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Watch Susan Sarandon EXCUSE Her Anti-Hillary Behavior, Stephen Colbert CALLS HER OUT! (Original Post) OxQQme Apr 2017 OP
no thanks. She can go to hell as far as I am concerned still_one Apr 2017 #1
I don't think he challenged her at all mchill Apr 2017 #2
People are calling... zentrum Apr 2017 #3
Thanks to the assist she and Jill Stein gave to Trump. RandySF Apr 2017 #6
The town hall protests, etc. would not be happening if Hillary had won because Perseus Apr 2017 #21
Exactly. Sarandon setting up a false narrative to justify her stupidity still_one Apr 2017 #27
I agree with just about everything you're saying Rowdyag Apr 2017 #54
Yeah, because there's a gd fascist rigged in.. it doesn't Cha Apr 2017 #51
I watched it last night, as I do most nights...and she is a total turn off any more. Hulk Apr 2017 #4
Someone should ask Desiree Mares how she feels about the exciting revolution Charles Bukowski Apr 2017 #5
+1 betsuni Apr 2017 #10
Nailed it. Her money insulates her & her loved ones nocalflea Apr 2017 #15
Dog shit! GWC58 Apr 2017 #17
Thank you! Cha Apr 2017 #52
Well said. And this self-centered moron has the gall to nonchalantly mention the "focus" on lunamagica Apr 2017 #44
I didn't know BlueMTexpat Apr 2017 #7
I have the same experience. jrthin Apr 2017 #34
Was I watching a different clip? maddiemom Apr 2017 #8
I have heard enough from that stupid, privileged piece of shit. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #9
This party will never stop fighting the primary Red Knight Apr 2017 #11
is Susan Sarandon even a member of the Democratic Party ? stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #14
This is about S.Sarandon's self-serving justifications. nocalflea Apr 2017 #16
YES! Same here. maddiemom Apr 2017 #20
Thank you Red Knight LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #23
Susan Sarandon voted for Jill Stein. Charles Bukowski Apr 2017 #30
This isn't about the primary, this is about an elite who refused to vote for Hillary in the GE still_one Apr 2017 #28
naw I'm fine bashing Sarandon and her nonsense, and the rest of the apocalyptics who believe.. JHan Apr 2017 #29
Exactly! nt jrthin Apr 2017 #33
Those who say that are not the ones who will sufer. But the suffering of the others is a lunamagica Apr 2017 #42
Yes! it's disgusting, almost inhumane. JHan Apr 2017 #43
Yes she was a big Nader supporter, displaying the same stupidity and attitide lunamagica Apr 2017 #45
Bravo! Well said! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #40
This is about the GE and susan fucking sarandon... Cha Apr 2017 #49
She had what I call the Ralph Nader Delusion. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #12
Unfortunately to some Soxfan58 Apr 2017 #13
I normally watch Colbert but the night Sarandon was on, I just could NOT watch! MojoWrkn Apr 2017 #18
I can't decide what she's doing. cab67 Apr 2017 #19
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #22
+1000 LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #24
huh oh..You're going to get letters... LakeArenal Apr 2017 #26
Not really Cha Apr 2017 #50
So from the points she made what do those who attack her disagree with? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #25
I believe they have an applause sign and canned "WOO HOOs" LakeArenal Apr 2017 #31
The applause was genuine LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #37
I don't care how much money she has.. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #39
They don't have applause signs during interviews LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #46
It's all opinion... Yours, mine other posters.... LakeArenal Apr 2017 #47
I'm not trying to be antagonistic LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #48
A real progressive wouldn't consider HRC more dangerous Charles Bukowski Apr 2017 #32
Again, what of those points she made do you feel obliged to "attack" her for? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #38
Red Knight Nailed It... miamipilot Apr 2017 #35
Can't watch... Mike Nelson Apr 2017 #36
Calls her out? When? I endured this vomit-inducing interview just to see lunamagica Apr 2017 #41
He did not call her out amuse bouche Apr 2017 #53

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
3. People are calling...
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 03:05 AM
Apr 2017

…their senators and reps and doing town halls as never ever before. She's right about that.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
21. The town hall protests, etc. would not be happening if Hillary had won because
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 11:40 AM
Apr 2017

there would have not been any need to do it. What is happening is that people are starting to become desperate, those who did not see this coming, like her, are finding out that it doesn't pay to be stupid, ignorant and least of all a fanatic.

