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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:31 PM Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton vs. Greenpeace Activist (3/31/2016)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dC4Pvm6Oj4A


From Greenpeace USA:

Published on Mar 31, 2016
At a Hillary Clinton rally at SUNY Purchase campus today, the presidential candidate lost her patience with a Greenpeace activist who thanked her for her commitment to climate change then asked her whether she'll reject fossil fuel money moving forward. Pointing her finger at activist Eva Resnick-Day, Clinton claimed she only takes money from people who work for fossil fuel companies and called the accusations lies.


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Edit to add, Collection of related links:

DU: Video of Hillary Clinton snapping at environmental questioner goes viral across internet

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dC4Pvm6Oj4A

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/greenpeaceusa/videos/vb.5435784683/10154151449454684/

Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4crwv2/hillary_clinton_loses_patience_with_greenpeace/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/greenpeaceusa/status/715630613651464192
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Hillary Clinton vs. Greenpeace Activist (3/31/2016) (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 OP
Corporations are people, my friend. ish of the hammer Mar 2016 #1
It's refreshing to see her point her finger in a white person's face for a change n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #2
Bernie finger-pointing: Bad! RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #6
Yikes! Imagine if this got the same attention as the Dean Scream... RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #3
I can only imagine nichomachus Mar 2016 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Mar 2016 #55
Nastiness. MsFlorida Mar 2016 #4
You are (choose one, please): RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #9
I Was Called An Alex Jones Supporter billhicks76 Mar 2016 #53
I have compassion for her Equinox Moon Mar 2016 #58
That fits a comment on that video at YouTube.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #66
Finger wagging! Finger wagging! jalan48 Mar 2016 #5
She's sick of the Sanders campaign lying about it ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #7
Greenpeace is the Sanders campaign? dogman Mar 2016 #14
Greenpeace seems to have believed the Sanders campaign ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #19
Well, that means they have more smarts than other 'conservative democrats' found on this site. Scalded Nun Mar 2016 #23
I'm sure the donors were fossil fuel workers. dogman Mar 2016 #29
Yes Only A Conservative Democrat (Whats That Anyway?) Thinks Fossil Fuel CEO's Aren't The Industry billhicks76 Mar 2016 #42
"member of the reality based commity" Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #65
too funny stupidicus Mar 2016 #22
So she doesn't accept money from the fossil fuel industry? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #39
I guess she'll want to discuss what she's 'so sick of' elleng Mar 2016 #8
She'll look into it. RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #12
:-) elleng Mar 2016 #15
Love it! arlington.mass Mar 2016 #67
Will the real Hillary please stand up passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #10
You said it. THAT is the real Hillary Clinton, right there. pangaia Mar 2016 #41
You'd think after working for Obama she'd have learned a little bit about diplomacy. passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #56
I would not think that at all. It is about her, not results. pangaia Mar 2016 #61
That "tone" is soo fucking hot!!!!! I think I'm in love!!!!! desmiller Mar 2016 #11
How "presidential" of her, NOT! peacebird Mar 2016 #13
There are no words. jillan Mar 2016 #16
She doesn't collect money from fossil fuel!!! She has people for that, how dare you claim Dragonfli Mar 2016 #17
They are called "bundlers". Contrary1 Mar 2016 #28
Thanks for the link, it is quite informative /nt Dragonfli Mar 2016 #34
Just Hill telling more to "get in line"! SoapBox Mar 2016 #18
Look at her...so presidential!! dorkzilla Mar 2016 #20
just another for-hire Cryptoad Mar 2016 #21
Go check with Greenpeace for contact information. n/t xocet Mar 2016 #25
It was a Greenpeace activist. Or were you not paying attention. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #26
How is "thank you for your committment to climate change. will you..." rude? jg10003 Mar 2016 #35
But that would not have been the real Clinton. pangaia Mar 2016 #44
Except she would have been lying if she said that. passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #62
Secretary Clinton's State Department apparently tried to support Chevron's overseas fracking efforts xocet Mar 2016 #24
Every Arab Dictatorship Gave Millions To Clinton Foundation billhicks76 Mar 2016 #51
This is why they can't take her anywhere... #ImSoSick trending on Twitter... AzDar Mar 2016 #27
omfg retrowire Mar 2016 #30
Aw, she needs a visit from a little birdie Mike__M Mar 2016 #31
Did anybody do a fact check on that? Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #32
So Rude!!! That's really disgusting. fbc Mar 2016 #33
Centrist Conservative DINO Fake Democrats Alienated Them billhicks76 Mar 2016 #49
Hey, we all get a little cranky now and then. YOHABLO Mar 2016 #36
She has the gall to say 840high Mar 2016 #37
Holy smokes! She looks and sounds terrible. Duval Mar 2016 #38
Tell us more Kall Mar 2016 #40
The worst part of it is that she again lost LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #43
Yeah, not much of a diplomat, is she? nichomachus Mar 2016 #52
Because conservatives love it when Greenpeace hippies get yelled at n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #60
She's no doubt written off the Greenpeace LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #64
She needs to work on her tone. RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #45
Poking your index finger at someone is a type of assault. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #46
"I'm a corporate fascist", in other words... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #47
Clinton vs Common Sense billhicks76 Mar 2016 #48
That was bad. Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #50
Isn't she wonderful! smiley Mar 2016 #57
The FBI interview is looming large aspirant Mar 2016 #59
I really did laugh out loud. Wow, she never expected the truth to go viral. Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #63
This was supposed to be a cake walk and she's sensing a repeat of 08..... raindaddy Mar 2016 #68
She trumps Trump in this video! mhatrw Apr 2016 #69

