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Zimmerman: It Was GODS Plan To Kill Trayvon, No Regrets (Original Post) Grassy Knoll Jul 2012 OP
HOLY CRAP! RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #1
Hannity and fox... Fuck you nmbluesky Jul 2012 #2
Playing the god card like this Warpy Jul 2012 #3
i dont understand Enrique Jul 2012 #4
Again... AsahinaKimi Jul 2012 #5
Very good. Hoyt Jul 2012 #7
Chris Hayes on Simpsons Bashing Fox.. Grassy Knoll Jul 2012 #12
He giving God a lot of credit for something HE HIMSELF did. God didn't pull the trigger, he did. appleannie1 Jul 2012 #6
That is appalling... cyberswede Jul 2012 #8
The new NRA slogan.... tdb63 Jul 2012 #9
Believing in "God's Plan" means never accepting responsibility for one's actions. bluedigger Jul 2012 #10
Here's what really gets me. RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #18
Oh man, that is SO not going to go over well at your trial Zimmy. Hahahahaha you fool uppityperson Jul 2012 #11
Insanity defense maybe? PotatoChip Jul 2012 #31
That's admissible in the trial... Kalidurga Jul 2012 #13
That is my thought also. Play it over and over and over. You'd do nothing different? No. uppityperson Jul 2012 #16
It had to be the Deal Fox made with bonniebgood Jul 2012 #14
So is this Smilo Jul 2012 #15
Is he trying for an insanity defense? Unbelievable. That means he no longer thinks that JDPriestly Jul 2012 #17
I can't believe that his attorney lets him speak in public... Rhiannon12866 Jul 2012 #19
The setup for a Diminished Capacity or Insanity plea? Ineeda Jul 2012 #29
Hey, thanks for the info. PotatoChip Jul 2012 #34
not heaven05 Jul 2012 #35
Funniest YouTube comment Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #20
If you saw the whole interview....... Grassy Knoll Jul 2012 #21
yes, and MSNBC reported that it was a fundraising strategy... grasswire Jul 2012 #22
God's Plan .. yeah right, well .... YOHABLO Jul 2012 #23
I thought God was too busy helping Tim Tebow to get involved LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2012 #27
ewwwwwwwwww struggle4progress Jul 2012 #24
well , in all fairness, the christian god loves murder. bowens43 Jul 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #26
Wow! Imagine if he's found guilty and the judge sees this before sentencing. Ganja Ninja Jul 2012 #28
he must be getting Big money from NRA......F U april Jul 2012 #30
un-effin-believable skydive forever Jul 2012 #32
"Gods Plan" sulphurdunn Jul 2012 #33
He's his own worst witness. He's going to jail. marble falls Jul 2012 #36
God should be prosecuted for causing Zimmerman to pull that trigger. lumpy Jul 2012 #37
sick bastard. demguy_5692 Jul 2012 #38

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
1. HOLY CRAP!
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:21 PM
Jul 2012

That is truly disgusting to me. Using God to justify what happened... wow. I thought God gave you free will you ASSHOLE!

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
18. Here's what really gets me.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:03 AM
Jul 2012

If you ask a religious person why God allows evil to happen, they usually say because God gave man free will. How they can believe both is beyond me...

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
11. Oh man, that is SO not going to go over well at your trial Zimmy. Hahahahaha you fool
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:50 PM
Jul 2012

I can't believe they let him say all that. I mean seriously. Aside from his "I'd do nothing different" attitude, what the fuck? How can they spin that in any positive manner? Keep opening your mouth Zimmy, here's some more rope.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
31. Insanity defense maybe?
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:00 AM
Jul 2012

That is the only thing I can think of. Unless GZ's lawyer had no clue that he would utter such nonsense in an interview like that... which I find hard to believe.

But if the lawyer is thinking something along the lines of insanity, that interview would not convince me of it if I was a juror. In fact, it'd just piss me off. The man is showing no remorse and is justifying his actions. That is typical behavior of a sociopath. Prisons are full of sociopaths.

An insanity defense would require GZ's lawyer to show that he didn't know right from wrong. At least that is my understanding of how it works. Sociopaths *are* considered mentally ill, but it'd fall under the umbrella of personality disorders. People w/personality disorders don't have breaks with reality such as a person w/mood disorders or schizophrenia. So unless the lawyer can get a really convincing mental health professional to say that GZ also has one of the other 2 mentioned conditions in addition to being a racist sociopath, that kind of defense would not work.

This whole thing is very strange. It certainly is a wtf moment for me too.

-OR- maybe you are onto something when you called him a fool. Maybe the lawyer has had him IQ tested and found him to be of below average intelligence. The dumbass defense. Sorry. This whole thing is no joking matter, and I *am* dead serious here even if it does sound kind of funny. I just don't understand what the lawyer is thinking!

