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Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 07:49 AM Jul 2016

Black man shot in Florida yesterday with hands up, lying down, no weapon

Video shows therapist moments before he was wounded by police marksman while trying to get his autistic patient to comply with officers



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/21/florida-police-shoot-black-man-lying-down-with-arms-in-air
An autistic man’s therapist was shot and wounded by police [sniper] in Florida while lying on the street with his hands in the air.

Charles Kinsey, who works with people with disabilities, was trying to get his 27-year-old patient back to a facility from where he wandered, North Miami assistant police chief Neal Cuevas told the Miami Herald.

Cuevas said police – who were responding to reports of a man threatening to shoot himself – ordered Kinsey and the patient, who was sitting in the street playing with a toy truck, to lie on the ground.

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This must stop!!!
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Black man shot in Florida yesterday with hands up, lying down, no weapon (Original Post) Equinox Moon Jul 2016 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #1
How much worse will this get if trump becomes President? zebonaut Jul 2016 #2
Maybe, but Urchin Jul 2016 #4
Most law enforcement policy is determined on the local level. Chakab Jul 2016 #6
With too many cops the automatic response is to just shoot people of color brush Jul 2016 #3
This is attempted murder. zentrum Jul 2016 #5
Binoculars? Do the FUCKING POLICE KNOW how to use binoculars??????????? vkkv Jul 2016 #7
I don't thnk so. I thnk they look at people doing things (or not, as the case may be), Joe Chi Minh Jul 2016 #9
Well, that was just asking for trouble. Surely he was aware Joe Chi Minh Jul 2016 #8

Response to Equinox Moon (Original post)

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
6. Most law enforcement policy is determined on the local level.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:20 AM
Jul 2016

There is a standard of gross misconduct related to the deprivation of civil rights required for executive branch to be able to intervene in these matters.

Trump has already made it cler that he'll be playing the "cops can do know wrong angl" and will be cheerleading incompetent buffoons like the cop in that video.

brush

(53,472 posts)
3. With too many cops the automatic response is to just shoot people of color
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:32 AM
Jul 2016

Wholesale change in training needed, along with weeding out of sociopath cops.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
5. This is attempted murder.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:59 AM
Jul 2016

This cop must do hard hard time and it must include a charge of pre-meditation given the amount of time he took to approach a prone man with his hands up in the air.

The other gruesome thing about this is how inhumanely the police just mill around, not helping the injured man. There's depraved indifference here. The by-standers need to lose their jobs and pensions at the very least.

These cops are not protecting the community. They are making it violent and dangerous and callous.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
7. Binoculars? Do the FUCKING POLICE KNOW how to use binoculars???????????
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jul 2016

ASSHOLES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
9. I don't thnk so. I thnk they look at people doing things (or not, as the case may be),
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jul 2016

while black, in the same way that Lloyd George asserted that Joseph Chamberlain, the then Foreign Secretary, looked at foreign affairs, i.e. though the wrong end of a municipal drainpipe. In the same way do they look at policing matters.

There were probably no black, centenarian ladies who hadn't mowed their lawn that they could electrocute a few times, before arresting and jailing. Or a barber so derelict in his attitude to his work that he had forgotten to renew his licence, only to be reminded in somewhat emphatic manner by a SWOT team, all 'tooled 'up' and ready for action, bursting into his shop !

HOLD IT ! FREEZE ! STAY RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE !

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
8. Well, that was just asking for trouble. Surely he was aware
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:23 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:11 PM - Edit history (1)

of the fairly recent, 'de facto' change in the law : that, unless significantly melanin-challenged, holding your hands high above your head is, ipso facto, proof of guilt of a double-dyed felony ; indeed, anecdotally-codified on occasions, it seems, as a capital offence.

If the nature of such criminal act remains to be established, it should not be considered germane. There are far greater issues at stake than could possibly justify quibbling over the etiology of the police interest. And, then, for the known recidivist to compound his crime yet further, by trying to sweet-talk the officers into listening to what he was trying to tell them was, frankly, unpardonable. There is only so much disrespect even a public servant can be expected to tolerate, without dispensing summary vigilante justice to the known perp.

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