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Wed Jun 5, 2019, 10:47 PM

High Likelihood Human Civilization Coming to an End starting 2050

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The Breakthrough National Centre for Climate Restoration, a think-tank in Melbourne, Australia, describes climate change as "a near- to mid-term existential threat to human civilization" and sets out a plausible scenario of where business-as-usual could lead over the next 30 years.

Its paper argues that the potentially "extremely serious outcomes" of climate-related security threats are often far more probable than conventionally assumed, but almost impossible to quantify because they "fall outside the human experience of the last thousand years."

On our current trajectory, the report warns, "planetary and human systems [are] reaching a 'point of no return' by mid-century, in which the prospect of a largely uninhabitable Earth leads to the breakdown of nations and the international order."

https://news.slashdot.org/story/19/06/05/1554201/new-report-suggests-high-likelihood-of-human-civilization-coming-to-an-end-starting-in-2050?utm_source=feedburnerFaceBook&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29&utm_content=FaceBook&fbclid=IwAR271qIbqo9dOjCl3XENGD6upLKl2kI6y0lJ73grT_2ptb4gDdE-tiIn_go

There are no models anymore to predict the earth's dynamics of heat, food destruction and water.

No military can stop the billion who will migrate. Today's 65 million will jump to 150 - 200 million refugees.

Scale and speed are the only game in town when it comes to stopping climate change.


Start at the 2:00 minute point for Australia's assessment.

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Reply High Likelihood Human Civilization Coming to an End starting 2050 (Original post)
ancianita Jun 5 OP
Pachamama Jun 5 #1
dixiegrrrrl Jun 6 #17
applegrove Jun 5 #2
ancianita Jun 5 #3
at140 Jun 5 #4
customerserviceguy Jun 5 #6
ancianita Jun 5 #7
at140 Jun 5 #9
ancianita Jun 5 #16
at140 Jun 6 #23
applegrove Jun 5 #8
at140 Jun 5 #11
applegrove Jun 5 #12
customerserviceguy Jun 5 #5
rampartc Jun 5 #10
ancianita Jun 5 #13
Maven Jun 5 #14
ancianita Jun 5 #15
MFM008 Jun 6 #18
nuxvomica Jun 6 #19
ancianita Jun 6 #20
ancianita Jun 6 #21
ancianita Jun 6 #22
many a good man Jun 7 #24
ancianita Jun 7 #25

Response to ancianita (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 10:54 PM

1. Mother Earth (Pachamama) will survive regardless of her form....

This about human survival and the question is what we do now will determine how soon it comes...

The Achuar elders and shamans told me this 25 years ago....I only am observing that we humans aren't doing anything to stop or change course and it may come sooner....

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 02:08 AM

17. Earth day was created 50 years ago.


Rachel Carson, Paul Erlich ( the Population Bomb).
Did not take many years to realize out leaders had no interest in saving people..hell, they were throwing our men into SE Asia as fact as we could produce them.

The oil-igarchs with stolen wealth have been buying up water, land, and meat producing biz thinking they at least will have enough money to flee to some private island, or ranches in New Zealand, because they have massive greed as well as a lack of imagination what will happen when their private paradise collapses due to the climate changes they have ignored.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 10:54 PM

2. The right wing rich think they will be a rich uberclass then and that they

can fly out of danger. News for them is that the first thing to go in a climate crisis is the value of their money.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:00 PM

3. That's why they own their own planes, doctors, drugs, foodstuffs, water sources. I don't know where

they think they'll be safe, but yeah, they're still going to die.

If we don't work together, we'll die separately.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:01 PM

4. Humans are a resilient race...

If they survived without cell phones, automobiles, electricity, flush toilets, anti-biotics, pain pills, etc.,
I have a hunch humans will not perish from earth for 250,000 years at a minimum. Note none of those things we take for granted existed just 250 years ago, while humans have survived for a few million years.

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Response to at140 (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:03 PM

6. We are indeed

the most adaptable species in the history of the planet.

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Response to at140 (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:04 PM

7. You ignore the disappearance of food, water, shelter from 3 Celsius dynamics.

No past models of past Earth can guide our thinking about this future. There was no similar time.

I hope you get that.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:08 PM

9. I never under-estimate what humans can survive

Go visit Hiroshima. It was devastated by radio-active fallout from Nukes just 75 years or so ago.
Today it is a thriving shining modern bustling city.

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Response to at140 (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:54 PM

16. They had clean water access, help from the rest of the country, places to recover in. This is Earth.

It will not be the same at all. There will be no help systems from elsewhere. There will be no escape.

