Planet of the Humans -- Biomass Fuel is Human Consumption of the Finite Earth From Above Ground

[ancianita]

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We have bamboozled ourselves. We must disavow our allegiance to green sustainability promoters.

Our descendants will curse us for not facing the truth -- that human growth on a finite planet is suicide.

If our descendants are to live through a 'good anthropocene,' it will only come because we make the necessary sacrifices ahead.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

1. S'why I always say the only real way out is negative population growth and transition

away from a 'perpetual growth' economic paradigm. These are #1 and #2 and they're so far above anything else it's not even funny.

A corollary here is that the world's population needs to massively tighten it's belt and lose the addiction to consumerism.

We are NOT rescuing ourselves via 'green energy' and 'electric vehicles' alone.

No way.

And we need to start now (40 years ago really), otherwise I promise you some 'Logan's Run' type shit is going to end up happening. Or Nuclear War.

[ancianita]

2. Indeed. The movie says it loud and clear -- we as a species must face our growth need as bs.

Or we as a species will leave our children with a wrecked planet.

That our environmental leaders have kept many energy realities from us means we have to find a way around them.

The documentary sets forth a truth that sets us free but will kick our collective asses until we adapt to it. We can figure this out but we won't be led by current environmentalists.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

3. Their hearts may be in the right place, esp. with regards to non-energy-production matters

I honestly think many of these environmental leaders lack the scientific acumen to understand why what they THINK ... is wrong ... when it comes to so-called 'renewables'.

When it comes to climate-change solutions, we need real scientists ... from all kinds of disciplines ... to lead, and to drag corporations, governments, and populations kicking and screaming along with them, as they're all told they don't get as many toys and luxuries as they had before.

Which, sadly ... ain't going to happen.

[ancianita]

4. Yes. But even when they have scientific acumen, they refuse to change their minds as their premises

are shown to be flawed. Gore says, "I get it. I get the logic." No he doesn't, and he doesn't give a shit. He, along with McKibben and the rest of them -- they're the Big Sellout to capitalism. They've been shown their flawed premise and now don't know where to take us.

Right near the end of the documentary, it's noted that capitalism HAS captured the green movement, and governments' misguided funding along with all that. Governments being well-intentioned but misguided are our biggest problem right now.

Now we have to disabuse our governments that ANY new deal will have to stop biomass shipping to Europe so the smug Europeans can present themselves as somehow morally superior in being 'independent' of fossil fuel.
That's the big lie they should know better than to promote, but being capitalists themselves, this whole green "shift" is the profiteers' shell game everywhere.

What we've (as in ALL "we," bottom to top) got to do is... stop digging this energy hole, no matter what the energy is called. That right there is where our inability to even see our own human inertia is the problem, bottom to top.

I have to sit down and think through my convenient 'enabling' ways. I need to learn the true meaning of frugality. Which is living within nature's means, not my economic means.

[Jetheels]

5. I watched this movie when it came out.

I liked it very much. It's nice to see it posted here since MM is not well liked here.

[ancianita]

6. Great. I missed it.

Maybe because MM has gotten bad reviews here, as you say. I've still wanted to give Moore a break because without Sicko there wouldn't have been an ACA.

Today I was really glad I got a heads up from MM on FB, and so I watched. It shifted everything I think about mitigating climate disasters now. I also signed up for his Substack podcasts... tryin' to help a nationally influential progressive out.

Thanks for your post.