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Kent State, May 4, 1970 ... (Original Post) marble falls May 2019 OP
If you can get CSNY "Four Way Street", get it. Live versions and they are heartfelt. Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #1
Good stuff. I remember how quickly it hit the air and how long it stayed on rotation at ... marble falls May 2019 #16
I forgot all about that album JohnnyRingo May 2019 #24
Yes, double live. One LP acoustic, one electric. Real name "4 Way Street". Extra CD tracks not great Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #25
It is still lillypaddle May 2019 #2
What surprised me... SergeStorms May 2019 #3
yeah. comes to mind when i hear claims the military protects our 'freedums' KG May 2019 #4
I was 12 years old when Kent State happened Ohioboy May 2019 #5
I was 18 and living in Akron. They bivouacked some of the National Guard in Bath on Rt 303 ... marble falls May 2019 #10
My alma mater. Ohiogal May 2019 #6
Something 67 rounds in less than two minutes. marble falls May 2019 #11
One of the Darkest Days in my life. pazzyanne May 2019 #7
What a horrible day. MarianJack May 2019 #8
I remember my dad and his friends gloating about it. marble falls May 2019 #12
My mom too. MarianJack May 2019 #14
One thing I've taught my kids: question authority. marble falls May 2019 #15
Most of Americans, even the parents of students at that college, were on the side of the Guard yaesu May 2019 #17
He even called for it at one of his hatefests. lastlib May 2019 #29
I was hitch hiking and had just crossed into Ohio safeinOhio May 2019 #9
Hitch hiking. I used it a lot around that time. marble falls May 2019 #13
And Jackson State, a few days later. raging moderate May 2019 #18
(two killed, twelve wounded. Still TOO f*ckin' many!) lastlib May 2019 #28
Most students killed weren't even part of the protesters but were going to & from classes. nt yaesu May 2019 #19
May 4th is now known as star wars day, hate to burst their fantasy bubble but I will remind them yaesu May 2019 #20
Good point! FailureToCommunicate May 2019 #26
I still cry. akraven May 2019 #21
How have you been? marble falls May 2019 #22
Thanx for posting JohnnyRingo May 2019 #23
Add this to the mix: lastlib May 2019 #27
Thank You for this Beautiful Tribute McKim May 2019 #30

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,938 posts)
1. If you can get CSNY "Four Way Street", get it. Live versions and they are heartfelt.
Sat May 4, 2019, 08:05 AM
May 2019
"Ohio" is a protest song and counterculture anthem written and composed by Neil Young in reaction to the Kent State shootings of May 4, 1970, and performed by Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.[1] It was released as a single, backed with Stephen Stills's "Find the Cost of Freedom", peaking at number 14 on the US Billboard Hot 100 and number 16 in Canada.[2] Although a live version of "Ohio" was included on the group's 1971 double album Four Way Street, the studio versions of both songs did not appear on an LP until the group's compilation So Far was released in 1974. The song also appeared on the Neil Young compilation albums Decade, released in 1977, and Greatest Hits, released in 2004.

The song also appears on Neil Young's Live at Massey Hall album, which he recorded in 1971 but did not release until 2007.

Recording

Young wrote the lyrics to "Ohio" after seeing the photos of the incident in Life Magazine.[3] On the evening that CSN&Y entered Record Plant Studios in Los Angeles, the song had already been rehearsed, and the quartet—with their new rhythm section of Calvin Samuels and Johnny Barbata—recorded it live in just a few takes. During the same session, they recorded the single's equally direct B-side, Stephen Stills's ode to the war's dead, "Find the Cost of Freedom."

The record was mastered with the participation of the four principals, rush-released by Atlantic and heard on the radio with only a few weeks' delay. (This was despite the group already having their hit song "Teach Your Children" on the charts at the time.) In his liner notes for the song on the Decade retrospective, Young termed the Kent State incident as 'probably the biggest lesson ever learned at an American place of learning' and reported that "David Crosby cried when we finished this take."[4] Indeed, Crosby can be heard keening "Four, why? Why did they die?" and "How many more?" in the fade.

