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Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:36 PM

Wanna know how we already know that Bernie will win in California on Tuesday?

I love this video! Thanks to the guy who posted it!


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Reply Wanna know how we already know that Bernie will win in California on Tuesday? (Original post)
leftcoastmountains Jun 2016 OP
beachbum bob Jun 2016 #1
kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #3
SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #9
kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #11
Enthusiast Jun 2016 #18
roguevalley Jun 2016 #37
Name removed Jun 2016 #47
SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #48
Name removed Jun 2016 #49
Nitram Jun 2016 #72
Thespian2 Jun 2016 #53
Name removed Jun 2016 #55
Thespian2 Jun 2016 #59
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bkkyosemite Jun 2016 #51
HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #79
passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #19
Nitram Jun 2016 #73
passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #78
Mesee Jun 2016 #24
metroins Jun 2016 #27
Lucky Luciano Jun 2016 #29
metroins Jun 2016 #30
bkkyosemite Jun 2016 #52
metroins Jun 2016 #56
larkrake Jun 2016 #77
metroins Jun 2016 #82
SheilaT Jun 2016 #83
larkrake Jun 2016 #86
metroins Jun 2016 #87
passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #81
Nitram Jun 2016 #74
caraher Jun 2016 #33
metroins Jun 2016 #36
upaloopa Jun 2016 #58
LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #62
Nitram Jun 2016 #75
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OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #93
PotatoChip Jun 2016 #2
yuiyoshida Jun 2016 #4
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yuiyoshida Jun 2016 #63
litlbilly Jun 2016 #13
yuiyoshida Jun 2016 #64
litlbilly Jun 2016 #67
litlbilly Jun 2016 #68
Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #38
Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2016 #5
MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #6
zentrum Jun 2016 #7
stopbush Jun 2016 #10
7962 Jun 2016 #16
stopbush Jun 2016 #20
Amimnoch Jun 2016 #28
Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2016 #12
Duval Jun 2016 #14
valerief Jun 2016 #15
ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2016 #23
Fuddnik Jun 2016 #32
ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2016 #61
Enthusiast Jun 2016 #17
stopbush Jun 2016 #96
GoneFishin Jun 2016 #21
Fast Walker 52 Jun 2016 #39
Hulk Jun 2016 #22
bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #25
mac56 Jun 2016 #34
bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #43
Norman Conch Quest Jun 2016 #44
mac56 Jun 2016 #50
geardaddy Jun 2016 #80
Bucky Jun 2016 #66
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humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #42
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miyazaki Jun 2016 #45
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jamese777 Jun 2016 #76
FairWinds Jun 2016 #71
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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:37 PM

1. Doesn't matter...Hillary has won...

 

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:48 PM

3. Awww....

That's quaint.

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Response to kayakjohnny (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:13 PM

9. Hillary will have enough delegates

to secure the nomination before the polls close in California. That is called reality - you may choose to disregard it.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:24 PM

11. OK then.

We'll just go with that.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:38 PM

18. It's called nonsense.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:51 PM

37. no she won't but have a nice day.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #47)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:21 PM

48. Reality has a Clinton bias

You say the Supers haven't voted yet. They have declared how they intend to vote. The hysteria that hits this board for two days when one super delegate switches to Sanders shows how rare that is.

Reality: They have already told you how they are going to vote !

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #48)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:07 PM

72. It is ironic that Bernie can only win with Super Delegates.

If there were no super delegates he would already have lost. Weren't the Bernie crowd, like, against the idea of super delegates? And now?

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Response to Name removed (Reply #47)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:06 PM

53. Put a + on your remarks...

your explanation is quite compelling...

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Response to Name removed (Reply #55)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:58 PM

59. +...Supports the message, means plus 2

or make the number as large as you want...

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:01 PM

51. Disregard yes indeed

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:28 PM

79. No need for Hillarians to bother voting then.

 

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:42 PM

19. You're such a downer

I bet you're fun at parties.

