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The last words of George Orwell (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2021 OP
Men like George Orwell, Lewis Sinclair, Roger Zelazny, Isaac Asimov through Science Fiction, Fiction Escurumbele Oct 2021 #1
THIS, over and over, THIS bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #2
Orwell viewed the future as authoritarian, a world run by petty minds RVN VET71 Oct 2021 #3
I agree with your scenario I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2021 #4
Yes, and if only we could somehow witness the moment of their epiphany. RVN VET71 Oct 2021 #6
It has happened; with the q Qult qWacKers and their KKKult leader magicguido Oct 2021 #5
+1 2naSalit Oct 2021 #7

Escurumbele

(3,378 posts)
1. Men like George Orwell, Lewis Sinclair, Roger Zelazny, Isaac Asimov through Science Fiction, Fiction
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 08:33 PM
Oct 2021

have been warning us, but people do not read, and many when they do don't seem to not grasp the message in the story. Ray Bradbury has warned us too though "Fahrenheit 451", his warning seems to be realizing, we are so close to the intrusive technology as portrayed in that novel.

I remember watching "Avatar", the one with the blue people, and listening to the audience coming out of the theatre discussing about the effects, how sexy the blue women were, and so many superficial comments, but I never heard anyone (I am including many of my friends who also watched the movie) say anything about the message behind the movie, imperialism, disregard for people's cultures and way of living, military might and the idea that we can invade anyone to try to impose our way of life. That is why we are in such a mess, too much ignorance, too many artificial motivations in our lives, too much apathy.

I see the passion, whether fake or not, of the people in football games, tennis matches, and many others but zero passion for understanding the important things, like how do we really make our country better, why is it that the USA is NOT the best country in the world when it could be? Citizens have become fanatics, and that is going to be the bullet that kills Democracy, because fanatism is nothing but ignorance, and we have to face it, the USA is an ignorant country. Yes, we have gone to the moon, we have made amazing advances in almost every practice (medicine, physics, economics, etc.) but it is just a select few, the great majority know very little about anything that is not football, baseball, the new iPad, etc. We are in a very dangerous and sad point in the history of the country, if Democrats do not become aggressive at stopping what may come, which is what republicans continue to work on everyday to end Democracy, we will be in trouble.

republicans are following the blueprint that other countries left behind for dictators to know what to do, and when. trump is not the mastermind of all the chaos, he is an ignorant, but the people behind are not ignorant, they know what they are doing, and Putin is also helping out by pulling the strings on trump.

As I have pointed out in other blogs, trump must be silenced, and to do that is to not talk about him, ignore him completely. Talking about him distract us from looking at the correct picture, trump is just a clown, a decoy, he is not that dangerous at the end of the day, he must be silenced and we do that by ignoring him, by the media ignoring him. The media also needs to make sure they never refer to him as "president", just by his name.

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
3. Orwell viewed the future as authoritarian, a world run by petty minds
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:08 PM
Oct 2021

petty because they lacked intellectual depth or curiosity, petty because their sole interest was in dominating others. Huxley’s dystopia viewed a world that was coldly scientific, where individuals, controlled from the moment of fertility, had no desire to dominate but, rather, sought, and were aided by a benevolent state, to fit in. Either expresses the landing point of a possible future trajectory of civilization on a planet where there is order and reason. Granted, 1984 saw “reason” used deliberately to sustain power by keeping all but the few leaders of The Party in fear and ignorance, but it was reason, nevertheless.

But there is a third dystopian vision in the offing and that is the one, I submit, that we are actually facing as a species. We live in an overpopulated world, overpopulated by humans, that is. And the species continues to exacerbate the overpopulation. At what point does the ability of the planet to sustain that overpopulation break down, and with it the basis of all of the cultures and civilizations that the species has achieved? When will be the point of no return?

Probably we’ve already passed it, because even as the population continues to surge beyond Earth’s capacity to care for it, that same population, through its leaders, is killing the very Earth it depends on.

The result will be -- is already in many ways -- that more and more people will make it less and less possible for the machinery of government to stop the industries currently in the forefront of the destruction for continuing burning down rain forests, choking the atmosphere with poison, increasing the pace of desertification, of species extinction, of water scarcity and famine. As things worsen -- and worsen they have and will -- the structures of civilizations will fray at the edges and ultimately come unraveled, leaving the dying earth covered with desperate people, reduced to seeking only survival, people, billions of them, struggling for scarcer and scarcer food and water, the wealthiest secure for a while in enclaves of other wealthy people, fiefdoms carved out of the decay; the poorest (all the rest) struggling pathetically in a doomed downward spiral of existence.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
4. I agree with your scenario
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 12:36 AM
Oct 2021

I just hope the institutions, and corporations run by monsters in human suits who caused this Earth to be poisoned and die for power,profit and control, that may be hidden in thier enclaves realize they cannot escape the planet they destroyed.
I want them to face what thier greed and power seeking ,manipulation, predation, games,lies and abuse has wrought,personally as they finally die. When money cannot buy them water or food or anything. I want for them,desolation.

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
6. Yes, and if only we could somehow witness the moment of their epiphany.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 04:02 PM
Oct 2021

I find it depressing the media do not publish every story and report on every event with the certainty of this apocalypse in the background.

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