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(41,829 posts)if Trump is elected. He can't deport Native Americans, so what's he going to do with them? Send them to Canada and Mexico?
DONALD TRUMP: MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN.
(It never was, baka yaro...)
Gaaah! kare wa orokadesu!
Gaaah! He is stupid!
RoverSuswade
(641 posts)Didn't he "do something" for civilization?
zebonaut
(3,688 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 21, 2016, 03:38 PM - Edit history (1)
From Michio Kaku to Neil DeGrass Tyson.....
And apparently he's never heard of Stevie Wonder. How many chords does Steve King know?
shenmue
(38,506 posts)turbinetree
(24,688 posts)We the Indigenous People didn't ever think that we had some Manifest Destiny and Doctrine of Discovery concept or mentality.
We had laws we used, we never hit our children for example, but you do, the mother of our children were respected and loved, now they are abused because of your alcohol.
We gave you corn and potatoes to live on, because your ilk had no concept on how to survive, and just think, your race took from us the concept of a government to write a document, let me break it to you, from the Iroquois Nation, which is part of the Cherokee brotherhood and family, which is related to the Ohio, Chickasaw, Pontiac, Saginaw, Mohawk for starters.
Then your ilk went into the land of the Southern Brother and Sisters and found gold in the Aztec, the Incas, and this is what you did to them, I will use this song as a reference, because you loaded your ship with the gold and silver, and you made some of them slaves. Then you brought your religion into the California's and wiped out an entire people if they did not submit to your God
What did we get from you, we got chicken pox, genocide, the killing of our buffalo, we saw the wanton taking of our land for gold and silver, because you just wanted it.
The breaking of worthless treating, while the hypocrite man talked out of both sides of his or her mouth, we got reservations, that are third world countries, but your ilk wanted the land, the gold and silver from the Black Hills, and you came.
We now have U.S. Senators with there new Manifest Destiny and Doctrine of Discovery, selling off our religious sites for greed to foreign companies, and whats really classic you want to build a wall because your Manifest Destiny and Doctrine of Discovery has wiped out the corn farmer in Mexico, unless they buy corn seed from a conglomerate called Con Agra, or Monsanto, so your ilk wants to build a wall.
And we gave you land to help preserve our ancestral heritage so you and I could work together with common good and the rancher to have his or her European cattle be more important than our buffalo, and you allow armed right wing hypocrites to come on our lands with guns and threaten those lands.
And the best for last, you jerk-off, with a little research that you "could" do but won't because you have your head so far up your behind (being nice) that you think your right wing Manifest Destiny or Doctrine of Discovery hypocrisy was the best thing that came along since slice bread , your race did this not to long ago.
http://www.vice.com/read/native-american-women-are-rape-targets-because-of-a-legislative-loophole-511
Yeah, we the Indigenous People have got to give your ilk a big shout out for being what you are ( fill in the blank), because we were not and still not good enough, and we have seen first hand what you do, and what you have done
PatSeg
(47,352 posts)two World Wars, the Holocaust, nuclear weapons, Vietnam war, Mussolini, Franco, Hilter, DDT, Agent Orange, climate change.............What on earth is you definition of "civilization" Congressman?
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)They should have boxed him into a corner and said to him, you talk like a racists, and kept him there, until he got up and walked off that MSM platform, to hell with the "commercial" breaks.
Then they should have done a pan shot of the Iowan delegation on the floor, and said that this is what supports this person and there nominee----------------but they didn't.
His definition of civilization is that if helps (him) spread hate and fear so be it, to hell with everyone else
PatSeg
(47,352 posts)One rarely gets such a great opportunity. Sadly, I think he really believes what he says, he lives in a bubble.
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)but in this case he was prime bait for it, his record speaks it, and his legislation speaks it, they had this moment.
Peirce, Hayes, and the others should have put him on the spot and then should have handed him the shovel to bury himself in his dogma, they have seen him do it before, and if I had been there I would have called him a racists.
I would like to have seen his eyes turn into the deer eyes looking into the head lights for that one moment.
The MSM job, and it is a job, is to back this right wing hypocrite and others into a corner, to expose them for what and who they are--------------dangerous, and they have no business to be in a position of power, exposing me, family, children, you or society in general to his dangerous rhetoric, an d at any time he is given the stage like he was then its time to questions his veracity to be in power
PatSeg
(47,352 posts)Just a different point of view.
Last night Christiane Amanpour was on the The Daily Show and she really nailed it. She said some people will disagree, but that journalists should NOT be neutral, they should be truthful. "Neutral implies a false equivalency." Exposing King's racism is not politically biased, it is truthful. Also it would have taken so little effort to put King in his place in just a few minutes.
