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(27,787 posts)liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)And we're allowing it?
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)I'm sorry. I just....I can't!!! I'm glad that some people were on air making the distinction between what the DNC did and not what Hillary Clinton did. Of course some people in their rabid sore loser mentality combined the two. Yes Hillary benefited from it but this was the DNCs doing. I'm glad people are finally around to the horror that DWS is but most of y'all are late and didn't really pay attention until the primary season. I have wanted her gone long before that.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)Literally the only thing negative in the whole list was them strategizing on how to defend themselves from his campaign's idiotic and entirely unproven accusations.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/14295
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)Funny how hard it is to get your act together, when the theater in which it is being performed is trying to destroy your production.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)It's not even her job to get them to meet the deadlines. She went out of their way for them.
Are you that chair-brandishing kook who tried to blame the Arizona party leadership because the Sanders campaign couldn't even get their delegates to show up on time for the convention?
Don't blame other people for your own screw-ups, pal. You being incompetent is not a conspiracy against you.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)Interesting you're using a "narrative" the emails exposed as being fed to the media, to cover for their corruption.
Add to the insult, Hillary has appointed her to her campaign, as a reward for all of her manipulation of the campaign.
The delegates showed, but were not allowed, even when they arrived on time.
No chair was thrown, but there was an email feeding the media the story of "violence" and the "chair being thrown."
The whole thing feeds into Trump's "crooked Hillary" narrative. Hope you're happy with your choice. It feels good to be vindicated.
trueblue2007
(17,205 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)I don't want this done to any candidate in future Democratic Primaries! Do you?
zentrum
(9,865 posts).......about the integrity of the process and Democrats need that.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)I don't ever want the party to allow a non-Democrat access to the party structure/donors/voters lists again. It was a big mistake and I am sorry that DWS went to bat for him and allowed it to happen.
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stonecutter357
(12,695 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)We should require Democratic candidates in our Democratic primaries.
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)If you say you're a Democrat, you are. Other than the fact he caucused with Democrats, and voted with Democrats, he did them a favor by running as a Democrat.
I think it's hilarious the Hillary campaign always spun him running as a Democrat as a bad thing, particularly now, when clearly a third party run would have destroyed her chances, and certainly would now.
Sanders continues to be a selfless, tireless advocate for the party that rejects him. It's classic stupidity that people find the "name" "Democrat," more important that what being a Democrat, entails.
Now you're embracing the corruption--is that part of being a Democrat now, being corrupt?? If so, I don't want it. You guys can't even admit it when you're wrong.
stonecutter357
(12,695 posts)Locrian
(4,522 posts)I cannot for the life of me understand people defending blatant unethical behavior. It's not a single person party - it's *supposed to be* the democratic party. Anyone that does not get this is PART OF THE PROBLEM just like DWS is a PROBLEM.
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)You don't understand their candidate won, so they don't care? The unethical behavior helped them, so they're thrilled with it.
annavictorious
(934 posts)But for some reason DWS is responsible for unused strategies that other employees wrote about.
If this is DWS's fault, then the data theft was Bernie's fault.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Are you saying both the Russians and Sanders stole data? Did they do it at the same time? If not, why didn't Debbie take step to ensure security after the first hack? Or do you think Sanders stole the data and passed it off to the Russians so they could help Trump with it? Now that would qualify as a conspiracy theory and we all know that like unicorns- conspiracy theories don't exist.
annavictorious
(934 posts)Two DNC employees exchanged emails with ideas for very bad narratives in case Sanders ran third party. They were horrible ideas, and they were never carried out.
For all you know, it could have been DWS who stopped them. Or it could be that DWS never even heard their very bad ideas. Julian Assange wants a female "tribalist's" head on a plate, and some people who call themselves progressives seem willing to comply.
Let's put the shoe on the other foot. Two people in Sanders campaign thought it would be a good idea to steal data. I don't recall a firestorm blaming the senator himself or calling for him to withdraw from the race.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Limiting the number of debates and when they were, scheuled, denying Democraric lists to the Sanders campaign to nameva few. I can go on, but you'd never hear it.
If "nothing was done to Sanders", WHY IS SHE OUT?
Darb
(2,807 posts)It doesn't happen to Democrats now.
elmac
(4,642 posts)This wikileaks debacle just reinforced what many DNC outsiders already figured out, Bernie was screwed from the beginning. If he can forgive and forget that will be a big help towards the healing process but more lawsuits, class actions are sure to follow. Not good.
Warpy
(111,241 posts)I said from the beginning that my best hope was that he'd gain enough of the primary vote to affect some of the party platform and move it a few inches to the left. He exceeded my fondest hopes, so thanks, Bernie and all your supporters.
Yes, Clinton is the nominee. Yes, she benefited from DNC shenanigans. However, I'm not convinced those shenanigans are what put her over the top. Sanders just scared the hell out of too many conservatives.
