HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Video & Multimedia (Forum) » Let's talk about reunitin...

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 01:37 AM

Let's talk about reuniting the country and unity....

7 replies, 913 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 7 replies Author Time Post
Reply Let's talk about reuniting the country and unity.... (Original post)
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 OP
pat_k Nov 2020 #1
mahina Nov 2020 #2
pat_k Nov 2020 #4
mahina Nov 2020 #5
pat_k Nov 2020 #6
mahina Nov 2020 #7
Illumination Nov 2020 #3

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 02:19 AM

1. Spot on!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to pat_k (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 03:37 AM

2. Yeah but how

?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mahina (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:09 PM

4. I think. . .

On "our side" we generally do a terrible job of focusing on big themes and goals. We get mired in details. The focus is on the "doable," not the vision of what we can and should be as a people. The details do not engage.

Change requires a couple ingredients that too few of us have.

1. A belief that this is OUR government, and if we want something, we can make it happen.

2. A vision of what we can and should be grounded in moral principle and the aspirational values expressed in the Declaration of Independence. (Values we have allowed to be violated since those words were written. But, I do not believe that past is prolog. I think more of us can internalize the vision. And that’s the first step in the journey to ACTUALLY starting to build "a more perfect union." )

A vast majority believe political change is the responsibility of elected officials and "professionals." That is, “politics” is not for us "regular people." That sort of alienation from our own government sets things up for anger and resentment and apathy against this “alien” government thing that is failing us. It opens the door to the sort of demonization we are seeing. The truth, that WE are the real movers IF we choose, is the antidote.

I think we can do a better job of engaging our fellow citizens and rekindling belief in some of the fundamental values that drive change. We need to focus on building the foundation: a vision of what is possible and a belief in our power to acheive it.

Hope is contagious. We will never get “everyone" on board. But uniting everyone is not necessary. We just need to reach the “critical mass” necessary to get the ball rolling.

For example, in the fight for universal health care we have repeatedly allowed it to be shot down with "can’t afford” this or that detailed plan before building a consensus on basic principles -- principles that, when more generally accepted, demand implementation of universal health care. Where there is a will, there is a way. The principles drive the definition of the goals and then we can lobby for a plan that fulfills the goals – including a plan for paying for it. (Like a wealth tax – but that is grounded in another set of principles.).

Quite some time ago, I started building a little web site. I wasn't able to follow through with making connections and building it into the sort of activist "clearinghouse" I envisioned, but some of what I wrote I think conveys what I'm talking about.

http://www.greatergoodusa.com/issues/universal-health-care/


I'm sure you didn't expect such a verbose answer to a simple question. Hope your not sorry you asked.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to pat_k (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:56 PM

5. It's an excellent answer, worthy of an OP, aand I think I saw your website once, it's familiar.

Going back now.

About that OP, go post em, go post em, go!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mahina (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 11:23 PM

6. A lot of what is on that site. . .

. . . was worked out in posts here on DU. Going back quite some time.

I'll think about posting as an op. Any ideas for an eye catching subject line? I also need to shorten.

BTW, in case you ever need some inspiration, here are some quotes I like:

http://www.greatergoodusa.com/quotes/

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to pat_k (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 01:21 AM

7. Mahalo

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:33 AM

3. Understood that we definitely don't want to live in an evil, lying, corrupt, etc. Trump world.

 

However, we also don't want to live in a Pollyanna world either...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread