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Ana Kasparian Debates Ben Shapiro: Highlights (Original Post) WhoIsNumberNone Oct 2021 OP
Capitalism: Winners picking whom the losers will be? czarjak Oct 2021 #1
You can never be rational with a myth believing religionist. magicguido Oct 2021 #2
Jenk is, as usual, intolerably and unnecessarily verbose. jaxexpat Oct 2021 #3
"...but didn't call out OTHER totalitarian regimes." appmanga Oct 2021 #4
Ben Shapiro Like Most "Conservatives" DAngelo136 Oct 2021 #5
Most of the video is cenk or Ben Shapiro talking ColinC Oct 2021 #6
good stuff Ollie Garkie Oct 2021 #7

jaxexpat

(6,815 posts)
3. Jenk is, as usual, intolerably and unnecessarily verbose.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 09:57 AM
Oct 2021

But he's usually right in his conclusions. I guess these two aspects of him work in tandem and as well as they do, limping along adequately, because he does his "deep" thinking out loud, to an audience. He "projectile opines" onto others since his internal audience long ago became deaf to contradiction.

I think it's a product of his childhood upbringing. Any Turkish persons out there who might offer insight?

DAngelo136

(265 posts)
5. Ben Shapiro Like Most "Conservatives"
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 11:12 AM
Oct 2021

Last edited Wed Oct 6, 2021, 11:57 AM - Edit history (1)

Engages in sophistry in order to "win" debates.
Their debate style is to overwhelm with words and word salad, change definitions ( like "freedom" ) and when trapped move the goal posts.
They also like to construct strawman arguments when pushed to the wall. The Chamber of Commerce likes to book these speakers in order to give intellectual "cover" to their ideologies that they lost in academia a long time ago; paid intellectual shills like Dinesh D'Souza, Shapiro and the late Milton Friedman are supported by right wing billionaires and think tanks to make the rounds to defend Capitalism. But you never see them debate with anybody with any debating skill lest they and their ideas are exposed for the shams that they are. When you examine their ideas, you see how empty and invalid they are.
Case in point: Milton Friedman. A hotshot debater in his time, you now see many writers taking his ideas apart (now that he's dead) and how they debunked his debating style: https://erik-engheim.medium.com/how-milton-friedman-was-wrong-but-still-won-arguments-2f3018dca607
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2013/06/26/the-origin-of-the-worlds-dumbest-idea-milton-friedman/?sh=60514354870e

If you notice, nobody is citing Friedman too much anymore.


Ollie Garkie

(186 posts)
7. good stuff
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 07:58 PM
Oct 2021

i was under the impression, though, that posting YT stuff was against the rules?
they're pretty hard on moderate democrats including Pelosi and sometimes Biden.

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