According to the notes to Greatest Hits, it was recorded by Bill Halverson on May 21, 1970, at Record Plant Studio 3 in Hollywood.[5]
Lyrics and reaction

An article in the Guardian in 2010 describes the song as the 'greatest protest record' and 'the pinnacle of a very 1960s genre.' while also saying 'The revolution never came.' [6]

The lyrics help evoke the turbulent mood of horror, outrage, and shock in the wake of the shootings, especially the line "four dead in Ohio," repeated throughout the song. "Tin soldiers and Nixon coming" refers to the Kent State shootings where Ohio National Guardsmen shot and killed four students. Crosby once stated that Young keeping Nixon's name in the lyrics was "the bravest thing I ever heard." The American counterculture took the group as its own after this song, giving the four a status as leaders and spokesmen they would enjoy to a varying extent for the rest of the decade.[7]

After the single's release, it was banned from some AM radio stations because of the challenge to the Nixon Administration in the lyrics but received airplay on underground FM stations in larger cities and college towns. Today, the song receives regular airplay on classic rock stations. The song was selected as the 395th Greatest Song of All Time by Rolling Stone in December 2004.[8] In 2009, the song was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.[9]

marble falls

(56,996 posts)
16. Good stuff. I remember how quickly it hit the air and how long it stayed on rotation at ...
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:34 AM
May 2019

the stations I listened to: WNCR, WMMS.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
2. It is still
Sat May 4, 2019, 08:08 AM
May 2019

incredibly painful to remember this. Our government was killing our children. May we never have to witness such a thing again.

SergeStorms

(19,148 posts)
3. What surprised me...
Sat May 4, 2019, 08:14 AM
May 2019

was the speed with which 'Ohio' was written, recorded, and released. It seemed like only two weeks or so and the song was hitting every FM station in the country. For our younger members "FM" was a band on the radio dial which, at the time, was almost exclusively inhabited by Rock and Roll/Counter Culture stations. Strange, but true.

Ohioboy

(3,238 posts)
5. I was 12 years old when Kent State happened
Sat May 4, 2019, 08:29 AM
May 2019

I was a paper boy, and remember seeing that famous picture of the girl crying, and the student laying on the ground, over and over. Later, when the song American Pie came out there was a line in that song talking about Buddy Holly's death which said "with every paper I'd deliver...bad news on the door step". Every time I hear it I think of how I had delivered bad news about Kent State.

marble falls

(56,996 posts)
10. I was 18 and living in Akron. They bivouacked some of the National Guard in Bath on Rt 303 ...
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:18 AM
May 2019

a straight shot into Kent of about 15 miles.

Ohiogal

(31,895 posts)
6. My alma mater.
Sat May 4, 2019, 08:38 AM
May 2019

It always was a somber day there on May 4. I always attended the May 4 memorials when I was there. I was there in the mid 70s, so it was still fresh in our minds. The parking lot next to my dorm had a statue with bullet holes in it.

pazzyanne

(6,543 posts)
7. One of the Darkest Days in my life.
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:12 AM
May 2019

I was horrified to know that our troops (National Guard) were killing our fellow US citizens. I did not feel safe in my own country for several months after that. Since the National Guard is under the command of the states, hopefully this will not happen again. At least one can hope!

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
8. What a horrible day.
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:14 AM
May 2019

And I remember pro war right wingers thinking it was wonderful. Donnie boy probably wishes that he could have protesters shot, too.

RESIST!

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
17. Most of Americans, even the parents of students at that college, were on the side of the Guard
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:43 AM
May 2019

they saw demonstrations as a threat to the status quo, the same attitude got Nixon elected to a second term. The country lost its way just like they have today.

lastlib

(23,140 posts)
29. He even called for it at one of his hatefests.
Sat May 4, 2019, 08:40 PM
May 2019

I LOATHE the f*cker with the fire of a thousand suns!

safeinOhio

(32,632 posts)
9. I was hitch hiking and had just crossed into Ohio
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:17 AM
May 2019

from Indiana and was picked up by the police. Ended up letting me go, but I thought it strange at the time. Turned out Kent State was going on and with long hair and a guitar, I looked worth picking up.

raging moderate

(4,292 posts)
18. And Jackson State, a few days later.
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:48 AM
May 2019

Also four dead, as I recall. And one of them was not even involved in the demonstration, but was about a block away. He was a young new father, on his way home from work to his young wife and newborn child.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
20. May 4th is now known as star wars day, hate to burst their fantasy bubble but I will remind them
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:18 AM
May 2019

that there was another war going on 49 years ago, & it could very well happen again.

JohnnyRingo

(18,614 posts)
23. Thanx for posting
Sat May 4, 2019, 03:47 PM
May 2019

It's gotten so Star Wars Day has become more recognizable as the importance of today's date.
There are a lot of people who want this to be forgotten, including KSU and the govt.

Thanx again.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
30. Thank You for this Beautiful Tribute
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:09 PM
May 2019

Thank you for this beautiful tribute to the heroes of Kent State. Tears in my eyes. This event taught me never to trust our government or their wars of choice lies.

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