Any place humans will think to go, other humans will already have beaten them to it and used up all available natural resources that won't renew because Earth will be on its timeline of thousands of years ahead with no renewable resources in the heat of air, dead oceans and no water. It will slow roll restore, but we'll be gone.

Yours is a another form of climate denial here.

Read The Uninhabitable Earth by David Wallace-Wells and/or Falter by Bill McKibben.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 02:28 PM

23. Sorry, but I just celebrated my 79th bd

With the limited time I have left on this Earth, I am busy making the most of my remaining time as possible. And you will be happy to note that I have done my part in preserving the environment as best as I could. I always set the thermostat high in summer and as low as possible in winters. I drive a Chevy Spark which gives more mpg than any other gasoline powered car and I combine my trips to minimize mileage. And I always recycle carefully and avoid placing toxic materials in garbage.

My bet is the world will end (for humans) due to nuclear wars rather than any other reason. I was born and raised near Pakistan border and I have seen religious fanaticism first hand. Nuclear proliferation is already here.

Climate change denier ignore Earth's history over Billions of years. The last ice age was brutal. The Midwest was covered with several miles high Ice glaciers. When those were melted by the ensuing global warming, the largest body of fresh water on earth was formed which we call the Great Lakes. Yeah so climate change is going on for millions of years. I am convinced humans are not powerful enough to stop climate change. All we can do is do our individual responsibility to cause the least possible damage to the environment.

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Response to at140 (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:07 PM

8. When my granny died at 103, with her went all knowledge of farming

and living off the land. We are useless. It will take generations to discover all that we once knew.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:15 PM

11. Very true, now we have Big Agriculture

or corporations engaged in farming in a big way. Individual farmers are dwindling.
My own father took up farming after he retired from a civil service job in India. We had some of the best tasting vegetables and grains from the farm. I still remember puree's fried in home grown sesame oil. And the aroma of mangoes ripening wafted through the whole house. The mangoes I get at grocery stores here in Florida have almost no aroma.

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Response to at140 (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:22 PM

12. Oh amazing. I vacationed on a farm when I was a kid. Nothing like

fresh milk and eggs and veggies. The best food I've had. Then I went to Paris and their produce is very fresh. Not at all what we get in North America. Though stores are trying.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:02 PM

5. I remember the first Earth Day

way back in 1970. Predictions were that Earth would be a teeming mass of humanity by the year 2000 abounded. But, we managed to make it there almost 20 years ago.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:08 PM

10. high likelihood human civilization has already ended

and we survivors are scavenging the remains.

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Response to rampartc (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:24 PM

13. Only if we keep doing what we're doing. Nothing's in stone yet. But by 2 degrees C, you'll be right.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:32 PM

14. This is the greatest collective action problem the world has ever seen

And so far we are failing utterly to meet the challenge. At a time when we should be reducing our consumption and organizing around global institutions to eliminate carbon-based energy from our lives, the world is hooked on extreme capitalism and its greatest nations seem to be spurning old alliances and turning inward. Oh, and, we have a major political party in the U.S. that still refuses to acknowledge that the problem even exists! It's insanity.

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Response to Maven (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:40 PM

15. That can change with Inslee. Who can beat Trump in debate. Inslee is presidential. Everyone better

seriously consider him.

He's better than Biden in age, women's abortion issues(100% from NARAL), progressive leadership that makes Washington state #1 in all major categories.
He's a state executive.
He's got debate attitude, numbers and zingers.

Again. He's presidential.

Where is DU with Inslee.

I don't see the liberals and progressives here giving him a chance.

He might well be our last chance to lead a Western mobilization to stop the march to 2 degrees Celsius.

If we don't get deadly serious about the earth's dynamics and cascading disasters, our children and grandchildren will curse us.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 04:39 AM

18. This next election

Is about the survival of mankind and our fellow creatures.
And pray were not to late.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 05:19 AM

19. Global societal collapse by 2030

According to a well-researched paper by sustainability professor Jem Bendell discussed here:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vbwpdb/the-climate-change-paper-so-depressing-its-sending-people-to-therapy

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Response to nuxvomica (Reply #19)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 09:56 AM

20. Thank you.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 10:22 AM

22. More graphs from the Carbon Majors Report

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 04:16 PM

24. Who needs civilization?

Meet your new leader

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Response to many a good man (Reply #24)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 06:23 PM

25. Not Derrick Jensen and the DGR. I've followed them since before Occupy.

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