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
3. Yikes! Imagine if this got the same attention as the Dean Scream...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:41 PM
Mar 2016

Needless to say, that'll never happen.

The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care! ... It's a big club, and you ain't in it.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
54. I can only imagine
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

If the major networks replayed it 600+ times in the next two weeks like they did after they set Howard up.

Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #3)

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
9. You are (choose one, please):
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:48 PM
Mar 2016
a. a misogynist.
b. a BernieBro.
c. a Karl Rove plant.
d. all of the above.


 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
53. I Was Called An Alex Jones Supporter
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:38 PM
Mar 2016

Simply for pointing out well accepted but not widely known ties between the Clinton and Bush families. So tired of these DINOs.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
58. I have compassion for her
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:45 PM
Mar 2016

I am a Bernie supporter with compassion.

Think of what these presidential candidates go through. Day after day... mobs of people. Constant stress from so many angles we can't even imagine. I for one have some days that I have gotten angry with people. Haven't you?

I call for compassion from all of us.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
66. That fits a comment on that video at YouTube....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:05 PM
Mar 2016
She's only doing this because she knows her supporters eat up this victim crap and Sanders is too nice to expose her on it. She won't be this way in the general. She's a snake in the grass with contingency plans to spare. Don't think for a second that there is a "good" outcome of Clinton v Trump.


This video is publish officially by Greenpeace and they know who gets what from who.

She probably thought the questioner was a Sanders supporter but it wasn't.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
7. She's sick of the Sanders campaign lying about it
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

Yup. Nothing more needs to be said.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
19. Greenpeace seems to have believed the Sanders campaign
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:34 PM
Mar 2016

A major mistake.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

dogman

(6,073 posts)
29. I'm sure the donors were fossil fuel workers.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:00 PM
Mar 2016

Starting with the CEOs. all the way down. The industry knows where its bread is buttered.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
42. Yes Only A Conservative Democrat (Whats That Anyway?) Thinks Fossil Fuel CEO's Aren't The Industry
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:31 PM
Mar 2016

Welcome to Orwellian doublespeak.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
22. too funny
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

how do you define "reality"?

the case could be made that she's lying by omission if this "poor me" effort is intended to obscure other inconvenient facts, or "smears" as her most dishonest supporters characterize them

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/07/hillary-clinton-bundlers-fossil-fuel-lobbyists

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
10. Will the real Hillary please stand up
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:49 PM
Mar 2016

She just outed her real self. And the finger pointing. She is just nasty in this clip.

I'm so sick of people thinking a person with so little self control should be our POTUS.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
41. You said it. THAT is the real Hillary Clinton, right there.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:30 PM
Mar 2016

I can just imagine, or actually I can't imagine, went down years ago.. what kind of deal she demanded from Bill.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
56. You'd think after working for Obama she'd have learned a little bit about diplomacy.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:40 PM
Mar 2016

Nope, she is reverting to her true colors under stress.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
61. I would not think that at all. It is about her, not results.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:54 PM
Mar 2016

The results, for the most part, don't matter.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
17. She doesn't collect money from fossil fuel!!! She has people for that, how dare you claim
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

She would perform the menial tasks that she has her servants in place to handle for her! She only does the personal stuff when only her personal royal voice will do, to promote fracking across the world for instance. But to expect her to actually touch or cash checks given her that may have been handled by God knows how many actual filthy peasant hands along the way at some point?

What a fucking insult! You Greenpeace, or Environmentalist, or Bernie people or whatever type commoner you are (they all look the same to her highness) That is far beneath her and her people handle it for her highness as it should be! Usually people in her PACs, or during her "royal spoken word tours", her tour servant people cash the checks for her and place the funds directly in her personal account, but never does she sully her hands herself! What do you think she is? A commoner or something?

