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Thom Hartmann : It Is Time To Repeal The Second Amendment (Original Post) liberalnarb Jun 2016 OP
Nope. But sure is time to understand the basics of it, like "well regulated militia". tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
Yes, but in DC v. Heller . . . markpkessinger Jun 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #2
How hard could it be? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #3
Well, that's an issue that would keep Arizona from going blue this time (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #4
Yes, thank you Thom passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #5
Yes it is! mwrguy Jun 2016 #6
Repeal is unnecessary. Simply a return to the original intent. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #7
But the Roberts Court refuses to do that . . . markpkessinger Jun 2016 #11
With a Congress that, thanks to the Citizens United decision, guillaumeb Jun 2016 #14
Once again, the "simple" solution is not the right one... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #8
But the Court refused to strike such a "balance" . . . markpkessinger Jun 2016 #9
The current court just let stand... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #12
Surprise; it can actually be repealed; it's not written in Stone from the Heavens zebonaut Jun 2016 #13
 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
1. Nope. But sure is time to understand the basics of it, like "well regulated militia".
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 05:53 PM
Jun 2016

Over the years, the courts have ruled time and time again that limits can be put on gun ownership.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
10. Yes, but in DC v. Heller . . .
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 10:04 PM
Jun 2016

. . . the majority effectively discounted the "well-regulated militia" clause, affirming a nearly unfettered individual right to own guns, and even handguns. So where does that leave us?

Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
5. Yes, thank you Thom
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jun 2016

I've been saying this for weeks and I am so glad to hear someone back me up.

I didn't know the history (thanks for providing that)...just that it's usefulness is over and it serves no purpose now except to let people keep guns they don't need.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. Repeal is unnecessary. Simply a return to the original intent.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 07:16 PM
Jun 2016

A return to the meaning that the SCOTUS recognized until the Robert's SCOTUS bit of judicial fiat.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
14. With a Congress that, thanks to the Citizens United decision,
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jun 2016

can be bought by the NRA. And an activist SCOTUS that in the Heller v DC decision decided to reinterpret the Second Amendment to reflect Justice Scalia's peculiar version of what he called original intent. And to arrive at his version of intent, one must dismiss the first half of the Second Amendment as "merely prefatory".

But this bit of judicial legislating could be undone by the next full Court.

The amending process could take years, and it also depends on convincing a majority of state legislatures to ratify.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
8. Once again, the "simple" solution is not the right one...
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 08:15 PM
Jun 2016

A balance should be struck via Supreme Court interpretation of the meaning of the Amendment.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
9. But the Court refused to strike such a "balance" . . .
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jun 2016

. . . when it had the chance to do so in DC v. Heller, so where does that leave us? The Court can't act unless and until a relevant case wends it way through the appeals process, and even then only if it chooses to hear it.

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