I don't see any real movements to stop this train wreck that is Trump, and anyone who didn't see it before the elections and voted against Hillary is a fool.

And the other thing that people like her do not see is that its not that easy to get rid of the administration they willingly voted for, they have the controls and they will cheat, bribe, and do anything in their power (and there is a lot of power) to stay put and do all the damage they set themselves to do. Does she really believe that those republicans who are getting yelled at in town hall meetings, etc. give a damn about it? They don't because they know that when the time to vote comes they will lie themselves back into power because people ARE very stupid and they will believe them again.

Anyone who pays attention would understand that republicans don't care about anyone but themselves, but people continue to vote for them.

Rowdyag

(105 posts)
54. I agree with just about everything you're saying
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 03:58 AM
Apr 2017

I maybe a tiny bit more hopeful about republicans getting voted out ( I have to be, the alternative is just to devastating)
Our Government was designed for us to participate (although it's like watching sausage being made) ..well, some Americans are finally participating. I'm not sure the obscene amount of money can be overcome but it's a start.

If America survives this (and that's a big if) we could be reborn in an image closer to the Founding Fathers vision.

Cha

(296,839 posts)
51. Yeah, because there's a gd fascist rigged in.. it doesn't
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 02:12 AM
Apr 2017

tale a genius to notice that... as she sits there on her cushiony $50 million bucks while the rest of the Planet, except the Elites. is getting fucked.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
4. I watched it last night, as I do most nights...and she is a total turn off any more.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 03:40 AM
Apr 2017

My impression was she wasn't challenged by Colbert, which I don't think it is necessarily his place to call the hypocrite out.

Honestly, I don't think she changed anybody's mind about HRC, but her lack of support and ignorant self righteousness is a major turn off to me. Pompous idiot. She seems proud that she supports Bernie, which isn't saying much, as most of us do. She dodged around any responsibility for bad mouthing Hillary. Worthless waste of air time.

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
5. Someone should ask Desiree Mares how she feels about the exciting revolution
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 04:05 AM
Apr 2017

Susan Sarandon and the "conscience voters" helped usher in.

Adult responsibilities have come fast at Desiree Mares. The deportation of her father has transformed her in four weeks, in her own estimation, from a sheltered American teenager to the family breadwinner.

One afternoon in March, she was in line at the mechanic to pay for the inspection of the family car. She has already transferred the bills and the lease on the house to her name. For extra income, she rented the spare bedroom to a couple who are friends of her father.

Within a week after her dad was deported, Desiree quit her final year of high school and increased her hours to nearly 40 a week at the store where she earns minimum wage. "I had to be able to pay the bills and pay rent," she says. "I can't really focus on school right now."


http://www.laweekly.com/news/tijuana-deportees-are-trapped-in-purgatory-8069760

Desiree's father's crime: a single 17 year old charge for drug possession. That's enough to get a man deportee who has lived here since the age of EIGHT.

SS is a fucking disgrace.





nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
15. Nailed it. Her money insulates her & her loved ones
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 09:29 AM
Apr 2017

from so much. She cares so much ... bullshit. She's a non-thinking useless piece of ...

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
44. Well said. And this self-centered moron has the gall to nonchalantly mention the "focus" on
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 09:08 PM
Apr 2017

deportations like it was a good thing. she's completely heartless.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
7. I didn't know
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 04:56 AM
Apr 2017

that I could detest her even more than I did a few months ago. But it seems that I still haven't hit bottom yet.

Mostly, I just ignore her.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
8. Was I watching a different clip?
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 06:38 AM
Apr 2017

It started with Sarandon's intro and ended with the "walking" bit. NO MENTION of politics.

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
9. I have heard enough from that stupid, privileged piece of shit.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 06:43 AM
Apr 2017

I cannot stand the sight of Susan Sarandon, let alone hearing her speak.

Red Knight

(704 posts)
11. This party will never stop fighting the primary
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 07:54 AM
Apr 2017

It's over.

If this party gets stuck in the mud of the primary of 2016 and can no longer move forward it is dead.

Bashing Sanders or Clinton or Sarandon accomplishes absolutely nothing but division. And that's great for Trump and the right wing machine.

