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Thu Mar 29, 2018, 08:15 PM

How dangerous is a bump stock? Very dangerous! Check this video out...

Last edited Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:20 PM - Edit history (1)

I am not putting this up to be gun porn, but to show how dangerous a bump stock makes an AR. It is for information.


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Reply How dangerous is a bump stock? Very dangerous! Check this video out... (Original post)
Ohioboy Mar 2018 OP
stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #1
Ohioboy Mar 2018 #5
Quixote1818 Mar 2018 #25
SonofDonald Mar 2018 #29
stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #38
Nitram Mar 2018 #35
ret5hd Mar 2018 #2
Post removed Mar 2018 #3
stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #4
mia Mar 2018 #6
Ohioboy Mar 2018 #7
mia Mar 2018 #12
Ohioboy Mar 2018 #15
Wash. state Desk Jet Mar 2018 #14
essaynnc Mar 2018 #8
Ohioboy Mar 2018 #10
shenmue Mar 2018 #11
Ohioboy Mar 2018 #13
AdamGG Mar 2018 #24
underpants Mar 2018 #9
mr_lebowski Mar 2018 #31
underpants Mar 2018 #34
IronLionZion Mar 2018 #16
tblue37 Mar 2018 #28
Nitram Mar 2018 #36
apkhgp Mar 2018 #17
Ohioboy Mar 2018 #20
bpj62 Mar 2018 #18
Ohioboy Mar 2018 #19
mr_lebowski Mar 2018 #32
gyroscope Mar 2018 #40
mentalslavery Mar 2018 #21
packman Mar 2018 #22
Ohioboy Mar 2018 #23
ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #26
tblue37 Mar 2018 #27
AdamGG Mar 2018 #30
IronLionZion Mar 2018 #37
Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #33
sandensea Mar 2018 #39

Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 08:20 PM

1. K&R

Last edited Fri Mar 30, 2018, 03:09 PM - Edit history (1)

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 08:32 PM

5. I didn't put it up to be gun porn.

I put it up to show the truth about how these devices work.

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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:04 AM

25. I posted a similar video a while back to make the same point you are and it got hidden

I argued my case that it should not have been hidden and was just pointing out how dangerous bump stocks were but I don't think the admins ever pay any attention. No emails or anything suggesting they had reviewed the post or any others that I thought were wrongfully hidden.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:00 AM

29. wow

I've owned Mini 14's before, regular and ranch rifle.

I've shot an AR-15 before.

This video is for information not gun porn, for me, a gun owner, it was sobering and all I need to be very scared that they exist and can be purchased.

We don't need any more of these made or sold.

That's very near the cyclic rate of the fully automatic version of the weapon, that's why this was posted, to show you these should be outlawed.

Very effective.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 03:09 PM

38. looks can be deceiving , he has a legitimate youtube channel .

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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 09:03 AM

35. Thank you, Ohio boy. I have been wondering what bump stocks are all about since the Las Vegas

shooting. This was very informative. I for one don't think sticking my head in the sand like an ostrich is the best way to fight for rational gun control. Our arguments carry a lot more weight when we are informed and know exactly what we are talking about. Censorship is for right wingers, knowledge is for liberals. Calling this "gun porn" suggests that the purpose of the video was to extol the virtues of guns. On the contrary, it calmly and clearly explains what a bump stock is, what it does, and provides some information about AR-15's as well. Knowledge is power. Ignorance is for wingnuts.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 08:22 PM

2. Excellent gun porn! Got more?

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 08:26 PM

4. I am so glad youtube demonetized how to gun videos .

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 08:44 PM

6. Welcome to right-wing talking points.

I've heard it all from my Republican relatives who own these guns. The video never discussed "should it be legal".

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Response to mia (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 08:50 PM

7. Maybe a different video showing how these things work would have been better.

People don't seem to understand. I'm not promoting bump stocks! I'm showing how much fire power they give to an AR, virtually turning them into an automatic weapon, something that is illegal otherwise.

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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:02 PM

12. Thanks for your clarification.

Perhaps if the maker of the video had addressed what was promoted by the title it would have been more honest.

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Response to mia (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:06 PM

15. I just edited the title.

I hope that helps.

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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:04 PM

14. Many people don't know what bump stocks are all about.

The video demonstrates the severity of the issue. It is after all far better to know than it is to think that you know.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 08:52 PM

8. Oh my gawd !!!!!!!!

So a bump stock turns a semi-automatic into a fully automatic weapon? And why is there a debate about whether they're legal? WTF, o? I say we send this video to every Congress Critter there is. Why is there a question about whether they should be banned?

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Response to essaynnc (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 08:57 PM

10. Thank you, I think someone finally gets my point for posting this.

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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:01 PM

11. I don't

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Response to shenmue (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:03 PM

13. Well, please tell me why then.

Do you think I'm promoting bump stocks?

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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 11:09 PM

24. I don't think the people objecting actually watched the video

It shows the insane level of fully automatic firepower that the bumpstock provides. It's mainly showing how it works without endorsing or disavowing them. It's illegal to sell fully automatic guns, so it's absurd that this device was allowed.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 08:57 PM

9. I actually found that very informative

I simple piece of plastic makes that big of a change.

