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(5,902 posts)I lived in Mississippi for a number of years, and the attachment so many Southern right-wingers feel for the Confederacy just can't be overstated.
Nor the vindictive rancor they feel for not only Yankees; but for African-Americans - whom they somehow blame for bringing about the Confederacy's defeat (!).
It seems cliché to say that this rancor explains much of their political extremism today - but it's no exaggeration.
And this, despite the fact most Southern whites were literally worse off than slaves during the Antebellum/Confederate era. The power of some delusions, I guess.
raging moderate
(4,292 posts)This other guy was denied water for several days until he died, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
I walked door to door in several towns in Illinois.
There are a lot of white people who are filled with irrational hatred for Black people, all over our country.
forest444
(5,902 posts)It's easy to forget this is far from just a regional problem.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)that let white folks go free, and even profit, from the same things they are putting black folks in jail for. They wrote laws that let white folks make a ton of new money, while barring many people with black skin from the same opportunities. Some even make money from the private prisons these good people are incarcerated in.
They are all ugly ass bigots and racists whether they have a Southern accent or not.Some people are ashamed enough at their actions to perform them behind closed doors and lie about it, some do it out in the open.
This is just one example, there are others.
The Failed Promise of Legal Pot
New laws on marijuana were supposed to boost tax revenues and free up cops to go after real criminals. But underground salesand arrestsare still thriving.
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Asking to be identified only by his initials, D.C., one of the young men on the corner, breaks it down. Business has fallen since the law passed, but enough people think they can score a bargain, or simply dont trust the shiny new stores, to keep things moving. The police know about itthey always haveand they still bust dealers. Sometimes they do sweeps, D.C. says, referring to a well-publicized raid downtown. The cops are definitely more relaxed about it, he says, but sometimes they still show up and bust whoevers around.
A few days later, the corner is empty. The reason is a Ford SUV, painted black, blue, and white, idling at the curb a few feet away; a police officers arm hangs out the window as he surveys the faces passing by. A few hours later he is gone, and the crowd is back. Mostly, the crowd is black. Mostly, the cops who will bust them are white. Mostly, on the corner its hard to see how anything was changed by a movement that aimed to change everything.
The dream of legal marijuana as it is being sold to the American public is that it will not only give states a chance to reap a tax windfall off of a drug millions of Americans already use; it will end the back-and-forth tussle among cops, users, and dealers, and shift police resources to more serious crimes. Most compellingly, advocates hold out the promise of a major step toward dismantling one of the pillars of racially biased policingthe war on drugsand finally reeling in a legal net that has long entangled black men at vastly disproportionate rates.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/legal-pot-and-the-black-market/481506/
For 40 years, poor communities of color have experienced the wrath of the war on drugs.
By April M. Short / AlterNet March 16, 2014
Photo Credit: By Miller Center [CC-BY-2.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0)], via Wikimedia Commons
Ever since Colorado and Washington made the unprecedented move to legalize recreational pot last year, excitement and stories of unfettered success have billowed into the air. Colorado's marijuana tax revenue far exceeded expectations, bringing a whopping $185 million to the state, and tourists are lining up to taste the budding culture (pun intended). Several other states are now looking to follow suit and legalize.
But the ramifications of this momentous shift are left unaddressed. When you flick on the TV to a segment about the flowering pot market in Colorado, you'll find that the faces of the movement are primarily white and male. Meanwhile, many of the more than 210,000 people who were arrested for marijuana possession in Colorado between 1986 and 2010 according to a report from the Marijuana Arrest Research Project, remain behind bars. Thousands of black men and boys still sit in prisons for possession of the very plant that's making those white guys on TV rich.
In many ways the imagery doesn't sit right, said Michelle Alexander, associate professor of law at Ohio State University and author of The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness in a public conversation on March 6 with Asha Bandele of the Drug Policy Alliance. Here are white men poised to run big marijuana businesses, dreaming of cashing in bigbig money, big businesses selling weedafter 40 years of impoverished black kids getting prison time for selling weed, and their families and futures destroyed. Now, white men are planning to get rich doing precisely the same thing...?
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/michelle-alexander-white-men-get-rich-legal-pot-black-men-stay-prison
AP 9:28 p.m. EDT June 4, 2013
marijuana
(Photo: Elaine Thompson, AP)
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
About 14% of blacks and 12% of whites report using pot in the year prior
Blacks were 3.73 times more likely than whites to be arrested for it
Arrests of blacks were higher in counties with higher median incomes
WASHINGTON (AP) Black people are arrested for possessing marijuana at a higher rate than white people, even though marijuana use by both races is about the same, the American Civil Liberties Union reports in a new study...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/04/race-marijuana/2389677/
forest444
(5,902 posts)We were just discussing the very thing with raging moderate: the common misperception (including mine, at times) that crass racial injustice is peculiar to the South.
I mostly brought that particular example of Southern right-wingers delusionally blaming Blank folks for the Confederacy's (richly deserved) loss during the Civil War because I happened to live in a couple Deep South states over the years (MS and TN, as well as Texas), and never ceased to be amazed with how pervasive this sentiment is among the hard Southern right.
Qué será.
Joey Liberal
(5,526 posts)I lived in Clarksville, Tennessee while doing a hitch in the Army and it seemed like they couldn't let go of the Civil War.
forest444
(5,902 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 20, 2016, 07:04 PM - Edit history (1)
"We had better generals, and should have won." "Yankees didn;t care about the n****s; they're just a bunch of hypocrites." "We'd be a great country if this were the CSA."
Not all white Southerners feel this way - not by a longshot. But so many do, that the more moderate ones often feel the need to keep quiet about the subject. It really is that bad in some places in the Deep South.
turbinetree
(24,685 posts)and charged with 1st degree murder, by the officer standing next to him, and since he did nothing, then he should be charged with accessory to murder also.
raging moderate
(4,292 posts)We have to fix this.
turbinetree
(24,685 posts)How many other countries does this happen in---------------where human beings are being shot in the back, just for walking back to your car-----------------------why isn't this murderer not in jail, where is the right wing governor on this issue, and the legislature, the local sheriff and the police chief, the District Attorney, there going to hold some news conference, BS, throw them both in jail and anyone else that was there.
They all talk the talk but they don't do the walk, they use the administrative leave investigation ploy.
SCantiGOP
(13,866 posts)In terms of basic humanity: the shooting, or letting the guy lie there and bleed out without any attempt to help him?
These videos get more disgusting every day, and yet most people I know can dismiss this but get red in the face if some guy the will never meet doesn't stand for a fucking song.
turbinetree
(24,685 posts)and the answer to your remarks in my opinion is all of the above, they just don't care, they think that some fucking flag is more important.
They keep forgetting that that song is not in the Constitution, they are more worried about how important it is suppose to be about the materialist symbolism of piece of cloth, and what they perceive this country to be, its not there folks, its a charade.
Your Civil Rights under the Constitution are being eviscerated right before your eyes, and when there is a protest, your marked as being something other than a patriot----fuck that.
This man was shot in the back, with his hands up, walking back to his car.
You can't walk back with your back, you can't walk facing to the front , you can't do anything, this country is just fucked up-----------------its just insane, ever since the early fifties has the police state only gotten worse-------------amazing.
If I / you were to do that to someone I / we would be in jail so fast, this is the double standard and the making of a third rate state/ country-------------amazing
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)turbinetree
(24,685 posts)and they were afraid for there lives, the same old excuse, every time.
Amazing.
yuiyoshida
(41,818 posts)Reformed, to weed out those who are corrupt and racist. There needs to be one standard for every department no matter what state it is. Cops need to be re-educated and held to higher standards all across the board.