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DON'T FALL FOR THE SCAM: Listen to this before getting Medigap for your Standard Medicare. (Original Post) egbertowillies Mar 2023 OP
Thanks for this. Deuxcents Mar 2023 #1
Call your local Council on Aging. They will give you prices for gap ins down to the penny, by SheltieLover Mar 2023 #2
Great feedback, thanks for sharing nt. Pluvious Mar 2023 #5
Yw! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #10
Thanks for sharing jmbar2 Mar 2023 #9
Glad you find it of interest. SheltieLover Mar 2023 #12
Ty. On my list of things to do Deuxcents Mar 2023 #14
Kind of simple. Just get cheapest Medigap F/G NoRethugFriends Mar 2023 #16
Let me get this right; Medigap is a scam & Medicare Advantage is a scam ? MichMan Mar 2023 #3
I understand fear of privatized insurance, but yes, I absolutely need the additional 20% coverage Lettuce Be Mar 2023 #11
My gap policy is not a scam & it's only $132/mo. SheltieLover Mar 2023 #13
Rather unclear video NoRethugFriends Mar 2023 #4
Yes - cilla4progress Mar 2023 #8
Medicare Advantage is the scam. whfinlay Mar 2023 #6
Rethuglicans have always been Bottom Feeders; preying on the Sick and Weak for Profit. MagaSmash Mar 2023 #7
Since the insurance corporations are scamming Medigap and MA, choosing one over the other in2herbs Mar 2023 #15
I just got a bill from a provider from 2021. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #17

Deuxcents

(16,085 posts)
1. Thanks for this.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 12:38 PM
Mar 2023

I’ll be losing my employer backed health care in 2024 n they will only offer United Advantage. For the first time in my adult life, I’ll need to get fully educated as I refuse Advantage.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
2. Call your local Council on Aging. They will give you prices for gap ins down to the penny, by
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 12:43 PM
Mar 2023

Provider.

Prices vary widely & each Plan level of gap insurance is required to offer identical coverage.

I chose the highest level of gap ins offered, even includes deductible.

Some providers were charging nearly $300/mo for this!

Farm Bureau ins came in at $115/month.

And my policy for gap is NOT a scam!

Avoid Advantage plans! Providers must be "in network" & many hospitals do not accept Advantage plans.

And if you have Advantage & want to switch to normal Medicare, you might be required to pass a physical!

MichMan

(11,868 posts)
3. Let me get this right; Medigap is a scam & Medicare Advantage is a scam ?
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 12:54 PM
Mar 2023

Thart means the only non scam option is standard Medicare that pays 80% leaving the recipient to cover the remaining 20% deductible.

Hope no one needs any expensive care then, as they will need to pay thousands and tens of thousands of dollars out of pocket.

Lettuce Be

(2,336 posts)
11. I understand fear of privatized insurance, but yes, I absolutely need the additional 20% coverage
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 02:02 PM
Mar 2023

I flat-out refuse to give my estate to the medical establishment so yes, I have a private supplement. Medicare also has upper limits, my supplement does not. For now, I'm sticking with the supplement. I also do not travel, so that's not a consideration for me.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
13. My gap policy is not a scam & it's only $132/mo.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 02:06 PM
Mar 2023

Covers everything Medicare doesn't pay, including my annual deductible.

cilla4progress

(24,718 posts)
8. Yes -
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:52 PM
Mar 2023

and I did it with assistance from a free RSVP program (national) volunteer.

Glad we had gap coverage along with Medicare. Recent post-age 65 injuries would have devastated our funds without it!

whfinlay

(14 posts)
6. Medicare Advantage is the scam.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:18 PM
Mar 2023

MBA's will be deciding what care you get, doctors can pull out of the network anytime, but you will have to wait for the 10/15 to 12/7 open enrollment period. Medigap coverage with no health question happens when you first enroll in Medicare. Medigap also known as Supplemental Medicare insurance was standardized in 2011 and all coverage is the same all across the country. Plan G is a Plan G, Plan N is a Plan N no matter the carrier. I am a Medicare sales agent and have a MBA degree.

MagaSmash

(5,312 posts)
7. Rethuglicans have always been Bottom Feeders; preying on the Sick and Weak for Profit.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:18 PM
Mar 2023

Like Rick Scott; one of the Worst.

in2herbs

(2,944 posts)
15. Since the insurance corporations are scamming Medigap and MA, choosing one over the other
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 02:38 PM
Mar 2023

will not affect their bottom line. The care the dr. provides is the same. When sitting in the doctor's office waiting for your appointment I can bet that the patients are a mixed bag of Medigap and MA insurance holders.

This situation has been obvious for years and Congress has ignored it and/or only paid lip service.

Why bother to elect Ds to Congress when they don't flex enough muscle when they have the power to reign in this scam and others?

It will take prosecuting and jailing corporate executives for this theft before any change will occur. But that is unlikely to happen.

The insurance companies are shifting to scamming those with Medigap policies because of the exposure of their scams with MA.

When Medigap premiums are too expensive what alternative will there be for coverage but MA?

Congress needs to fix the rules before corporations will change their behavior.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
17. I just got a bill from a provider from 2021.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 03:59 PM
Mar 2023

I called and they explained that I owed what Medicare did not pay. I said you have my secondary insurance, you have billed them in the past. Then I get double talk. They are just trying to double dip. Another scam.

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