie has mastered.

I have said this frequently. I think Bernie is firm and clear about his basic moral and ethical principles and makes decisions that arise from those principles. He does that issue after issue. He is a very logical, clear thinker.

That is one of the main reasons I prefer Bernie to Hillary. Bernie is decisive but not overly so. His decisions are based on groundrules and principles that are ethically and morally sound. We see that over and over in his votes and in his ability to explain his votes.