I'm not upset that there is now a lawsuit. I'm delighted it's against the parties responsible and not our nominee. I want all the dirty tricks stopped, otherwise we become just like that other party.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Hillary won the Primary by her own mettle. Her own work over the course of her lifetime.
There were "shenanigans" & plenty of dirty tricks by her opponant also. Do not even deny that.
Hillary won because she was the preferred candidate. She won in spite of the money to damn her name, her loyal Dem Party & attacks against her from all sides. She won this fair & square.
No one denied him anything.
Primary is over.
Warpy
(111,241 posts)It's undemocratic and it's wrong and if Sanders had been the beneficiary, Hillary supporters would be screaming for torches and pitchforks.
That's what has to stop. People who are rigged in are going to be compromised by it.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Saying they were just upset someone caught them?
Good times.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Yallow
(1,926 posts)And possibly a few more words.
It's ok though. The 1%, and all their money, and power are safe!
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)And if he plays his cards wrong, he may very well be disbarred for filing a SLAPP lawsuit.
All the millions of voters who prefer Hillary are indeed safe from him. Don't know what the "1%" have to do with anything.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
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Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)I agree that Wasserman Schultz had decided that it would be Hillary and did everything in her power to make it so. I agree that she should be booted out of the DNC. But I would really hate for this to become a Republican talking point - That Hillary couldn't even get nominated without cheating. Not going to go down well with the rank and file or the undecideds.
I wish they had waited until after the election, because if Trump wins, it ain't gonna matter.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)explains the timing of this sham of a suit ... those filing want a trump victory ... or, rather a HRC (Democratic) loss because they have convinced themselves that somehow, that would be a win for them.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Has jpr showed up here yet?
Its like "getting the band back together!!"
Whoo hoo!
F the Trump supporters that have played the RW game all along.
Hillary will win in spite of all who have worked against her.
F the crybabies. Trump & his Russa alliance, socialism, affinity for Fidel's governing style & every one who desires to change the American political system and our Constitution.
Hillary is the only hope this country has.
She has stood up to every one of them and our democracy of, by & for the people will remain strong because of her courage & her belief in the greatness of America.
The only thing she needs to change is the criminal organization that calls the shots in DC.
They will clearly fight her till the day she takes that oath of office and seats our next supreme court.
If you aren't standing with Hillary Clintin, you're standing with Trump and RW organized crime.
This country owes her a damn debt of gratitude for putting up with all the dirty backstabbing hate that's been relentlessly thrown at her every step of the way.
The convention this week will prove her worth & November will be hers to celebrate.
Thank you Hillary Clinton
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Its the same reason as they had from day 1.
Glad the Primary is over!
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Tweeted!
lastone
(588 posts)You believe in fair play, at the very least on an inter party level. What happened to Bernie Sanders looks to be more nefarious than originally thought and those who say it's all politics are as cynical as the lying, win at any cost, right wing bastards who will do anything for power.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)There is some noise that were actions taken beyond the emails at the DNC.
Wasserman deserved to be sued.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)They've been attacking DWS since day 1 for a reason.
They had nothing to beat her and Hillary & the Dem Party down with, so they did what?
There isn't just one person after her. Its the whole RW organized crime family. And they are all connected.
Thank the goddesses for the Dem Super D's in the Primary.
The firewall they worked so hard to destroy.
Can't wait till Hillary is our President and she begins to clean house in DC
Her run for President has certainly brought them all out into the light where they can be seen for who they truly are.
They revealed themselves.
Hillary is a genius.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)they mean Hillary is going to get rid of all of the people who care about humans.
I love it they don't understand what is wrong with the organization that is supposed to be running the contest fairly, biasing itself for one of the candidates. Yet they denied it all the time, when we constantly pointed it out during the campaign, nor did they seem to mind the corrupt nature of the acts.
We all knew it, as Sanders' voters. Many felt it, which showed up in the polls, with Sanders often showing winning by double-digits, when Hillary was always close, or losing.
Chemisse
(30,808 posts)I hate to see it distract from Clinton's campaign, and wish it was happening at a different time.
But I'm glad it's happening. Dems are better than this.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Predictable even!
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Gothmog
(145,122 posts)The plaintiff attorney is making money off his bernie superpac
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Gothmog
(145,122 posts)midnight
(26,624 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)This guy cracks me up.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Loki
(3,825 posts)mdbl
(4,973 posts)No one is questioning Hillary's nomination. The lesson to be learned is that we have problems with partiality in our system that has, of course, always existed but will just keep getting worse unless something changes. There is nothing wrong with following the democratic process to make our party better. If the Bernie haters think just because he lost the nomination that all is well they are just fooling themselves.
annavictorious
(934 posts)Even with all the cherry-picking, there is no email that implicates DWS.
mdbl
(4,973 posts)The DNC, however, could use some tweaking.
annavictorious
(934 posts)looks at the evidence, and realizes that it consists of a single email, very late in the primary process, between two staffers?
It's going to look to him like a case of buyer's remorse: My candidate lost! I want my donation back!