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Trump says he could send as many as 75,000 federal agents to US cities
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Initech
(100,063 posts)Oh yeah this is much better. Fuck you MAGAs.
Magoo48
(4,705 posts)Every citizen of this country needs to know where our military stands.
dalton99a
(81,450 posts)magicarpet
(14,144 posts)Zero = 0 = Zero = 0 = Zero = 0....
Could they possibly be mostly Fascists ?
Gun humpers - humping Fascism - while fucking Democracy.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)a banana republic... with him being a tin pot dictator.
Martin Eden
(12,863 posts)Banana Republicans.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)and they are all grifters.. stealing money from every nook and cranny of our government. Lining their pockets with money from the American people..
calimary
(81,210 posts)llashram
(6,265 posts)American service personnel, trump is threatening to invade American cites and is willing to put thousands of troops in those Democratic-controlled cities. He's trying to manufacture a false flag operation to start a war with China or Iran or both. Did I say that trump is at war with the American people with real bloodshed happening? He's talking to the Patriot Act fascists to create a reason to put Democratic-controlled cities and states in a fascist lockdown. Did I mention trump is at war with the American people? It's getting real people and that sucker, his family and his Senate are trying to "dominate" the American people.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
..for the majority of the American people.
Peacetrain
(22,875 posts)and or make it so that the President Biden has so many issues on his hands to add to the clean up on aisle 4 he will have to do with this country.... this is not going to be an easy few years..
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)the presence of American troops on our own soil, in our own cities, this is highly illegal to use troops in this manner and ranks of the most despicable actions an American PINO can do against his own population.
rump will go down in flames and disgrace as he should. And where are the republican house and / or senate members, why aren't they saying NO to this proposed act? Where are they? Are they still in hiding?
I'd like to propose that if in fact, rump does this, then the democratically controlled House should not let one solitary bill pass through the House, and until rump sends these troops back to their home bases, that nothing should pass the House until such a point (troops sent home).
The troop movements are based upon claims that an insurrection is occurring in this Country, which is the further thing from being true as one can get.
louis-t
(23,292 posts)Beating up defenseless people is more his style.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)have been trying to find the picture since I saw it on another website where people were commenting about the Z-16. I wish I had a better picture.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213801125
pfitz59
(10,356 posts)"A photo is going viral on social media showing a federal agent holding a gun in Portland, Oregon while wearing what appears to be a patch that reads ZTI. Some people on social media are speculating that this is connected to a private company called ZTi. However, that is not accurate. The patch actually reads ZT1 and is part of an identifier system that federal agencies are using right now in Portland instead of placing an officers name on the uniform."
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)japple
(9,821 posts)My FB Friend James A. posted this
report from a resident of Portland OR. (his father-in-law)
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law. It is incredibly important that people know what is happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or spread misinformation.
Heres what he has observed in Portland over the past few days:
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse, and if youre 4 blocks away, you cant tell anything has been happening. There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning, nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing, chanting, and have used white walls to block whites who are trying to disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard (though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no riots. The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they werent honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he turned around and walked away. The line of mothers on Sunday was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands was shot in the head with a non-lethal bullet and will likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days, interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks, very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to protect it, but the Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real statue used to stand. Its sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct by our federal government. I don't care which political party you support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding principals of our nation.
KG
(28,751 posts)no reason to ever believe a single word he says.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)These pictures are chilling reminders of how it started.
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)We are traveling up to CT and she said, " Stay away from the major cities. They are rioting and looting and violently protesting.". No, they are not. My point, Fox set this all up. Make the low info's THINK this and Trump is the savior who swoops in. Astonishingly, he is literally inventing ALL of this. And more astonishing is that he deduces that his followers are not even capable of doing a simple Google search.
Ohioboy
(3,240 posts)Fox and talk radio make it sound like there are constant riots going on.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Ohioboy
(3,240 posts)Here is their chance to speak up against actual tyranny.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)if we make it that far.
I am beginning to believe the use of these troops is to escalate violence on the streets of America, so he can postpone the November election.