Yes--I love Bernie and YES--I voted for Clinton in the general election and I wish that all Bernie voters would have done that too because I knew Trump as a disaster. Even if it was only a vote against Trump I would have taken it.

Going forward this party has to be focused on getting this guy out of office.

We can have our differences. I respect the Hillary supporters opinions even if I disagree on some things. But I really hope this party can move past every little thing. Who really cares what Sarandon says or does? The party should be bigger than that. But it will fight this battle again in 2020 with similar results if it can't heal and move on.

And primary fights are okay. They're good for the party. They define what we are.

But it should end there.

Yes--I will keep my Bernie avatar and I respect those who still proudly support Hillary.

But I never want to see a Trump take office again.

If this party fights the Bernie/Hillary battle for the next several elections it will be too late to fix any of the damage the Republicans do. And Putin is loving it.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
16. This is about S.Sarandon's self-serving justifications.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 09:41 AM
Apr 2017

Equating Hillary with Trump and not having to personally suffer because of Trump's policies.This is about the ignorance of privilege , not the primaries.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
23. Thank you Red Knight
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 04:56 PM
Apr 2017

For another voice of reason.

"Bashing Sanders or Clinton or Sarandon accomplishes absolutely nothing but division. And that's great for Trump and the right wing machine."

Russian trolls couldn't do a better job.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
29. naw I'm fine bashing Sarandon and her nonsense, and the rest of the apocalyptics who believe..
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 05:35 PM
Apr 2017

that we must suffer to get something good.

That suffering brings us closer to a "revolution". This is false, it's dangerous, and these sorts use their influence to throw a wrench in the engine of real progress - in fact they profit off of it, so I will continue to call her BS out.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
42. Those who say that are not the ones who will sufer. But the suffering of the others is a
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 09:02 PM
Apr 2017

price they are willing to pay. How noble of them!

JHan

(10,173 posts)
43. Yes! it's disgusting, almost inhumane.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 09:06 PM
Apr 2017

burn everything down so "my cause" or "my hero" wins, damn people's lives, their healthcare, damn stability and security.

When I think of the trillions now sunk in the sands of iraq, the deceit perpetuated on the American people by Cheney & Co, all could have been avoided, yet Susan continues when the stakes are even higher and the consequences far more dangerous under this administration.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
45. Yes she was a big Nader supporter, displaying the same stupidity and attitide
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 09:26 PM
Apr 2017

The thousands of dead Iraqis and Americans don't seem to bother her at all.

Cha

(296,839 posts)
49. This is about the GE and susan fucking sarandon...
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 02:05 AM
Apr 2017

sitting on her cushiony $50 Million Bucks while those less fortunate are getting fucked by the fascistrump.. you need to keep up.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. She had what I call the Ralph Nader Delusion.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 07:56 AM
Apr 2017

The I'm-against-everything-except-what-I-consider-the-perfect-so-I'll-watch-as-you-all-go-down-in-flames-because-you-didn't-go-for-my-perfect-candidate. The "I want my pony!" position.

The thinking that one candidate is perfect, so if not him, then no one. Extremist thinking that fails to recognize the "perfect" candidate will not win, and thinks that all other candidates are equally bad.

I was disappointed she took that position. I understand where she was coming from. Her big issue is the environment. It's mine, too. But once it became clear that her guy wasn't the candidate, the remaining two candidates were not equal. Actively working against the candidate that would have protected the environment more than the other makes no sense and is a selfish stance. Sort of like a temper tantrum. And ends up hurting the environment more, when the REALLY bad one wins.

Soxfan58

(3,479 posts)
13. Unfortunately to some
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:00 AM
Apr 2017

She is the quintessential elitist liberal. I've always loved her acting. But she really turned me off last fall. She has the right to vote any way she pleases, but publicly insulting Hillary when even her candidate was busting his butt to get her elected

MojoWrkn

(139 posts)
18. I normally watch Colbert but the night Sarandon was on, I just could NOT watch!
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 10:48 AM
Apr 2017

I totally agree with posters who say she is insulated from all the harm trump is doing by her fame and money! She gets no awards from me for standing up for the environment when she could have stood up for immigrants, poor people, the rule of law! Neither Bernie nor Hillary were never my candidate(s) of choice because I felt his goals were unattainable but Sarandon helped get trump elected by her stubborn stance against Hillary! That being said, I would have held my nose and voted for Bernie HAD he been the candidate and I would have felt much better about his presidency than I do trump's!

cab67

(2,990 posts)
19. I can't decide what she's doing.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 11:04 AM
Apr 2017

Either she's trying to rationalize her actions by pretending Trump's election is a good thing in the long term, or she believes things have to get worse before they get better. I have no use for either point of view.