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
26. It was a Greenpeace activist. Or were you not paying attention.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:55 PM
Mar 2016

Clearly she is exasperated, but reacting the way she did was an unfortunate lapse.

jg10003

(975 posts)
35. How is "thank you for your committment to climate change. will you..." rude?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

The woman asked a question that is obviously important to her. Clinton could have said "As you pointed out I am committed to dealing with climate change and it is not true that I have accepted money from the fossil fuel industry." And Clinton could have said that without yelling at the woman and sticking her finger in her face.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
24. Secretary Clinton's State Department apparently tried to support Chevron's overseas fracking efforts
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:50 PM
Mar 2016

with diplomatic interventions:


How Hillary Clinton's State Department Sold Fracking to the World
A trove of secret documents details the US government's global push for shale gas.
By Mariah Blake | September/October 2014 Issue


One icy morning in February 2012, Hillary Clinton's plane touched down in the Bulgarian capital, Sofia, which was just digging out from a fierce blizzard. Wrapped in a thick coat, the secretary of state descended the stairs to the snow-covered tarmac, where she and her aides piled into a motorcade bound for the presidential palace. That afternoon, they huddled with Bulgarian leaders, including Prime Minister Boyko Borissov, discussing everything from Syria's bloody civil war to their joint search for loose nukes. But the focus of the talks was fracking. The previous year, Bulgaria had signed a five-year, $68 million deal, granting US oil giant Chevron millions of acres in shale gas concessions. Bulgarians were outraged. Shortly before Clinton arrived, tens of thousands of protesters poured into the streets carrying placards that read "Stop fracking with our water" and "Chevron go home." Bulgaria's parliament responded by voting overwhelmingly for a fracking moratorium.

Clinton urged Bulgarian officials to give fracking another chance. According to Borissov, she agreed to help fly in the "best specialists on these new technologies to present the benefits to the Bulgarian people." But resistance only grew. The following month in neighboring Romania, thousands of people gathered to protest another Chevron fracking project, and Romania's parliament began weighing its own shale gas moratorium. Again Clinton intervened, dispatching her special envoy for energy in Eurasia, Richard Morningstar, to push back against the fracking bans. The State Depart­ment's lobbying effort culminated in late May 2012, when Morningstar held a series of meetings on fracking with top Bulgarian and Romanian officials. He also touted the technology in an interview on Bulgarian national radio, saying it could lead to a fivefold drop in the price of natural gas. A few weeks later, Romania's parliament voted down its proposed fracking ban and Bulgaria's eased its moratorium.

The episode sheds light on a crucial but little-known dimension of Clinton's diplomatic legacy. Under her leadership, the State Department worked closely with energy companies to spread fracking around the globe—part of a broader push to fight climate change, boost global energy supply, and undercut the power of adversaries such as Russia that use their energy resources as a cudgel. But environmental groups fear that exporting fracking, which has been linked to drinking-water contamination and earthquakes at home, could wreak havoc in countries with scant environmental regulation. And according to interviews, diplomatic cables, and other documents obtained by Mother Jones, American officials—some with deep ties to industry—also helped US firms clinch potentially lucrative shale concessions overseas, raising troubling questions about whose interests the program actually serves.

Geologists have long known that there were huge quantities of natural gas locked in shale rock. But tapping it wasn't economically viable until the late 1990s, when a Texas wildcatter named George Mitchell hit on a novel extraction method that involved drilling wells sideways from the initial borehole, then blasting them full of water, chemicals, and sand to break up the shale—a variation of a technique known as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking. Besides dislodging a bounty of natural gas, Mitchell's breakthrough ignited an energy revolution. Between 2006 and 2008, domestic gas reserves jumped 35 percent. The United States later vaulted past Russia to become the world's largest natural gas producer. As a result, prices dropped to record lows, and America began to wean itself from coal, along with oil and gas imports, which lessened its dependence on the Middle East. The surging global gas supply also helped shrink Russia's economic clout: Profits for Russia's state-owned gas company, Gazprom, plummeted by more than 60 percent between 2008 and 2009 alone.

...

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron


Of course, Sec. Clinton is really quite progressive and pro-environment. (The sarcasm should be evident.)
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
51. Every Arab Dictatorship Gave Millions To Clinton Foundation
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:37 PM
Mar 2016

Payoffs for weapons sales. She must think we are all as stupid as republicans.

Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
31. Aw, she needs a visit from a little birdie
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:08 PM
Mar 2016

to cheer her up.

