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Outrage after John Wayne's old interview resurfaces (Original Post) yuiyoshida Jun 2020 OP
Ethan Wayne's defense Pantagruel Jun 2020 #1
Native Americans were depicted as savages in his movies Major Nikon Jun 2020 #2
Ha ouija Jun 2020 #3
He was very big... SergeStorms Jun 2020 #5
More research Pantagruel Jun 2020 #8
Just one interview? How many times does someone need to say something before we believe? Merlot Jun 2020 #6
John Wayne did not like llashram Jun 2020 #4
Even John Ford Called Wayne out for taking a deferment during the war pecosbob Jun 2020 #7
 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
1. Ethan Wayne's defense
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:41 PM
Jun 2020

seems to be it was just one interview. It would be a bit unfair to focus only on one interview, maybe the participants didn't get along, maybe the author had an agenda, maybe JW was high. I don't know but give him at least the courtesy of a broader investigation?
My question was there any other evidence of JW's racism outside that interview?
Are there other interviews, mentions of racism in books of the times, biographies of contemporaries or writings of JW himself that would corroborate?

Major Nikon

(36,817 posts)
2. Native Americans were depicted as savages in his movies
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:41 PM
Jun 2020

Pretty much the universal theme in his westerns was Native Americans were good if they helped the white man, but otherwise they were murderous animals who raped, pillaged, and attacked white people at every opportunity. Certainly Wayne didn’t invent these myths, but he certainly perpetuated them. For that alone he shouldn’t be honored for anything.

SergeStorms

(19,123 posts)
5. He was very big...
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 11:31 PM
Jun 2020

in the "anti-communist" Hollywood scare/crusade as well. Marion Morrison was a racist piece of crap who just loved tearing others down in order to make himself look more "patriotic" and "clean". He helped destroy many people's lives in Hollywood. Everything they say about Morrison, and more, is true. Fuck Marion Morrison.

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
8. More research
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 10:23 AM
Jun 2020

yielded further RW leanings during the McCarthy scares, so basically you're right, fuck Marion.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
6. Just one interview? How many times does someone need to say something before we believe?
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:48 AM
Jun 2020

If someone tells you who they are, believe them. It isn't a mistake or needing more investigation.

Most people don't make racist statements just because they don't get along with their interviewer.

We owe john wayne no courtesy.

pecosbob

(7,532 posts)
7. Even John Ford Called Wayne out for taking a deferment during the war
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:49 AM
Jun 2020

Draft-dodger, racist, right wing blowhard.

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