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Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. If it did occur? These republicans are firmly and completely on the side of Russia
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 01:37 PM
Apr 2017

plain and simple.

GOP or most of it is now working with the Soviets, uh I mean Russians, or the KGB , uh I mean FSB.

They are enemies of America

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
3. God, won't the Repubs even read a decent newspaper
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 01:47 PM
Apr 2017

...and they are making decisions regarding life and death.
We need a purge.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
2. The entire party is complicit!
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 01:47 PM
Apr 2017

If they maintain this one ideology system, we will have violence as an alternative to their megalomania.

They are leaving us with little option. Look around the world at similar situations.

Time for our "American Spring"!?

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
6. Did she ask Massie about his recent dinner with Russian mobster
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 02:12 PM
Apr 2017

Alexander Torshin?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-pulled-out-of-meet-and-greet-with-conservatives-favorite-russian-a-suspected-mobster-060026495.html

...."Torshin’s trip to Washington illustrates what some U.S. intelligence sources say appears to be an aggressive Kremlin effort to forge alliances with conservative Republican Party leaders and activists, including figures close to the White House. They describe this as one element in the broader Russian “influence campaign” that included the Kremlin’s interference in the 2016 presidential election marked by cyberattacks on the Democratic National Committee and the email account of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.
Torshin, once a leader of Putin’s United Russia Party and a senator in the Duma before being named deputy governor of the Bank of Russia in 2015, is a key figure in the Kremlin’s outreach to the conservative movement in the United States. In addition to his appearance at the Prayer Breakfast — an event he has been attending for the past several years — Torshin is also a “life member” of the National Rifle Association — an organization that spent more than $30 million in support of President Trump’s campaign. Torshin has regularly shown up at the gun lobby’s annual conventions, even engaging in target-shooting contests in the exhibit halls with Republican strategists. His assistant, Butina, is the founding chair of a Russian gun rights group, the Right to Bear Arms, which has been described as a Russian version of the NRA. While attending last year’s NRA convention in Louisville, Ky., Torshin was introduced to Donald Trump Jr. at a private dinner at a Louisville restaurant, according to three sources familiar with the encounter.

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin (R) , State Duma before being named deputy governor of the Bank of Russia in 2015, is a key figure in the Kremlin’s outreach to the conservative movement in the United States. In addition to his appearance at the Prayer Breakfast — an event he has been attending for the past several years — Torshin is also a “life member” of the National Rifle Association — an organization that spent more than $30 million in support of President Trump’s campaign. Torshin has regularly shown up at the gun lobby’s annual conventions, even engaging in target-shooting contests in the exhibit halls with Republican strategists. His assistant, Butina, is the founding chair of a Russian gun rights group, the Right to Bear Arms, which has been described as a Russian version of the NRA. While attending last year’s NRA convention in Louisville, Ky., Torshin was introduced to Donald Trump Jr. at a private dinner at a Louisville restaurant, according to three sources familiar with the
“He’s sort of the conservatives’ favorite Russian,” said Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., who together with Rep. Tom Massie, R-Ky., had dinner with Torshin and other members of the Russian delegation to the Prayer Breakfast at a Washington restaurant. “He’s someone who understands our system. His approach is, ‘I agree with you Americans: People should have a right to own guns. There should be religious freedom. The whole problem is with radical Muslims. We were able to have a very good exchange.”
But even while forging ties with Rohrabacher and other conservative Republicans, such as former NRA president David Keene and veteran GOP consultant and Trump transition adviser Paul Erickson, Torshin has been on the radar of international law enforcement officials as a result of a long-running Spanish police investigation into a Russian organized crime syndicate known as the Taganskaya. The group has been accused of laundering profits from racketeering, extortion and other criminal activities through real estate and hotel investments on the Spanish island of Mallorca. Spanish police have made several arrests in connection with the investigation, and an alleged leader of the group, a Russian businessman named Alexander Romanov, pleaded guilty to money-laundering charges in the case last year.
The El País story reports that Spanish national police had wiretapped Romanov and recorded 33 telephone conversations he had with Torshin in which the accused mobster referred to the Russian banker as “el padrino,” or godfather. Alerted that Torshin was planning to attend Romanov’s birthday party on August 23, 2013, the national police prepared to arrest the banker, deploying a dozen officers at the airport and at the Mallorca hotel where the party was to take place. But a Russian official in the Ministry of Interior at the Russian Embassy in Madrid had been informed about the operation. When Torshin failed to show, Spanish police concluded the Interior official had tipped Torshin off. “We suspect that it was he who advised that Torshin was being investigated in Spain and for that reason, he did not come,” a judicial source is quoted as telling El País.".......

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
8. "It is hard for me to understand why he would do that on his own people"
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:50 PM
Apr 2017

Yes, Mr. GOP rep. That is the answer as well as the question. Assad is a sick MFer.

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
9. So Assad's One Sick Man? Let Me Propose an Alternative Scenario Here...
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 12:53 AM
Apr 2017

It's the "sick minds think alike" scenario. You got Putin, Assad and Trump. Maybe they are partners in a plan to totally wreck and destroy Syria, eventually killing everyone except Assad and his inner circle. Then they invite the Trump organization to come in and turn that whole devastated country into one big Trump resort, with golf courses and ocean front hotels. The primary shareholders / beneficiaries would be Putin, Assad and Trump - and maybe key GOP legislators would also have a stake in the profits as well... Hey, to get ahead in this bold new world, you gotta think big!

This might explain many things about Trump's radically changing position on Syria. During the whole presidential campaign, and up until very recently, Trump was quite emphatic about staying out of Syria. Then, just last night, I saw on Rachel Maddow that he has secretly started to send American troops into Syria. Heck, maybe Assad and Putin made him the right kind of real estate development offer that he couldn't refuse. Of course, I'm just speculating here, but perhaps my speculations might have a grain of truth to them. As Al Capone said, everyone has his price, even - and perhaps especially - Donald Trump.

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