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Pic Of The Moment: While Trump Loudly Trashes NATO, His North Korea "Deal" Quietly Falls Apart (Original Post) EarlG Jul 2018 OP
It was alll a bunch of horse poo Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #1
Hey Pompus can you say Red Potato...................... turbinetree Jul 2018 #2
Well there goes the Nobel Peace Prize! Yuge! Bigly! Initech Jul 2018 #3
So are faux, hammity et al. not fooled Jul 2018 #4
Well, at least we got back the remains of service members Fritz Walter Jul 2018 #5
Their parents are still waiting with baited breath. ...... Or maybe was that "no breath" Maraya1969 Jul 2018 #7
Pompeo backed off from his own negotiating strategy which induced the summit soryang Jul 2018 #6
In fairness to Un, there was a rumor that a Pompeo shaped potato Mc Mike Jul 2018 #8
Trump and Pompousassio fall short Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2018 #9
K&R Gothmog Jul 2018 #10
I dreamt I saw a Nobel peace prize with Don the Con's name on it sinkingfeeling Jul 2018 #11
The Orange POS Racerdog1 Jul 2018 #12
however, in order for something to fail apart, it had to be something first. Javaman Jul 2018 #13
Pompeo was a DICK when he represented Kansas--still is............. Bengus81 Jul 2018 #14

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
1. It was alll a bunch of horse poo
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:18 AM
Jul 2018

to get him by another black friday and the fear of Mueller. He's trying to make himself look indispensable and he's not. And never was.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
4. So are faux, hammity et al.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:48 AM
Jul 2018

gonna retract all the glowing propaganda they gave our Great Leader about the meeting when it was happening?

*crickets*




Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
7. Their parents are still waiting with baited breath. ...... Or maybe was that "no breath"
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:58 AM
Jul 2018

I'll join you

soryang

(3,299 posts)
6. Pompeo backed off from his own negotiating strategy which induced the summit
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:56 AM
Jul 2018

And returned to a hard line approach in the face of the storm of criticisms from the opposed interests in the US.

Allegedly a major failing of the talks was Pompeo's unresponsiveness to the proposal to have the US jointly declare an end to the Korean conflict on the anniversary of the Armistice. This would be a let down from the previous promise of "security guarantees," implied in Pompeo's CVIG formula. (Complete Verifiable Irreversible Guarantee of North Korean security.)

Some of the language in the official announcement from the North Korean foreign ministry is very similar to Kim Gae Kwan's apologia for Choi Son Hui published on May 24, 2018, which suggests that demands for unilateral nuclear disarmament from the US are a sensitive point for North Korea. ref: http://www.nkleadershipwatch.org/2018/05/25/kim-kye-gwan-issues-statement-on-us-dprk-summit/

On the other hand, North Korea backed off then and the summit went on. So Christopher Hill or whoever said it, was right, it's probably a negotiating tactic. It is also for domestic consumption in North Korea.

The North Korean foreign ministry statement reveals that the essential difference is still the same, the one bundle approach of the US, versus the step by step, reciprocal moves by both sides that the North Koreans want. However, the North should have taken a substantial step or steps after the US suspended military exercises. By unilaterally suspending the joint military exercises with South Korea, the US suggested implicitly that a tit for tat approach to building trust, and eliminating the nuclear threat could be managed. However, two things happened at the meeting in Pyongyang, Pompeo reverted to the CVID type approach, calling it FFVD, which is a distinction with only a nominal difference, and the North failed to reciprocate to the US South Korean suspension of military exercises, ironically criticizing it as "reversible." Pompeo's public statement in rebuttal of the gangster charge emphasized the one sided nature of the demand for denuclearization by the international community.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
8. In fairness to Un, there was a rumor that a Pompeo shaped potato
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 12:10 PM
Jul 2018

had manifested itself at that site.

sinkingfeeling

(51,445 posts)
11. I dreamt I saw a Nobel peace prize with Don the Con's name on it
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 01:01 PM
Jul 2018

fall from the sky and eaten by a fat pig.

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
13. however, in order for something to fail apart, it had to be something first.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 02:03 PM
Jul 2018

that "deal" was a big nothing for us from the beginning.

NK got everything they wanted; ergo: nothing fell apart for them.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
14. Pompeo was a DICK when he represented Kansas--still is.............
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 04:27 PM
Jul 2018

None of this is surprising...........

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