Response to OxQQme (Original post)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
25. So from the points she made what do those who attack her disagree with?
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 05:25 PM
Apr 2017

That its is good more people are awake
or being more aware that Goldman Sachs have been involved in politics a long time
or that Republicans are being bombarded at town hall meetings
or people being engaged in the system,
or people holding their representatives responsible
or that we have to identify real progressives, people that will get us healthcare, and college education and infrastructure,
or that everyone should be entitled to health care
or lowering the price of pharmaceuticals
or working from the grass roots and running for office at the local levels

or even that we have to look at Democrats that are not voting the right way
and take money out of politics.

Sure seemed to get a great response from the audience.

Surely there are greater enemies than Susan Sarandon to spend your energies on.

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
31. I believe they have an applause sign and canned "WOO HOOs"
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 05:41 PM
Apr 2017

I think people attack her because as much as she acts like she is responsible for the things listed above, she didn't do any of those things. We were aware of that list without her pontification..That it's easy to call for revolution from you posh mansion, while many are too busy trying to scratch out this life than focusing on a revolution. That there is 28% on either the liberal and conservative spectrums that give that group zealots and "crazies".. Lots of folks feel she's part of the 28%.

Personally, I think she's irrelevant to either the Clinton campaign or politics today. I wish she wasn't constantly given a platform. But they give it and she takes it. Can't blame her for that.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
37. The applause was genuine
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 06:15 PM
Apr 2017

And why wouldn't it be? Why do you think they, a liberal Colbert audience, wouldn't be in agreement and would need signs to tell them to agree?

Also, what is the limit of wealth that you discount someones opinion? $20 million? 2 million? $100,000?
Does the opposite work then as well? Do you praise the opinion of a Trump supporter as long as they are poor?

And from my list of the things she brought up, please list the issues that put her into the "crazies" camp. Most of Bernie's platform reflects what every other western democracy does for their own citizens.

I agree that we don't have to hear from her, but like you said, she was asked. (And vocalized how she didn't really want to jump in but since he asked...). So she obliged.

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
39. I don't care how much money she has..
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 06:50 PM
Apr 2017

I just said it's easy to call for a revolution when you have the wherewithal to focus on that.
Her outspokenness, her insistence that she is right (in this case that there is anything good about a dump presidency)
Her own unwillingness to see why her views, particularly on Clinton, are inciting to others..
You don't speak for Colbert's audience. Neither do I. But it's a fact that they have applause signs and canned audience reaction...Talk shows do.
You only have to view some of the more heated statements regarding her in this and past posts. Others have stated her ideas if not crazy, are "out there" and not necessarily those of many, many liberals.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Mine is she likes to hear her own voice, thinks she has superior intellect, and thinks her ideology is the only good one.. Maybe she's right.. I don't know.. But that's not my opinion, which I am allowed to have just as she has..



LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
46. They don't have applause signs during interviews
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 10:01 PM
Apr 2017

How do the producers or applause card holders know in advance what her answers will be? Also if I were an audience member I certainly wouldn't blindly follow a signs instruction to cheer for a political viewpoint I disagreed with. At one point she actually looks at the audience for support and they immediately give it. That is a ridiculous theory.

And just because "others" have called her crazy shouldn't decide your view. Again, what did she say that you considered "crazy"?

"She likes to hear her own voice"?
She was on a talk show promoting a show and was asked to give her opinion.

"She thinks she has superior intellect"?
And you know this how? Your own superior intellect?

"and thinks her ideology is the only good one"
Most people think that their own ideology is the best one based on their own personal experience.


LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
47. It's all opinion... Yours, mine other posters....
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 11:39 PM
Apr 2017

Okay you win.. She was a marvelous, popular spokesperson for the people.. okay...

My opinion is one of the least "attacking" on this whole site. Yet you insist that I validate my opinion to you..
I THINK she likes the sound of her own voice...I THINK she has a superiority complex.

I THINK that one should never consider their own ideology as the "best" because there is no such thing. Ideology should be organic. Not set in concrete.