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Response to passiveporcupine (Reply #19)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:08 PM

73. Funny that a Bernie supporter would allude to being fun at parties.

Nothing more boring than a born-again Bernista.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #73)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:26 PM

78. We always have fun when we get together

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:05 PM

24. Hillary won

You are 100% right. Hillary will be the winner with Super Delegates before any primary. Massive election fraud and voter suppression In Brooklyn, NY 90,000 Democrats were not allowed to vote. Only on local media has it been reported. Under investigation to this day. I F YOU CALL THIS WINNING COUNT ME OUT.

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Response to Mesee (Reply #24)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:20 PM

27. Give them to him

Every election fraud that you think happened, give it to Bernie.

He still loses.

He lost in the beginning due to incompetent campaign management by disregarding the southern high delegate states. Hillary won them by such high margins and we use proportional delegates.

So give him every thing you want to claim that happened, Bernie still loses because of incompetence.

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Response to metroins (Reply #27)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:32 PM

29. Incompetence my ass - you hill people thought he wouldn't take a single state. nt

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #29)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:36 PM

30. It was an incompetent strategy

For winning a proportional race.

Ignoring high delegate southern states and focusing on low delegate northern states is incompetence.

I'm not sure who chose the strategy, but I wouldn't hire them again.

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Response to metroins (Reply #30)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:02 PM

52. Her husband was Gov of a Southern State........give me a break....he hadn't yet started

to get known.....RED STATES

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Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #52)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:30 PM

56. Campaigned for 10 months

National debates.

He had 10 months to mount a campaign in the high delegate southern states, his campaign ignored them. They chose to go after low delegate states.

It was an incompetent strategy. Obama beat Hillary in 2008 and nobody knew him, she isn't unbeatable.

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Response to metroins (Reply #56)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:17 PM

77. he had no money or name recognition

 

He sure got it really fast tho

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Response to larkrake (Reply #77)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:30 PM

82. Not in the right spots

Bernies been a career politician for 30ish years, if he was planning to run for president you'd think he could've done something to get name recognition earlier.

Bernie lost in early March, there's no two ways about it.

It was an incompetent strategy, Obama (2008) was at a bigger disadvantage than Bernie because he'd spent less time in office. The difference is, Obama had proper leadership and management skills along with a winning strategy.

Hillary learned from Obama, focused on high delegate states and spent almost no money in states that don't matter.

This cannot be spun, Bernies campaign made a fatal flaw by choosing an incompetent strategy.

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Response to metroins (Reply #82)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:41 PM

83. He wasn't planning to run for President

 

much more than a year ago. Let alone eight or ten years ago.

He went from almost zero name recognition, to keeping Hillary from clinching the nomination months ago, as we were all told would happen.

Think a bit longer about who incredibly incompetent she must be to go from being ahead by 60 points or more, to just barely getting enough delegates -- and ONLY if the unpledged Super delegates are included --- on the last day of the primary season. Well, DC does vote next week, but they really won't count.

Plus, there's still the entire thing with the cute little home server she had, and all those emails. Were I a Republican operative of any kind, and wanted to destroy Hillary and totally screw over the Democratic Party, I'd make sure that the most damaging information connected to that gets held back until about September. Which is exactly what this delay in the entire FBI investigation feels like: delaying and delaying until the party is stuck with her, then pulling the rug out.

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Response to metroins (Reply #82)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:49 PM

86. he never planned to be president

 

seeing the corruption accellerate within the party is what motivated him. Hillbots credit him with ambition. If he had ever been ambitious, he would not have been an Indy.

Obama wanted to be President, he is an ambitious politition, Bernie never was ambitious- he is concerned. He is not "me", he is "we", in other terms, he is a democratic socialist. He has said this since he ran for mayor and has proven truthful. He has never put himself first and never will.

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Response to larkrake (Reply #86)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:13 PM

87. Lol.

I'm sorry but no.

The previous poster has some merit, but your post has none. He is ambitious, it is not "we" but it is "he" with him.

Look into his past dealings, you'll find plenty of fodder for the cannon, look into Jane's past, look into family making money off his campaigns and the ridiculous spending this campaign went to Devine et al. The Italy trip funded by campaign. There's dirt to be found.