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)They are going to be putting on the racist head and the vice head, or for that matter in the coming weeks, any of them from there party and on there "shows" in the near future.
They are going to ask him, I know, I am being cynical, but they will ask "soft ball questions".
And they will not put him in the proverbial box, and all they need to do is ask just one simple question:
If you were black, brown, green, red, purple, cowboy, cowgirl, Native American, Muslim, Chinese, or whatever, what would you think if someone was attacking you for your color of your skin, and why do you always have to use another nationality to express those racist views, and were you raised to be a racist?
If they don't answer it, ask again, we have a right to know---------------you don't move on, its the why moment, its that simple, why?
And when they have a public debate, someone should ask that question, and not have them screened before they can ask, ask them the question, and have it put into foreign policy, trade, domestic affairs, it is all related, all of the time
PatSeg
(47,352 posts)yelled at the TV screen as many times as I have. It is like they are checking off a list of questions and ignore the fact that a question was not answered.
I like your one question and it could be done so matter-of-fact - "So Congressman, were you raised to be a racist?" I can hear it in my head and I can see the dumbfound expression as he (or anyone else) sputters trying to come up with an answer. Most of them are well trained to anticipate the question and have a ready answer for whatever is thrown their way. A good journalist does the unexpected.
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)the two main character leaders of this fascist bigoted party on the Sunday Morning Show, Face the Nation, I don't know, it has maybe 25 million plus viewers or 40 million.
She asked them a question and gets the answer that is just so contrived, like it was rehearsed, then instead of a follow-up for you know, to be a journalist and the public that cares, she says, lets move on to the next question---------------really, that's your job description, you are happy with the contrived answer, these are two twits and there followers that really don't like the you the media, they want to take your job away from you, and make you into a propaganda machine for the masses.
You are making over 20 million a year to be a journalist, and most journalist would love to be in your position of power, to be asking questions, and all she did was ask, some "soft ball question" with another "arcane soft ball question" .
Its like if they have to work really hard to ask a question its not in there job description or they get fired.
Like ask them a question: Do you think your dangerous with your policies of supporting racists tendencies, because you come across as being a bigot and racist or am I wrong, and would you please explain why not to the public ?
This is a democracy or a republic and it was founded on the principle to expose and criticize a policy and a government and those in power, not the other way around.
And yes I would like to throw something at the t.v., they are giving these racist people a free ride and they don't deserve or qualify for a free ride.
My rant
PatSeg
(47,352 posts)have asked much better questions of politicians and have gotten some really extraordinary answers. The comedians are doing a better job than the journalists.
I think one of the problems is journalists don't want to be shut out, especially if there is a chance the person might end up in the White House. So they want the good interviews, but are not willing to ask the insightful questions. Donald Trump is a hard one, as he bullies his way through an interview. If a journalist asks something he doesn't want to answer, he raises his voice and talks over him/her. There are so many good questions for this guy and he's gotten a free ride for decades.
Good rant!!! I wonder what is in store for us tonight in crazy town!!!
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)headache, the bottle of Aleve was not enough, switched to Gin and Tonic, that didn't work, switched back to another bottle of Aleve, had to switch to another program, went back and he was still blathering, his nonsense.
Got sucked in and caught one point of lies, when he said that the navy personnel that got captured by the Iranian navy was Hillary's fault, he forgot one very important item in that lie, the two boats had and where trying to take short cut, and they violated Iranian sovereignty, the commander of that expedition/ patrol, got fired for doing what he did-------but not in the world of the republican and the big TP (Toilet & Paper party) dumpster--he came real close to leaving the teleprompter, he almost looked like he was getting ready to do his version of Mr. Creosote in Monty Python, but was standing up
Thanks for the compliment, you also have some good rants, can't wait for tomorrow and some of the talking heads saying there MSM nonsense, instead of saying this hypocrite is stupid and he is dangerous, and he is a bigot and outright racist that is narcissistic
One more Gin and Tonic :
PatSeg
(47,352 posts)that the fact-checkers will come through. I know this speech is full of misinformation or as I like calling it, LIES!
I know what you mean about the headache. I'm drinking sherry, but I know it won't do much good.
God help me - "Trump is my voice"!!! Please don't speak for me!!!
On a positive note though, not everything is Obama's fault anymore. Now it is Hillary's.
Have a good night!
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)See ya on the other side
C_U_L8R
(44,996 posts)poetry, painting, architecture, politics, shall we go on...
what a republican dumbass.
PatSeg
(47,352 posts)world history and ancient history in school.