I THINK that she shouldn't get a platform.. But she did and I said "Who can blame her for taking it"

I THINK that I am not the only one on this post who doesn't think she is relevant. Some way more pointed than I....
Asked what points we disagree with... I can't speak for anyone but me. I don't disagree with many of her points.
What she presents in nothing new.. Hillary Clinton was the closest thing to getting those things at the time. Sarandon doesn't agree. That rubs folks the wrong way...

By the way... I was Bernie all the way.. Yet low and behold.. He didn't win..... I had to get over it.. Sarandon should too.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
48. I'm not trying to be antagonistic
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 01:34 AM
Apr 2017

I know there is more extreme vitriol against Sarandon, and some towards anyone that dared to support Sanders. and I appreciate you at least respond civilly and engage. Thankyou. You did say "Who can blame her for taking it".

And I agree in that her opinion is no more relevant than any other American's opinion and she doesn't deserve some special platform. But at the same time she is an actress who is told as part of her contract to go on talk shows and promote her new show. It sounds like Colbert egged her into speaking politics and so she relented. At least she is unafraid to speak out when given the chance, unlike some Hollywood celebrities.

I also was a Sanders supporter that moved to Hillary when he conceded. But I THINK that we should at the very least not alienate the enemy of my enemy. We need all the help we can get. She said some things, did some things in the heat of the primary battles, that I forgive her for. Ugly things were said about Sanders and his supporters as well. Now we are on the same page again. She wants to work towards a fairer and less corrupt system that works for the people not just big corporations and the very wealthy (despite that it might lessen her wealth), and so do we I THOUGHT. Sanders hasn't quit working for that and neither have I, nor has Susan. I'm over Bernie not winning, and so is Susan. There is no other choice. But Sanders is still fighting, the war is not over yet. Its just starting. And I THINK we have to start to forgive each other for our excesses and stop demonizing our allies.

peace

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
32. A real progressive wouldn't consider HRC more dangerous
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 05:45 PM
Apr 2017

than Trump.

Her progressive ideals ring hollow in light of that stupid opinion (and her vote for Stein).

I don't see anything wrong with attacking Trumpers and #JillNotHill types simultaneously. Both groups deserve it, and it's not that hard actually.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
38. Again, what of those points she made do you feel obliged to "attack" her for?
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 06:42 PM
Apr 2017

And I'm tired of the mischaracterization of her "more dangerous" claim ie. Hillary vs Trump. She said “I believe in a way she is more dangerous”
That "way" in her opinion, is that another establishment Democratic presidency gives cover to continue to cater to Goldman Sachs and Wall Street and the corporate influence in politics, in big money's influence. The slow slide rightward of the Democratic party away from the grassroots working classes to the moneyed classes. It was said in the context of a primary fight with a real alternative, championing traditional FDR Democratic values, still in the running. It was not about Hillary as a person. It was a comment on the direction of the Democratic party. If it were Biden vs Bernie, or O'Malley vs Bernie it would be the same concern. That sitting in a slowly heated pot may be more dangerous than feeling the heat right away and jumping into action.

I did not agree with her as I thought Trump and a Republican majority would cause so much damage that it would (will) take years maybe decades to recover from that it would be better to have the status quo third way politics of the Clintons hold the fort until a better and braver real alternative came around again.

But now that Trump is in office. Now that the shit has hit the fan, she is absolutely right about more people being engaged and that that is a silver lining. Including taking a serious look at why the Democratic party has been losing losing losing at every level for 10 years, and how to stop it.


miamipilot

(82 posts)
35. Red Knight Nailed It...
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 06:05 PM
Apr 2017

When a 'progressive' (Susan Sarandon) can't vote for a candidate based upon her 'progressive' values anymore, and for a candidate that she supports based upon her own take on progressive values yet still draws static from the other 'so-called' progressives. We are toast folks, done, finito...WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOSE IN A BIG WAY. YOU ARE A PART OF OLD ORDER!

Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
36. Can't watch...
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 06:13 PM
Apr 2017

...her acting is fine, but her politics is awful. Nothing justifies her pro-Trump behavior.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
41. Calls her out? When? I endured this vomit-inducing interview just to see
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:56 PM
Apr 2017

Sarandon spewing her stupidity, and Colbert fawning over her and letting her get away with everything.

I can only imagine what this segment would have been with David Letterman...(sigh)

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