The primaries are over, so there's no reason to bring up negative statements, you can Google them if you want to really see he's not that pure. Not Pure At all.

I know Hillarys negatives, you should have learned about your candidates.

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Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #52)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:28 PM

81. Not only that I was told by a person of color here

that they had no reason to take the time to get to know him. They were happy with Clinton. So they didn't even care or pay attention to his ads (and he did run ads).

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #29)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:09 PM

74. True, you should feel happy at how well Bernie did.

Good job, guys!

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Response to metroins (Reply #27)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:41 PM

33. If this is truly the reason he loses...

This sounds like a concession that Sanders' ideas are superior and/or more in tune with the people, if you explain his trailing Clinton not to being the lesser candidate but by an appeal to "incompetent campaign management."

Rarely do I see serious arguments that Clinton has the better ideas or would be a better president - it's just "face it, your guy lost" in a system tailor-made to deliver the nomination to Hillary. It would be nice to see a more positive message about Hillary rather than a horserace-level critique of the Sanders campaign.

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Response to caraher (Reply #33)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:45 PM

36. Apples and Oranges

I'm eating an apple but you keep asking me how come I don't have to peel the skin off.

Apples and Oranges.

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Response to caraher (Reply #33)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:52 PM

58. Every time we posted a positive OP about Hillary it got hijacked by Bernie's 80% majority

on this board.

In the beginning Bernie's campaign stared out delusional and it is ending the same way.

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Response to caraher (Reply #33)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:51 AM

62. So true

I've asked the same thing and gotten "I've explained plenty of times already in other threads I don't need to do it again.." or just ignored.

It can't be that difficult. I'll help them:

She would break the ultimate glass ceiling!
She has more experience at high level positions ie..State Department
She has a tougher position on gun manufacturers
She has a great partner who's been there before and we'd get two for one
She's been assailed mercilessly for years and deserves to show them all what's what!
okay I threw that last one in.

There are some legitimate reasons.
Its just that there is nothing in her platform that excites a Bernie supporter. Bernie's talking about some very real fundamental changes in the Democratic Party and also push hard for other social benefits for the whole country that are already passe in most countries. Work on election finance reform. Appointing a justice so that Citizens United can be defeated. I'm not positive Hillary is a huge foe of Citizens United.

And no, Bernie Sanders as President would probably not fulfill all his campaign suggestions. but he may a few of them. And he would open the conversation on the other issues he has raised. He would not be as shy of the bully pulpit as his predecessor seemed to be. In short he would move the country forward progressively into the future in a noticeable way.
Hillary Clinton would represent the status quo. And maybe even more hawkish than Obama. Her ties to the corporate elites financially is troubling. But yes, she definitely does have some positives.

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Response to caraher (Reply #33)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:11 PM

75. OK, you're right. Bernie's ideas are better and he's more in tune with everybody except

the primary delegates and the people who elected them. You've heard tons of serious arguments, but you won't even listen to them because you know better.

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Response to caraher (Reply #33)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:42 PM

84. I remember when Obama talked about Sarah Palin...

He pointed out that as Alaska governor her budget was a small percentage of what he was managing running his presidential campaign (in 2008).

I point this out for a reason: if a candidate has great ideas, but doesn't have the management skills to see their ideas through, it's not much better than 'no ideas'.

If Sanders can't run a campaign competently, how can he be expected to competently run the executive branch of the federal government. An acknowledgment that he had "incompetent campaign management" is, in my opinion, as damning as admitting that he has good ideas, but he wouldn't be a good president.

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Response to Mesee (Reply #24)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:36 PM

31. Hillary will have a majority of pledged delegates and raw votes...

not that BSers give a DAMN what the people want.

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Response to Mesee (Reply #24)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:19 PM

41. Ok, you're out

She still won.

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:50 PM

70. I can't wait until the g.e.

when the republicans pull the same voter suppression tactics against $Hillary.

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:43 PM

93. won what? It's not over.