Or maybe somebody who'll hug a thousand of her cheerful supporters.

Or some kind of uplifting visual.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
33. So Rude!!! That's really disgusting.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:17 PM
Mar 2016

I used to think the democratic party was a Greenpeace ally. I guess they just don't have the money to compete with the fossil fuel industry for the democratic party's affections any longer.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
49. Centrist Conservative DINO Fake Democrats Alienated Them
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:35 PM
Mar 2016

When you lose a moderate organization like GreenPeace then you have major problems.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
38. Holy smokes! She looks and sounds terrible.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:24 PM
Mar 2016

Man, if she pointed that finger at me, and raised her voice while doing it, I'd be hard pressed not to slap the shit out of her. I just saw this on MSNBC. My poor vocal chords!

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
43. The worst part of it is that she again lost
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:31 PM
Mar 2016

her cool and pointed her finger at a person in the crowd who did nothing but ask a simple question. Hillary knows she's on camera. She's been around long enough to know that this moment will live on. Why in the world would she let the questioner get under her skin that way? Why not smile, give a non answer, and move on? Maybe she thought she was looking tough and no nonsense, when, in fact, she came across as an angry woman who didn't know enough to reign it in.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
64. She's no doubt written off the Greenpeace
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:58 PM
Mar 2016

vote anyway, but it's a safe bet that there are many people of all political stripes who do not enjoy being the recipient of an angry finger wagging and don't particularly admire those who are quick to resort to it.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
45. She needs to work on her tone.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:32 PM
Mar 2016

That's so Chicago of her. Bernie is acting more like a senator, and future president.
Such a bad tone, and bad manners to point at someone like that!

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
59. The FBI interview is looming large
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:46 PM
Mar 2016

She needs anger therapy now, just think what will happen if she blows up during the FBI interrogation.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
63. I really did laugh out loud. Wow, she never expected the truth to go viral.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:57 PM
Mar 2016

She thought she had it all bagged up--the Corrupt Media, the bought-and-paid for endorsers, control of the DNC and its corporate money and its chair, Clinton-stacked primaries, plenty of big bucks to hit on the early voters before they knew the name Sanders (that minor annoyance), every evil global corporation on her side (drooling over TPP), a juicy foil in Donald Trump, neo-con advisers on board for whatever wars the MIC profiteers may need--Henry Kissinger, Robert (PNAC) Kagan (I kid you not)--the MIC in the bag, the prison MIC in the bag, Wall Street in the bag, the banksters in the bag, maybe President Obama in the bag (iffy, I think--hard man to read), and then...

Sanders isn't so minor any more...

and then...

People start hearing Sanders in stunned amazement at the truths he is telling them...

and then...

and the truth starts to go viral.

The thing Sanders has done is to FREE the truth from its jail. He doesn't need to say it all. He merely needed to start saying some simple truths that the American people almost NEVER hear from politicians or public office holders, like our political system is corrupt, like, why is the middle class disappearing in the richest country in the world?

Simple, obvious truths and the floodgates hiding the truth from the American people start opening. And people--in this case, some people from Greenpeace--start asking hard questions of politicians like Clinton who are thriving in the corporate oligarchy that has taken over our country, who are thriving on big bucks from the very industries that are killing our planet.

She was right, in a way, to blame Bernie Sanders. He opened the way to truth telling. He's given the truth a platform to stand on.

I have to credit the "Occupy" movement, too, and the anti-WTO protests that preceded it. But those people were just "riff-raff" and "peons" and "sore loser hippies" who got shut down by the police and written off as nothing seriously threatening to the uber-rich. Sanders, on the other hand, is running a highly successful grass roots campaign for president of the United States, and, though he endures massive black-holing by the Corrupt Media, his message IS getting through and voters are giving him spectacular victories, of 70% and 80% of the votes, in recent primaries.

Sanders has taken the massive discontent in the country and turned it into a campaign for reform the first premise of which is telling the truth.

The truth hit Clinton hard today. She handled it very badly. It's not very "presidential" to bristle at "the Sanders campaign" for a Greenpeace question about the fossil fuel industry funding her campaign.

But she is correct that Sanders is the "enemy" for helping the truth get out there--for inspiring people to ask such questions. It surprises me not at all that it made her angry. It did surprise me that she let it show. That's why I laughed--not because it's funny. It really isn't. It's a very, very serious matter--our melting planet. But because she lost her composure. Didn't expect her to get so rattled. Bad sign for her campaign.


raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
68. This was supposed to be a cake walk and she's sensing a repeat of 08.....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:05 PM
Mar 2016

If she could just get Bernie to tone it down..

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