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Sanders Backers Win Major Reforms as DNC Votes to Limit Superdelegate Power (Original Post) Raphe M Aug 2018 OP
I wish people and groups would stop attacking my party. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #1
I think this is more about POTUS 2020 Raphe M Aug 2018 #2
In the words of the great ... zentrum Aug 2018 #3
Was Sanders there? How did he vote? George II Aug 2018 #12
It's considered a real win zentrum Aug 2018 #15
"It's considered a real win"....by whom? George II Aug 2018 #16
By the Democrats zentrum Aug 2018 #21
No he was not. nt sheshe2 Aug 2018 #20
:) More like tweaks to the superdelegate system, surely? Hortensis Aug 2018 #4
Hortensis, you are bringing facts to the table.. JHan Aug 2018 #7
Oh, I don't know. Sunlight's good not just for our health Hortensis Aug 2018 #8
All that sunlight is going to hurt some eyes in here.... ehrnst Aug 2018 #17
:) Only those that are open to it, Hortensis Aug 2018 #18
It's a beginning... Magoo48 Aug 2018 #5
lolol JHan Aug 2018 #6
This could actually help increase Democratic voter turnout. Which is a good thing. jalan48 Aug 2018 #9
? George II Aug 2018 #11
When the media reports the primary results which include Super Delegates it can create jalan48 Aug 2018 #13
I've been following primary and general election votes for a long time (30 yrs+?). To be honest.... George II Aug 2018 #14
Why do you think that they would assume that? ehrnst Aug 2018 #24
No time to watch the Whole video.... George II Aug 2018 #10
It was an overwhelming majority in favor. mysteryowl Aug 2018 #19
So when, exactly, DarleenMB Aug 2018 #22
This is an excellent video. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #23

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
1. I wish people and groups would stop attacking my party.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 02:16 PM
Aug 2018

I wish there was a SINGULAR focus on winning D seats period.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
3. In the words of the great ...
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 02:38 PM
Aug 2018

....Elizabeth Warren---one of our best Democrats---"I'm a Superdelegate and I don't believe in Superdelegates".

Thank you Bernie and head of the DNC, Tom Perez, for doing this.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
15. It's considered a real win
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 07:19 PM
Aug 2018

.....for "Our Revolution" which fought and organized to get rid of superdelegates.

Don't know if Bernie was there, but his supporters certainly called and sent emailes etc., in the usual way.

Dems know the tides are shifting or they would't have done it.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
21. By the Democrats
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 10:22 PM
Aug 2018

...who want to get rid of superdelegates, naturally. And since it was pushed hard by Our Revolution, surely they deserve some credit and had an effect. Giving credit where credit is due. If they had failed, it would have been a "real loss" by the same group. That's just how it works.

I understand it is not a win in your eyes.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. :) More like tweaks to the superdelegate system, surely?
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 02:41 PM
Aug 2018

There's been consideration of the need for further changes since the last ones, and here they are. Helped along, certainly, by the calls of this faction to eliminate the superdelegates altogether.

These overblown claims, third one I've seen, suggest they're not happy with the changes, which is too bad. It's unlikely this would have been done this year when we're battling the right for the future of our nation, so their efforts weren't for nothing, certainly.

Perhaps there's some residual anger fueling this. After all, the very people they hoped to strip all superdelegate power from are almost entirely the same colleagues who individually and as a group refused the trailing candidate's requests to use their power to make him the nominee.

Well, principle or personal, we might expect a try, try again at some point.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Oh, I don't know. Sunlight's good not just for our health
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:03 PM
Aug 2018

but also for illuminating the various maneuverings for power, and various other motivations as the case may be, in our political parties.

It clarifies enormously to realize the simple truth that those who seek to rule but don't represent a majority must find other means of winning.





Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. :) Only those that are open to it,
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 09:01 PM
Aug 2018

and they'll be fine.

Hopefully putting a close to this will help focus on what really matters right now. Like turning what is just the beginning of this into the end.





jalan48

(13,842 posts)
13. When the media reports the primary results which include Super Delegates it can create
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:07 PM
Aug 2018

the impression the contest is a done deal. Some voters might believe "Why should I vote, the decision has already been made by the Party insiders".

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. I've been following primary and general election votes for a long time (30 yrs+?). To be honest....
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:13 PM
Aug 2018

....I don't recall "the media" reporting superdelegates included with the pledged delegate results. That's difficult to do since many hadn't committed to a candidate at the time of his/her state's primary or caucus. It may have happened from time to time, but certainly wasn't a common occurrence.

I believe this is an urban myth or something people talk about even though it's not based in fact.

Have you anything that would disprove my observation?

Thanks.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
24. Why do you think that they would assume that?
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 06:13 PM
Aug 2018

Has that been your assumption for the period of time that they have been in existence?

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. No time to watch the Whole video....
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:58 PM
Aug 2018

Last edited Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:48 PM - Edit history (1)

what were the "gain(s)"?

By the way, I may be mistaken, but didn't Democracy Now endorse/support Jill Stein in the 2016 Presidential General Election?

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