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Does Trump Know What It Means to Sacrifice? Thom Debates Trump Supporter..... (Original Post) thomhartmann Jul 2016 OP
Whut? forest444 Jul 2016 #1
Hartmann should make a sacrifice and bail out of RT uhnope Jul 2016 #2
Absolutely right rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #3
Sure he does Motley13 Jul 2016 #4
Was Neil McCabe camoflauging an obvious buzz cut? maddiemom Jul 2016 #5
yea yeah yea uhnope Aug 2016 #6
Anyone with critical thinking skills... maddiemom Aug 2016 #7
"worthwhile, thought-provoking information, whether from RT or Fox" uhnope Aug 2016 #8
Uh, I was using Fox as a completely opposite example from RT ( with more of a right wing slant maddiemom Aug 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author uhnope Aug 2016 #10
 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
2. Hartmann should make a sacrifice and bail out of RT
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:39 AM
Jul 2016

like Liz Wahl and so many other conscientious media people have done

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
3. Absolutely right
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jul 2016

I'm not a big Hartmann fan, as I think his Sirius show is sponsored by unscrupulous hucksters and he lends his personal endorsement to rip offs (I also think he is a lot less smart than he thinks he is), but both are true of virtually all of the dying medium of talk radio.

But accepting money from Putin discredits him and anyone else (Ed Schultz, I'm looking at you) utterly.

Putin's lackey or your own man (or at least the lackey of gold hucksters and bogus nutritional supplements)?

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
5. Was Neil McCabe camoflauging an obvious buzz cut?
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:38 PM
Jul 2016

You'd think he'd be proud, but his hair looked weird: only of import because he was the major military defender. As to R.T. (and I know it originally was Russia Today), it's always an interesting watch and thought-provoking with hosts such as Hartmann. Its' never been as one-sided or vitriolic as Fox "News." That anyone who's ever had education in propaganda techniques would freak over RT is just knee jerk ignorance. But right-wingers do seem afraid of it, while liberals had what had largely been Roger Ailes's Fox pegged from day one. Alarmist name calling, loaded propaganda, insults to our president, etc,: RT or Fox?

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
6. yea yeah yea
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 06:03 AM
Aug 2016

You're wrong--RWers love RT because many RWers are starting to adore Putin & his propaganda. No, RT is avoided by anyone with functioning critical thinking skills. Here's something for you to read:

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
7. Anyone with critical thinking skills...
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:58 AM
Aug 2016

is well able to pick out propaganda bullshit from worthwhile, thought-provoking information, whether from RT or Fox. BTW, did you READ the reactions following the 2013 article? Makes my point even better than I could. An oddly far right wing article that certainly doesn't sound as if it would make any sense to anyone who was really a Socialist. What an obvious piece of crap.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
8. "worthwhile, thought-provoking information, whether from RT or Fox"
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:13 AM
Aug 2016

Yeah I thought you'd get around to praising FOX also.

You do realize the Russian gov that runs your precious RT is so RW as to be fascist, don't you? You are defending the RW every time you bend over backwards to pretend that RT is just another news source.

And you actually call that article I linked to "far right wing"? Entertain us and give one excerpt from it that could be construed as "far right wing". We're waiting.

Not only do you use these words in such a way as to make your message totally meaningless, but I think you do so on purpose. It's clear your intent is to deceive and mislead and fabulate. Hmm just like the RT you always go to bat for, what a coincidence

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
9. Uh, I was using Fox as a completely opposite example from RT ( with more of a right wing slant
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:31 AM
Aug 2016

at Faux), How about YOU give me examples of "strident tone of late Stalinist propaganda" or "uncritical support of Russian imperialism." Obviously you must monitor RT very closely. I just watch on and off and follow Hartmann, one of the sanest voices around and hardly "far left." You are overdoing your sarcastic, suspiciously troll-like defense with such terms as my "precious RT" " and my "intent to deceive, mislead and 'fabulate'. If my message is "totally meaningless" you certainly feel that you understood it perfectly (to YOUR mind). So what's your problem beyond an overly excited tone...or just having lots of fun trolling? To conclude, since I don't plan to continue this useless exercise, I TAUGHT "critical thinking" for many years.

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