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Response to underpants (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 03:08 AM

31. plastic is just a part that goes on a different side depending on leftie vs rightie

It's an important component of the system but only one part of the totality. It's a solid base to 'hold' your finger upon, basically 'barring' the trigger ... the gun + bump stock does all the rest in terms of firing the gun.

Anyways, the stock and handle were also replaced by the $400 'bump stock kit'.

With it, you're basically buying a 'spring mechanism' instead of a solid stock with no 'give' in teh semi-auto version. Allowing you to leverage the motion of the gun 'bouncing back' from your shoulder immediately following the natural recoil. So, along with your stationary finger barring the trigger (which keeps throwing itself at your finger due to the spring + shoulder + recoil) that motion becomes a rate of fire that greatly exceeds how fast you can 'pull the trigger yourself.

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 05:52 AM

34. Yes I got all that I'd just never seen how it worked

As you described, instead the shooter pulling the trigger with their finger the trigger bounces off the finger.

Now my question - how well would it work on a non-pistol grip version?

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:13 PM

16. Do DUers think sex ed in school encourages kids to have sex too?

Learning history must have made some DUers want to invade some countries and enslave some people.

Thanks for sharing this informative video. People should ask why this is legal, not why a video about it gets posted to DU.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:38 AM

28. +1! nt

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 09:06 AM

36. Exactly, Lion. Let's leave censorship and ignorance for conservatives to support.

My conservative mother thought Das Kapaital should be banned because it might "corrupt young minds."

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:43 PM

17. From this video...

I learned that a bump stock turns a semi-automatic AR-15 into what amounts to be a machine gun.

First, thanks for posting the video

Secondly, What are the laws on private citizens owning machine guns?


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Response to apkhgp (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 10:11 PM

20. Not sure on all the details, but machine guns are very restricted.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:58 PM

18. Wow just wow

That is the first time I have seen an actual demonstration of the bump stock. The guy was clearly caught off guard by how quickly the weapon fired. To clarify some earlier posters the weapon is still firing as a semiautomatic. However the recoil causes the bump stock to pull the trigger at a quicker rate. That piece of equipment needs to be made illegal and it must be removed from any weapons that it is attached to.

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Response to bpj62 (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 10:09 PM

19. The bump stock is the ultimate loophole for those that want an automatic.

It gets right around the law.

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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 03:27 AM

32. My understanding is that it does denigrate accuracy significantly vs. actual full auto ...

All the bouncing action is much harder to control ... basically makes it great for spray and pray firing into dispersed crowds like LV ... and not much else.

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #32)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 11:07 PM

40. You don't need accuracy when firing into a crowd

 

what you need is a high rate of fire not accuracy. as the LV massacre has proven a bump stock weapon can take out just as many people in a crowd as any regular fully automatic weapon and therefore is just as deadly.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 10:13 PM

21. Yep...these are supper dangerous...

 

needs banned quick...along with other platform modifications. You notice in the video he said that accuracy is compromised...but a way around that is a downward forward grip...

It is basically a handle at the end of the gun below the barrel and toward the front that helps stabilize the recoil....which increases accuracy.

There are a host of other modifications you can add to make it more accurate and tactical. Don't believe the gunners who tell you all of this is just for looks. Every single piece makes a difference and does something...thats why they are designed and customization can run in the 7000 to 10,000 range.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 10:46 PM

22. I hate videos of guns and people who smile after shooting a gun

BUT - thanks for the info - now I know what a bump stock is and how it functions.

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Response to packman (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 10:49 PM

23. Did you notice how surprised he was with the way the bump stock worked?

Even he didn't know what to expect from these devices.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:14 AM

26. Three major takeaways

1) The AR-15 was $1500. The bump stock was just under $500. To me that sounds like a lot of money, and we haven't got into bullets yet.
2) He was able to walk in to the store, have a background check, and walk out again with an assault rifle. I think this was actually something he stressed but did not comment on to keep people from arguing.
3) The bump stock made an enormous difference!

I get this dude was trying to keep things informational only. He still seemed really surprised by what the bump stock could do.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:37 AM

27. Interesting--and scary. The guy seems reasonable, but I can't help but wonder:

do these people who shoot for fun make sure to collect all those bullets? Or do they leave them lyign around and piling up.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #27)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:23 AM

30. That's why Obama had banned lead bullets

Because animals get lead poisoning, I think when they eat carcasses of animals that are shot. That was one of the first regulations that Dump undid, because it destroys freedom in 'Murica for the bullets to be made of a different metal.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #27)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 09:29 AM

37. A responsible sport shooter would pick up the shell casings

and never leave any garbage out in nature. Unfortunately there are many irresponsible shitheads also.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 04:11 AM

33. Uh oh. He said "clip" and "bullet." The gun nuts are going to have kittens.

I've been around guns on and off my whole life. People weren't always so militant about referring to a magazine as a clip or a semi-auto as an "auto" -- the semi was always a given.

Now everyone is a SEAL Team 6 wannabe know it all and they feel the need to regale us all with their superior firearms knowledge.


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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 02:26 AM

39. Very informative. Thank you.

How weapons of war and accessories like bump stocks are still legal in this country - especially given our recent history - is beyond me.

Of course, even if it were politically feasible to ban them, the fact remains that many gun humpers (the above gentleman excluded) would become far too violent if we were to enact a UK/Australian-style mandatory buyback - even with generous compensation.

We're basically being held hostage by these people.

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