 

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:45 PM

2. Awesome! This needs to go viral!!! (nt)

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:50 PM

4. K&R

TWEETED


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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:12 PM

8. Yay yuiyoshida! Many thanks for tweeting this out.

I read twitter frequently, but don't have an account with them.

How is it looking for Bernie in the Bay Area? Does he seem to have a lot of support there?

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Response to PotatoChip (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:28 AM

63. signs every where

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:27 PM

13. very serious talent right there:)

 

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #13)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:29 AM

64. not bad for a bunch of teenagers...

why are all our rockers old men??

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #64)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:47 AM

67. Not bad for anybody:)

 

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #67)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:48 AM

68. and yes, im an old rocker from the 70s, made a living for over 30 years...

 

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:54 PM

38. ...

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:02 PM

5. That bearded guy in the foreground

is a dead ringer for my oldest son. Except he's in NYC and already voted.

K&R

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:11 PM

7. Really nice. Thanks for posting.

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:23 PM

10. Knowing Sanders will win CA is just as realistic

as knowing god exists.

As in, not.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:33 PM

16. Oh, look everyone, someone who KNOWS God doesnt exist!

 

How hip!

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Response to 7962 (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:46 PM

20. Oh, look everyone, a person who knows Sanders will win

CA.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #20)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:21 PM

28. Heh, especially based on about 10% honking on a busy highway.

For the volume of trafic seen in that video it sure wasn't that much honking.

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:24 PM

12. Just realized

I still love the sound of a trucker's horn.

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:27 PM

14. Awww, that was great.

 

Thanks for posting.


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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:29 PM

15. Yeah, but they're only the people. People don't matter in the U.S. anymore. nt

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Response to valerief (Reply #15)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:56 PM

23. A ***MINORITY*** of the people. A **SMALL MINORITY** at that.

Fixed that for you.

Stop trying to delegitimize the actual democratically elected winner with the most votes. It smacks of childishness and petulance.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

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Response to ConservativeDemocrat (Reply #23)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:39 PM

32. ? Noise hurting your ears?

rofl: :

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #32)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:51 AM

61. Nope. Hillary absolutely CRUSHED Bernie in today's primary



- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:36 PM

17. K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations.

I love these people to death!

If Bernie doesn't win California something is afoot.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:05 PM

96. Yes, something was afoot: MORE PEOPLE VOTED FOR HILLARY!

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:47 PM

21. You obviously have not been schooled in the latest political theory by Hillary supporters that

the more numerous and enthusiastic your supporters are the fewer votes you will receive.

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Response to GoneFishin (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:01 PM

39. Haha, exactly!

 

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:55 PM

22. There is no denying that Bernie has the energy

Hillary's going to be just another corporate politician.

how boring.

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:11 PM

25. Most of those honking are Trump supporters

thinking they can win the battle cry game of

"Socialist!"

"Oligarch!"

because the American people are to dumb to understand the latter

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:43 PM

34. And you know this how?

De-nial.

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Response to mac56 (Reply #34)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:36 PM

43. Because you don't?

I actually couldn't care one way or the other, I'm just anti-Trump

and threw out the idea as speculation

It is possible some are Trump supporters, or simply California celebrity celebrants

Or not

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Response to mac56 (Reply #34)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:37 PM

44. Same Way the OP "Knows" Bernie is Gonna Win

 

Sorry, but you walked right into that one!

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Response to Norman Conch Quest (Reply #44)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:56 PM

50. You've been a member since yesterday.

Here's hoping my ignore list is your first.

You never forget your first.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #25)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:39 AM

66. Ha ha --- you wrote "people are to dumb"

Get a Brain! Morans!!

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:20 PM

26. K & R. Love it, righteous & inspiring! Thanks. Go Bernie & Golden State California!



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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:43 PM

35. Is it because

 

even if he loses, his supporters will call it a "win"? Or say that Hillary MUST have cheated, because everyone THEY know voted for Sanders? Or that the Democratic vote was suppressed, but magically only for Sanders voters? Or because people who go to rallies and cheer loud must necessarily turn out in greater numbers on election day than those who don't?

