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Related: About this forumBig name retail stores now targeted by gangs in organized hits: Investigators Nightline
Doesn't look like some hungry people who want some food. This is organized crime.
Uncle Joe
(58,298 posts)of great, dysfunctional wealth disparity.
This is societal deja vu.
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Because of the banking crisis, thousands of small businesspeople failed because they could not secure loans. Thousands more went bankrupt because they had lost their working capital in the stock market crash. A heavy burden of consumer debt also weakened the economy. Consumers built up an unmanageable amount of consumer installment and mortgage debt, taking out loans to buy cars, appliances, and homes in the suburbs. To repay these loans, consumers cut back sharply on discretionary spending. Drops in consumer spending led inevitably to reductions in production and worker layoffs. Unemployed workers then spent less and the cycle repeated itself.
A poor distribution of income compounded the country's economic problems. During the 1920s, there was a pronounced shift in wealth and income toward the very rich. Between 1919 and 1929, the share of income received by the wealthiest one percent of Americans rose from 12 percent to 19 percent, while the share received by the richest five percent jumped from 24 percent to 34 percent. Over the same period, the poorest 93 percent of the non-farm population actually saw its disposable income fall. Because the rich tend to spend a high proportion of their income on luxuries, such as large cars, entertainment, and tourism, and save a disproportionately large share of their income, there was insufficient demand to keep employment and investment at a high level.
Even before the onset of the Depression, business investment had begun to decline. Residential construction boomed between 1924 and 1927, but in 1929 housing starts fell to less than half the 1924 level. A major reason for the depressed housing market was the 1924 immigration law that had restricted foreign immigration. Soaring inventories also led businesses to reduce investment and production. During the mid-1920s, manufacturers expanded their production capacity and built up excessive inventories. At the decade's end they cut back sharply, directing their surplus funds into stock market speculation.
The Federal Reserve, the nation's central bank, played a critical, if inadvertent, role in weakening the economy. In an effort to curb stock market speculation, the Federal Reserve slowed the growth of the money supply, then allowed the money supply to fall dramatically after the stock market crash, producing a wrenching "liquidity crisis." Consumers found themselves unable to repay loans, while businesses did not have the capital to finance business operations. Instead of actively stimulating the economy by cutting interest rates and expanding the money supply--the way monetary authorities fight recessions today--the Federal Reserve allowed the country's money supply to decline by 27 percent between 1929 and 1933.
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https://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=2&psid=3432#:~:text=During%20the%201920s%2C%20there%20was,24%20percent%20to%2034%20percent.
When there is that much wealth and income disparity society starts fraying at the edges.
Policies have consequences
Thanks for the thread IronLionZion
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)Organized criminals have always been stealing. Back in the day they would rob trucks, trains, and other cargo transports. Now it's retail stores on a large scale.
Uncle Joe
(58,298 posts)experiencing the greatest wealth and income disparity since the 1920s.
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Shared hardship even collectively facing death fosters community. Read the stories from Holocaust survivors or listen to the stories coming out of Ukraine today.
This is not to romanticize poverty; it is tough and crime is a problem in barrios and slums around the world. But crime isnt sweeping the cities of Europe, Japan, South Korea or Taiwan the way it is American cities because in those countries the very wealthy are appropriately taxed and therefore average people are still well within the parameters of the middle class.
Their social contract is largely intact. There are exceptions, and they produce a criminal political class fascists as we are seeing right now in Sweden and Italy in response to those countries taking in more refugees than they can reasonably assimilate, but that is a separate argument for another day.
Research published in the Oxford Economic Papers in 2014 found that not only does inequality cause increases in crime (including violent crime), but the main variable is peoples perception of inequality: When the morbidly rich are conspicuous in their consumption, crime explodes faster than when they are discreet.
Using variation within U.S. states over time, we document a robust association between the distribution of conspicuous consumption and violent crime, authors Daniel and Joan Hicks noted.
A 2000 study published in The Review of Economics and Statistics (Harvard/MIT) came to the same conclusion: inequality causes crime, not just poverty.
The World Economic Forum published a paper in 2014 looked at the relationship between inequality and crime in Mexico:
Our key finding is that, in fact, municipalities with lower inequality saw lower rates of crime, the authors write. In other words, while the overall national data reveals an apparent paradox; broken down by smaller geographical regions, the paradox does not hold less economic disparity does lead to less crime.
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https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/featured/tearing-nation-apart-americans-fail-understand-crime-connected-inequality/#:~:text=Research%20published%20in%20the%20Oxford,than%20when%20they%20are%20discreet.
keithbvadu2
(36,673 posts)Haggis 4 Breakfast
(1,453 posts)And they should be dealt with like rabid dogs.
ret5hd
(20,482 posts)Haggis 4 Breakfast
(1,453 posts)These are highly organized gangs of thieves (who plot and strategize on the Internet), who have NO compunction about killing people that get in their way. That's first degree murder.
The figures on these gang loots are staggering. The amounts of stolen property are huge. The cost of this is in the billions. While these thugs are stealing from Home Depot and others, that cost is being turned back on you and I and everyone else in America. Then these corporations have their insurance hiked. These costs have got to be absorbed somewhere. It all rolls downhill, mate.
And this report is just the first real coverage I've seen on this. It's been going on for some time, but now the big media is paying attention.
And we're paying for all of it.
ret5hd
(20,482 posts)It guides me (us?) towards solutions to much larger problems. Study the chart below and see if you agree!!!
Haggis 4 Breakfast
(1,453 posts)ret5hd
(20,482 posts)I figure a few dozen examples and we could get the problem down to about the level of the problem you are concerned with.
You on board?
Wingus Dingus
(8,052 posts)Not put to death, of course, because I don't believe in the death penalty...but put away until they can't even remember the shit they stole, absolutely.
Fullduplexxx
(7,846 posts)These store are gonna need an armed security force
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)plenty of folks are packing guns these days.