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bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 02:40 PM Aug 2017

Bernie Sanders Still Wants To Transform The Democratic Party




As Bernie Sanders experiences renewed relevancy in the Trump era --and releases a new book, ‘The Bernie Sanders Guide to Political Revolution: A Guide for the Next Generation, VICE News reports on what it means to feel the Bern in 2017.
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Bernie Sanders Still Wants To Transform The Democratic Party (Original Post) bathroommonkey76 Aug 2017 OP
So do many, many Democrats. Warpy Aug 2017 #1
Right. elleng Aug 2017 #2
I absolutely agree Lunabell Aug 2017 #10
Right now I just want Bernie to shut up. redstatebluegirl Aug 2017 #3
He won't and neither will the rest of us Warpy Aug 2017 #4
Nice, just 'shut up.' elleng Aug 2017 #5
I voted for him in the primary, but never again. redstatebluegirl Aug 2017 #6
Bernie can go start his own party instead of fucking with the Democratic Party again. n/t Lil Missy Aug 2017 #7
you might want to think this through a bit more 0rganism Aug 2017 #12
He can take his die hard supporters with him. And no he is not the most popular Lil Missy Aug 2017 #13
i support continued growth of the Democratic party, and yes he is 0rganism Aug 2017 #14
Why Does Someone Who Doesn't Belong To Party Think He Should Set That Party's Agenda? Me. Aug 2017 #8
Then he shouldn't have quit after the convention. Scoopster Aug 2017 #9
Ditto Me. Aug 2017 #11

Warpy

(111,224 posts)
1. So do many, many Democrats.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 02:48 PM
Aug 2017

Face it, he's not some embarrassing uncle, an old crank howling in the wilderness.

He's respected because so many people agree with him.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
3. Right now I just want Bernie to shut up.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 02:56 PM
Aug 2017

If we don't unite we are looking at 8 years of Trump and Ryan, do you really think that is worth "blowing up the system"?

Warpy

(111,224 posts)
4. He won't and neither will the rest of us
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 02:59 PM
Aug 2017

Democrats have never been a lockstep party and never will be.

We unite on election day and that's it.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
6. I voted for him in the primary, but never again.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:04 PM
Aug 2017

Letting him decide to run as a Democrat was the wrong decision for the party. If you want to start a 3rd party go for it and then we will have Republican's right wing to the hilt for the rest of our lives.

He has an agenda that does not include me I'm afraid. Anyone who sided with Mrs. Clinton in the general do not fit your litmus test. I've been a Democrat for almost 40 years. I have walked until my feet hurt to knock on doors. I didn't agree with every one and NEVER bad mouthed a Democrat because the alternative was a group of facists.

Say of me what you will, this is the DEMOCRATIC Underground not Independent Underground.

0rganism

(23,934 posts)
12. you might want to think this through a bit more
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:20 PM
Aug 2017

nothing Sen. Sanders has done so far that you might call "fucking with the Democratic Party" would compare to the degree of fucking a Sanders-backed 3rd party would cause.

Sen. Sanders currently polls as the most popular politician in America. if Bernie goes and starts "his own party", what do you think is going to happen to the Democratic party? how many of its youth and its most fervent organizers and canvassers would a Bernie party strip away? Democrats are already in enough electoral trouble as-is, how much do you truly want to alienate Sanders supporters at this point?

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
13. He can take his die hard supporters with him. And no he is not the most popular
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:09 PM
Aug 2017

politician in America. Read the article.

0rganism

(23,934 posts)
14. i support continued growth of the Democratic party, and yes he is
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 11:42 AM
Aug 2017

i read "the" article regarding the recent Pew poll. over 2300 voters sample size -- quite accurate as far as polls go. he's not the most popular among Democrats or Republicans, but overall, across the electorate as a whole, he is the most popular. Democrats alienate Sen. Sanders and his supporters (die hard or otherwise) at our own risk.

Scoopster

(423 posts)
9. Then he shouldn't have quit after the convention.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:10 PM
Aug 2017

He already had plenty of say in changing national party rules & basically writing the entire party platform. And then he quit & started complaining incessantly about the changes he just made.

Look, I've got no problem with Bernie's ideas or political orientation, which were already ideas that have been floating around with Dems and the left side of the political spectrum in general for decades. What I do have a problem with is hypocrites. THAT is what turns me off about Bernie.

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