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Arizona Democratic Primary was Unacceptable | Bernie Sanders (Original Post) Donkees Mar 2016 OP
Lets blame Clinton MFM008 Mar 2016 #1
Who blamed Clinton? TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #3
'Unacceptable' or 'cannot be and is not accepted ?' 'Unacceptable' on its own Joe Chi Minh Mar 2016 #2
I don't know where you two are going (above) but it was UNACCEPTABLE AND HEADS SHOULD ROLL YOHABLO Mar 2016 #4
Re-vote is the only fair remedy when that many people are disenfranchised. Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #5

MFM008

(19,804 posts)
1. Lets blame Clinton
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:04 PM
Mar 2016

and not the republican party. In fact lets re-vote in every state and re-vote until Clinton supporters die of exhaustion and Sanders wins.

TIME TO PANIC

(1,894 posts)
3. Who blamed Clinton?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:52 PM
Mar 2016

Why shouldn't there be a revote in Arizona? Is it fair that people have to wait five hours in line to vote? Can't you see how that favors the privileged, and is undemocratic?

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
2. 'Unacceptable' or 'cannot be and is not accepted ?' 'Unacceptable' on its own
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:30 PM
Mar 2016

won't butter the parsnips.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
5. Re-vote is the only fair remedy when that many people are disenfranchised.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:51 PM
Mar 2016

Thousands waited in 4-6 hour lines, in the most populous county in Arizona, and many of those who could endure it and got to the head of the line were then told that they weren't Democrats! Their registration had been CHANGED without their knowledge. There was no same-day remedy. They were handed "provisional" ballots, most of which were not counted. Thousands of votes have NOT been counted. Thousands of people were affected. Many who have children, or jobs they had to get back to, or who were elderly or disabled, had to leave. They never got to vote.

This is not just shocking. This is a major criminal interference with the right to vote. It not only needs to be prosecuted, it needs to be REMEDIED. And the only fair remedy is a re-vote.

The other thing we know about this fraudulent primary in AZ is that most of the same-day voters were Sanders voters. Sanders took 60% of the same-day votes that did get counted (about 15% of the overall vote). Clinton took 60% of the early vote. So this crime mostly hurt one candidate--Sanders. That is yet another reason that a re-vote must occur. If the burden fell equally, or even somewhat equally, you could say it doesn't matter enough for a re-vote. But the fact that it hit one candidate much harder than the other really REQUIRES a re-vote. A significant number of Sanders delegates might be at stake--but even if only one is at stake, a re-vote is required.

Future reform is no remedy for this. Investigation and prosecution is justified but it is not a remedy. Resignations or firings or canceling of contracts (with the PRIVATE companies that run our elections now) are not a remedy. Re-vote (or, alternatively, an extended vote) is the ONLY remedy for the many voters who were disenfranchised on that day.

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