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Climate Change: Prof Brian Cox (scientist) takes on Senator Malcolm Roberts (politician) (Original Post) Quixote1818 Aug 2016 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #1
Love the air and water on earth model shadowmayor Aug 2016 #3
I'm recommending this, although I can't watch more than several minutes of it. Old Crow Aug 2016 #2
EZ. CO2 graph. Human population graph. ffr Aug 2016 #4

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
3. Love the air and water on earth model
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 03:31 PM
Aug 2016

Thanks for this - I've been using a similar one, but this one is better. Now take that Air ball and put 80,000 or so coal fired smoke stacks in it, all spewing from our factories, generating stations, and especially cement plants. The CO2 released has a half-life of 250 years plus, meaning that most of the CO2 generated in the 19th century is still floating in the atmosphere. The water ball holds all of the fish in the sea. Hard to imagine, but we live in a wispy veneer of air with a thin coating of water covering what is essentially a molten rock orbiting the sun. We're just monkeys on a mudball and we had better learn how to get along - with each other and with our environment. Most of the oxygen and stuff we call air is only 6 miles thick, and the sea - about 2 miles thick while covering 2/3 of the planet. The ball we live on is 8600 miles in diameter for some perspective.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
2. I'm recommending this, although I can't watch more than several minutes of it.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 02:36 PM
Aug 2016

Why? Because it turns my stomach that, this late in the game, we're still seeing debates like this. All it takes is one asshole to publish an article on his blog titled "Why the Temperature Records Are Fake!" and then you've got self-appointed experts telling PhDs in physics, "It's a known fact that the temperature records have all been faked. I've read published studies." The combination of arrogance and ignorance is staggering.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
4. EZ. CO2 graph. Human population graph.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 11:40 PM
Aug 2016

An oversimplification of it, but really people. We are adding CO2 to the atmosphere. No debate, that's fact. We are increasing in number exponentially. No debate, that's fact. We're net adding three football stadiums of new humans to Earth every day.



A different scale, but just accept that human population growth was lower, much lower, 399,000 years prior to the graph.


What else can we see going on on Earth to coincide with the human population explosion? Oh, looks like the numbers all other species is declining or becoming entirely extinct, but not our numbers! We're increasing!


Or we could dedicate a show to discussing if humans are the cause of fresh water depletion. What does the graph say? What does this person or that person say? Oh look, we have a denier. Who gives a rats ass! It's data! What does the data tell us and what are we going to do about it. Phuck the deniers, they'll be the death of all of us.

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