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:07 PM

40. I'm sure I saw a thumbs up

by the guy on the bike.

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:30 PM

42. Can we all be real here

You cannot count the Super Delegates until the convention floor votes..... therefore Hillary cannot win until the Convention enough of this talk about people that will supposedly just vote for her because they like her....

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Response to humbled_opinion (Reply #42)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:47 PM

85. If we're being real, we should note that ever since 1984 when super delegates

were first introduced, the Associated Press and the rest of the media has called the Presidential race as soon as a candidate has reached a majority of pledged and super delegates (which the AP determines by contacting them -- not by waiting till the convention.)

Yes, hundreds of supers technically could change their minds, in which case the media would report this as a huge story, without any precedent in electoral history.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #85)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:38 PM

88. While your on the precedent subject

when was the last time a nominee was under investigation by the FBI ?

She sure is setting precedents, she got that covered.

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Response to humbled_opinion (Reply #88)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:58 PM

89. The FBI has never said she is a target of the investigation. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #89)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:02 PM

90. Seriously then what is the

FBI doing? Why are her aides and soon her being called in for interviews? I am sure she wants this primary over before she actually makes news getting called in by the FBI but it is going to happen and it is an investigation.... it is dangerous for people not to recognize that or not to even care..

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Response to humbled_opinion (Reply #90)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:10 PM

91. The FBI has said they were checking the security of her system.

That doesn't mean she became a target of the investigation. She could have but there is no evidence that she did, and the FBI hasn't said that she did. And no grand jury has been brought in to hear any witnesses.

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:41 PM

45. If he already won guess I don't need to vote then.





-kidding

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:48 PM

46. K&R

That was so fun! I wonder how long they stayed out there? I hope that's going on all over California!

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:08 PM

54. K&R!

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:43 PM

57. He's the only one of all the candidates

past and present, to inspire millions of people to come out for him, march for him, invited to the Vatican as a world leader, and the list goes on. There's a reason for that for those who can see it. Go Bernie GO! Thank you for the video, you can feel the love

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Response to findrskeep (Reply #57)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:23 PM

92. He was not invited to the Vatican as a world leader.

He had a campaign advisor who was leading a religious conference at Vatican City get him an invitation to the conference, not a meeting with the Pope. Then he stalked the Pope for a handshake, waiting in the wee hours of the morning in the hallway of the Pope's apartment. The Pope obliged him as a "courtesy" but refused pictures. The whole thing was an embarrassing episode for his campaign and backfired as an attempt to pander for the Catholic vote.

Now the FEC wants to know why Sanders' campaign paid for 10 of Sanders' relatives to tag along for the Roman Holiday, where the cost of the chartered Boeing 767 alone topped $600,000. Ask Virginia's ex-governor, Bob O'Donnell, how that story ends.

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:37 AM

65. Clinton worries me so much, such a bad campaigner, so weighted down w/GOP lies

I'd love to see Bernie nominated, but I don't see how that would happen short of a Clinton indictment. And if we are going to be straddled with Hillary, I'd much prefer to see her come in with a win in California.

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Response to Bucky (Reply #65)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:16 PM

76. Obama lost California...

to Clinton in 2008. It turned out to not matter at all in the grand scheme of things. Obama beat McCain by 10 million votes.

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:00 PM

71. If Hilary has already won, then I am sure she won't mind . .

 

releasing those TPP (and other) emails that were sent when

she was on OUR payroll, and which belong to US.

What is she afraid of?

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:49 PM

94. Well hell, if ten people holding signs over a CA freeway isn't proof I don't know what is

This Californian is planning to vote Bernie tomorrow. But I'm a Bernie fan that actually doesn't hate Hillary and will have no problem supporting her in the general election. I'm also a Bernie fan that can see that she's pretty much won this thing barring some miracle. I'm also a Bernie fan that says it's time for fellow Bernie fans to stop deluding themselves.

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Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:03 PM

95. How'd that election work out fer ya, Capt Video?

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