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TexasTowelie

(112,136 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:39 PM Sep 2022

Lavrov Walks Out Of U.N. Meeting As West Confronts Russia Over War In Ukraine - NBC News



Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov called Ukraine a “totalitarian nazi-like state” before walking out of a U.N. Security Council meeting. Prior to that, U.S. Secretary Blinken called upon assembly members to send a clear message to Russia to stop using nuclear threats in the war against Ukraine. NBC News’ Erin McLaughlin reports.
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Lavrov Walks Out Of U.N. Meeting As West Confronts Russia Over War In Ukraine - NBC News (Original Post) TexasTowelie Sep 2022 OP
Interesting. I heard that he was in the process of defecting. dhol82 Sep 2022 #1
Kick them out of UN SC SheltieLover Sep 2022 #2
Abso.fuckin.lutely!! Duppers Sep 2022 #4
Meanwhile, things in Russia are getting downright Kafkaesque Warpy Sep 2022 #3
He might be useful to the CIA and M16. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #7
I doubut he'd be useful beyond acting as a tour guide to offices in the Kremlin Warpy Sep 2022 #8
Depends on what he knows and how afraid of Putin he is. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #9
Considering the people who have been poisoned outside Russia Warpy Sep 2022 #10
Yes quite a few well placed Russians should be very afraid. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #11
Meanwhile, the young Russians are incredibly brave Warpy Sep 2022 #12
Yes they are. They know they face imprisonment, death, conscription. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #13
Good segment, TT. brer cat Sep 2022 #5
You're welcome. TexasTowelie Sep 2022 #6

Warpy

(111,251 posts)
3. Meanwhile, things in Russia are getting downright Kafkaesque
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:12 AM
Sep 2022

as their "partial" mobilization breaks all their own laws surrounding military callups. They're seemingly calling men at random, exempted men in college, in essential work, men who thought they'd aged out, men with families and businesses to run. No one knows who's going to get one of those callup letters and social media is full of videos of tearful family goodbyes, women and kids knowing they might never see their husband and father again.

It was announced today that Russia will never prevent men from traveling, so everybody knows what that means and a lot are trying to get out while they can.

Support for this war was always a mile wide and an inch deep, people willing to play the semantics game and stay out of trouble until trouble decided to find them. It has.

As for Lavrov defecting, I rather doubt it, he was one of Putin's original war cheerleaders and I don't know who'd take him.

Warpy

(111,251 posts)
8. I doubut he'd be useful beyond acting as a tour guide to offices in the Kremlin
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 09:42 AM
Sep 2022

and who occupied them. He might have a clue as to the number of Russian casualties.

Other than describing the population of the palace, which tends to be fluid if past palaces are any indication, he'd be useless.

If he'd feathered his own nest sufficiently and had the brains to stash it outside Russia, he'd already be in a fancy hotel in Abu Dhabi.

Warpy

(111,251 posts)
10. Considering the people who have been poisoned outside Russia
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:17 PM
Sep 2022

by GRU goons, I imagine he's utterly terrified.

Warpy

(111,251 posts)
12. Meanwhile, the young Russians are incredibly brave
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:25 PM
Sep 2022

as the ones who have been arrested for demonstrating are choosing 10 years in prison rather than going into the military to fight Putin's vicious vanity war.

Saw an on the street video of the St Petersburg protests, no problem until the demonstrators hit the square in front of the big cathedral, then a zillion cop cars swarmed in at them.

Irish_Dem

(46,957 posts)
13. Yes they are. They know they face imprisonment, death, conscription.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:30 PM
Sep 2022

This is what real bravery looks like.

Not the fake GOP/MAGA kind.

TexasTowelie

(112,136 posts)
6. You're welcome.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 06:10 AM
Sep 2022

Unfortunately, knowing that Lavrov and Putin are so obstinate doesn't provide any comfort that the war will be over soon.

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