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Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:22 PM

Cenk's Prediction On Trump And Russia...

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Reply Cenk's Prediction On Trump And Russia... (Original post)
Quixote1818 Mar 2017 OP
bettyellen Mar 2017 #1
Quixote1818 Mar 2017 #3
bettyellen Mar 2017 #5
LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #10
bettyellen Mar 2017 #11
LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #13
bettyellen Mar 2017 #14
LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #15
bettyellen Mar 2017 #16
LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #17
bettyellen Mar 2017 #18
StevieM Mar 2017 #19
StevieM Mar 2017 #20
truebluegreen Mar 2017 #4
dancePop Mar 2017 #7
truebluegreen Mar 2017 #8
MFM008 Mar 2017 #2
tomhagen Mar 2017 #6
Pluvious Mar 2017 #9
Red Knight Mar 2017 #12

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:29 PM

1. Don't trust that man- he was a fool for RT propaganda ....

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 2, 2017, 11:06 PM

3. Cenk? He never had a show on RT.

Are you thinking of Thom Hartman?

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 01:04 AM

5. No he pushed a lot of the same anti- Dem bullshit that RT did.... he's a sucker and phony

 

Who used to be a fan of the GOP. He's nuts.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 01:32 PM

10. Some Dems hate him because as a journalist, he critiqued both sides.

 

Some in here want every 'liberal' journalist to be like a Fox News one.....only for them. That is to only bash the Republicans, which is easy enough to do. Cenk dared to criticize some of Obama's actions and for that he will never be forgiven by these purists.

It doesn't matter how many of these pieces he puts out laying waste to Trump and the Republicans. He is on their ignore list now. What a petty waste.

And FYI, both Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton used to be a fan of the GOP at some point.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 01:41 PM

11. I simply said he was a fool. I don't hate him or as someone else claims, think he's as bad as DT....

 

That kind of oversimplification of ideas is pretty ridiculous, but I think Cenk is often OTT and sensationalistic just for the hell of it. Whatever.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 01:58 PM

13. Comparing Cenk to Trump is absurd of course

 

And I'm sorry if I implied you hate him. But even to say he is 'a fool' is ridiculous. Based on what? Find me some quotes that he has said that sounds foolish. I maintain the distaste for him by some is soley based on his support of Bernie in the primaries and his willingness to critique some areas of the Democratic party behavior.

You think he is OTT ? What kind of response to Trump do you want? The same passive defensive spineless reaction that the MSM puts out, or did, because they don't want to offend anyone? As far as I'm concerned we need more passion in our media at this critical time, not less. He shows a bit of arrogance sometimes. But no one is perfect.

This purity test has gone from rejecting all allies in Washington like Sanders, to rejecting all allies in the news media as well. This kind of petty puritanism must stop.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 02:09 PM

14. I agree the divisiveness should stop but I think Cenk's a bit of a crack pot - sorry!

 

The blustering exaggerations and bolstering of all the Wikileaks crap is a big problem for me. My instinct is that it's all theater to him. I can't shake that feeling.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #14)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 02:41 PM

15. You can have your own opinion of course

 

'blustering' I'll grant you. 'exaggerations'? No need for them in the Trump era. Just because they sound like exaggerations.

He didn't release the DNC emails. But once they were out, as a Bernie supporter he was naturally upset to see the different lengths DWS was prepared to step on the scales for Hillary. I don't see how you can blame him. I was angry as well. And you also have to put into context that all of us, including most all Republicans, believed that Democrats would win and it was only due diligence as a journalist, to hold feet to the fire towards the pre-ordained winner. He also went out of his way to say time and time again that of course he preferred Hillary far and away over Donald if it came down to that.

I get that some personalities just rub one the wrong way sometimes. Some Dems do not like, in no particular order...Michael Moore, Bill Maher, Glenn Greenwald, etc... But IMO, anyone that helps the Resistance I have a space for in the tent.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 02:51 PM

16. Well I do trust him more than Greenwald... but I do think Cenk

 

(And many others) over sold the email stuff. I think it was time Sanders gave up and can see why people were fustrated with him. Just like I think Brazile and he Hillary camp knew it was a given there'd be a question about the water in Detroit.
I think a lot of people learned things about "the process" last year and they jumped on corruption as a reason to explain losses and there was a lot of bullshit around that. Some of it, from people I know, was quite deliberate in order to smear Hillary.
You've actually got to participate to change things, and I think people are finallly getting that now.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 02:58 PM

17. Ok, lets just agree on this

 

"You've actually got to participate to change things, and I think people are finally getting that now."

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 03:02 PM

18. It's a fine thing to agree on! Thanks for the chat.

 

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 06:48 PM

19. The DNC did not rig the election for HRC. She won fair and square.

Hillary got 55 percent of the vote. Bernie got 43 percent.

The DNC did not raise money for Hillary, nor did they scare donors away from Bernie. They did not organize volunteers for her, nor did they scare volunteers away from Bernie.

And listening to Bernie complain about wanting more debates sounded an awful lot like listening to Hillary complain about not having enough debates in 2008. It is a common complaint and hardly a good example of the DNC pushing hard for one candidate.

The people and the DNC who wrote about how Hillary would be the nominee were writing that after it was mathematically implausible for Bernie to win. In the very previous election we set a precedent that the PD winner would get the nomination--and the precedent was set with Hillary Clinton on the losing end.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 06:50 PM

20. Cenk repeated right-wing lies about the Clinton Foundation. (eom)

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 2, 2017, 11:20 PM

4. LOL

 

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:33 AM

7. I know, right.

 

The man just sent an army in money and people to Connecticut to help try and win back a seat for the Democrats and some people act like he's as bad as Trump.

It's insane.

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Response to dancePop (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:28 AM

8. Yup.

 

Some people think they get to define what a "real Democrat" is...and then accuse others of applying unreasonable purity tests.

It is insane.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:31 PM

2. Tic tic

Tic....tic.......tic......

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 04:17 AM

6. This scandal is about to explode

get out the popcorn. Five dead Russian Ambassadors-- coincidence

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:57 AM

9. Cenk's main point, supporting his theory...

Is indisputable !!!

The. BLOTUS. Really. Is. That. Stupid.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 01:50 PM

12. It's a nice theory but

The Republican congress went "all-in" with Trump. They are tying themselves to his corruption.

They will do everything possible to protect him unless it becomes impossible. Then they will jump ships like the rats they are.

I don't think it will happen so quickly. I would not even be surprised to see them start a war to distract from it all. I believe they are that desperate. It's a dangerous situation.

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