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
13. That's admissible in the trial...
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:54 PM
Jul 2012

isn't it. I hope so. If I was the prosecutor I would be using any excuse to play that over and over again.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
16. That is my thought also. Play it over and over and over. You'd do nothing different? No.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:24 AM
Jul 2012

Nothing? No. You'd do everything the same? Yes. Everything? Yes. Including following him to where in your words you were attacked? Yes. Nothing different? No.

Oh please. PLAY it during the trial. Interview him more. Please?

bonniebgood

(940 posts)
14. It had to be the Deal Fox made with
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:10 AM
Jul 2012

Zman. While in Jail.

IN JAIL: Zman apologizes to the Martins family for his actions.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/george-zimmerman-apologizes-trayvon-martin-family-could-released-152857774.html

ON FOX: "it was god's will". For sure if he repeated the above, the money would stop coming in
from faux nooze viewers.

Yea Zman it was god;s will you spend the rest of your sorry arse in jail.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
17. Is he trying for an insanity defense? Unbelievable. That means he no longer thinks that
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:26 AM
Jul 2012

self-defense will work. Incredible. Outrageous. I can't believe that his attorney was sitting right there at his side while he said that.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
29. The setup for a Diminished Capacity or Insanity plea?
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 07:48 AM
Jul 2012

from WIKI:
Diminished capacity is a partial defense to charges that require that the defendant act with a particular state of mind. For example, first degree murder requires that the state prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant acted with premeditation, deliberation and the specific intent to kill - all three are necessary elements of the state's case. If evidence exists, sufficient to create a reasonable doubt as to whether the defendant because of mental illness or "defect" possessed the capacity to premeditate, deliberate or form the specific intent to kill then the state cannot convict the defendant of first degree murder. This does not mean that the defendant is entitled to an acquittal. The defendant still might be convicted of second degree murder which only requires that the defendant act with general malice. The defense [of diminished capacity] is to be contrasted with insanity which is a complete but affirmative defense. In most jurisdictions a defendant would be acquitted on the grounds of insanity if the defendant established to the satisfaction of the jury that he suffered from such a mental disease or defect that he was unable to appreciate the consequences of his actions or did not know what he was doing was wrong. As noted a successful insanity defense will result in acquittal although a number of jurisdictions have adopted the guilty but insane verdict. The defense of insanity and diminished capacity although clearly distinct are not inconsistent defenses and both may be at issue in the same case. The critical distinctions are that diminished capacity is a partial, negating defense (negates an element of the state's case) with the burden on the state to show that the defendant acted with the requisite state of mind while insanity is a complete but affirmative defense - the defendant bearing the burden of proving that he was legally insane.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
34. Hey, thanks for the info.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jul 2012

I was thinking something along the same line as you (in post #31) before I saw your reply.

Only, your post has much better info to work with.

Both of these defenses would be very difficult to pull off though. If this is the lawyer's intent, I'm surprised that he would think the interview would help in that regard. Even if, as you point out, they are attempting to setup one or both of these defenses.

GZ's team really appears to be desperate at this point.

It blows my mind to think that if not for the public outcry, GZ very nearly got away with this.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
35. not
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 11:12 AM
Jul 2012

they are NOT desperate. for his attorney to let him say these things tells me that he expects acquittal from a fla-arizona-texas-north carolina type jury. what type? do I really have to spell the word?

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
20. Funniest YouTube comment
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:47 AM
Jul 2012
Nice to see he believes in Baal.


I swear,....America is pretty much awake these days....

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
21. If you saw the whole interview.......
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:58 AM
Jul 2012

Hannity force fed most of the answers,
Zimmerman: Yes Sir, No sir, can I suck your toes sir,
Thank you for fighting my fight for me sir.
Hannity is a disgrace, and he proved it tonight.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
22. yes, and MSNBC reported that it was a fundraising strategy...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:20 AM
Jul 2012

....to do the interview. Zim is hoping this will bring a reward of donations.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
23. God's Plan .. yeah right, well ....
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:47 AM
Jul 2012

it's also God's plan to have you locked up for the rest of your sorry life.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
25. well , in all fairness, the christian god loves murder.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:49 AM
Jul 2012

He was after all, according to the thumpers book, a very prolific mass murderer himself.

Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
28. Wow! Imagine if he's found guilty and the judge sees this before sentencing.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 07:38 AM
Jul 2012

This is the stupidest move since the Jerry Sandusky interview with Bob Costas. What kind of lawyer does he have?

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
33. "Gods Plan"
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:56 AM
Jul 2012

fill in the blank______________ is an evangelical dog whistle. It allows one to do horrible things and then claim to have been merely His instrument. A not atypical evangelical response to this would be something like: This happened because God has a plan for George Zimmerman's life (to make him a better man), and that for reasons known only to God, he used Zimmerman to end Trayvon Martin's life. I think the plan is to make Zimmerman an evangelical martyr and get at least one person who thinks so on his jury.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
37. God should be prosecuted for causing Zimmerman to pull that trigger.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 03:00 PM
Jul 2012

Shame shame I thought God was loving god.

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