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(1,374 posts)That is truly disgusting to me. Using God to justify what happened... wow. I thought God gave you free will you ASSHOLE!
nmbluesky
(2,561 posts)And Zimmerman you are an asshole..
Warpy
(111,245 posts)shows the punk knows he's fucked.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)why would he go on TV and say he doesnt regret killing Trayvon?
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)appleannie1
(5,067 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)I can't believe his lawyer let him make a statement like that.
tdb63
(73 posts)...Guns don't kill people God does.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)If you ask a religious person why God allows evil to happen, they usually say because God gave man free will. How they can believe both is beyond me...
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)I can't believe they let him say all that. I mean seriously. Aside from his "I'd do nothing different" attitude, what the fuck? How can they spin that in any positive manner? Keep opening your mouth Zimmy, here's some more rope.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)That is the only thing I can think of. Unless GZ's lawyer had no clue that he would utter such nonsense in an interview like that... which I find hard to believe.
But if the lawyer is thinking something along the lines of insanity, that interview would not convince me of it if I was a juror. In fact, it'd just piss me off. The man is showing no remorse and is justifying his actions. That is typical behavior of a sociopath. Prisons are full of sociopaths.
An insanity defense would require GZ's lawyer to show that he didn't know right from wrong. At least that is my understanding of how it works. Sociopaths *are* considered mentally ill, but it'd fall under the umbrella of personality disorders. People w/personality disorders don't have breaks with reality such as a person w/mood disorders or schizophrenia. So unless the lawyer can get a really convincing mental health professional to say that GZ also has one of the other 2 mentioned conditions in addition to being a racist sociopath, that kind of defense would not work.
This whole thing is very strange. It certainly is a wtf moment for me too.
-OR- maybe you are onto something when you called him a fool. Maybe the lawyer has had him IQ tested and found him to be of below average intelligence. The dumbass defense. Sorry. This whole thing is no joking matter, and I *am* dead serious here even if it does sound kind of funny. I just don't understand what the lawyer is thinking!
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)isn't it. I hope so. If I was the prosecutor I would be using any excuse to play that over and over again.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Nothing? No. You'd do everything the same? Yes. Everything? Yes. Including following him to where in your words you were attacked? Yes. Nothing different? No.
Oh please. PLAY it during the trial. Interview him more. Please?
bonniebgood
(940 posts)Zman. While in Jail.
IN JAIL: Zman apologizes to the Martins family for his actions.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/george-zimmerman-apologizes-trayvon-martin-family-could-released-152857774.html
ON FOX: "it was god's will". For sure if he repeated the above, the money would stop coming in
from faux nooze viewers.
Yea Zman it was god;s will you spend the rest of your sorry arse in jail.
Smilo
(1,944 posts)his looney tunes defense or his try at a second career as a store front minister?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)self-defense will work. Incredible. Outrageous. I can't believe that his attorney was sitting right there at his side while he said that.
Rhiannon12866
(205,202 posts)Ineeda
(3,626 posts)from WIKI:
Diminished capacity is a partial defense to charges that require that the defendant act with a particular state of mind. For example, first degree murder requires that the state prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant acted with premeditation, deliberation and the specific intent to kill - all three are necessary elements of the state's case. If evidence exists, sufficient to create a reasonable doubt as to whether the defendant because of mental illness or "defect" possessed the capacity to premeditate, deliberate or form the specific intent to kill then the state cannot convict the defendant of first degree murder. This does not mean that the defendant is entitled to an acquittal. The defendant still might be convicted of second degree murder which only requires that the defendant act with general malice. The defense [of diminished capacity] is to be contrasted with insanity which is a complete but affirmative defense. In most jurisdictions a defendant would be acquitted on the grounds of insanity if the defendant established to the satisfaction of the jury that he suffered from such a mental disease or defect that he was unable to appreciate the consequences of his actions or did not know what he was doing was wrong. As noted a successful insanity defense will result in acquittal although a number of jurisdictions have adopted the guilty but insane verdict. The defense of insanity and diminished capacity although clearly distinct are not inconsistent defenses and both may be at issue in the same case. The critical distinctions are that diminished capacity is a partial, negating defense (negates an element of the state's case) with the burden on the state to show that the defendant acted with the requisite state of mind while insanity is a complete but affirmative defense - the defendant bearing the burden of proving that he was legally insane.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)I was thinking something along the same line as you (in post #31) before I saw your reply.
Only, your post has much better info to work with.
Both of these defenses would be very difficult to pull off though. If this is the lawyer's intent, I'm surprised that he would think the interview would help in that regard. Even if, as you point out, they are attempting to setup one or both of these defenses.
GZ's team really appears to be desperate at this point.
It blows my mind to think that if not for the public outcry, GZ very nearly got away with this.
they are NOT desperate. for his attorney to let him say these things tells me that he expects acquittal from a fla-arizona-texas-north carolina type jury. what type? do I really have to spell the word?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Nice to see he believes in Baal.
I swear,....America is pretty much awake these days....
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Hannity force fed most of the answers,
Zimmerman: Yes Sir, No sir, can I suck your toes sir,
Thank you for fighting my fight for me sir.
Hannity is a disgrace, and he proved it tonight.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)....to do the interview. Zim is hoping this will bring a reward of donations.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)it's also God's plan to have you locked up for the rest of your sorry life.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,582 posts)in other stuff.
struggle4progress
(118,278 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)He was after all, according to the thumpers book, a very prolific mass murderer himself.
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Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)This is the stupidest move since the Jerry Sandusky interview with Bob Costas. What kind of lawyer does he have?
april
(1,148 posts)skydive forever
(443 posts)this needs to go viral
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)fill in the blank______________ is an evangelical dog whistle. It allows one to do horrible things and then claim to have been merely His instrument. A not atypical evangelical response to this would be something like: This happened because God has a plan for George Zimmerman's life (to make him a better man), and that for reasons known only to God, he used Zimmerman to end Trayvon Martin's life. I think the plan is to make Zimmerman an evangelical martyr and get at least one person who thinks so on his jury.
marble falls
(57,077 posts)lumpy
(13,704 posts)Shame shame I thought God was loving god.
demguy_5692
(41 posts)I hope he's locked up forever..