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NRA says it is 'prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again'
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boston bean
(36,218 posts)I assume by creating and posting this pic, you find their activism for more guns reprehensible.
TrollBuster9090
(5,953 posts)As I mentioned below, we have only four tools available to us:
1. Mock their talking points, and make them look ridiculous, before they even have a chance to utter them.
2. Take back control of the language by calling for "gun safety laws" rather than "gun control laws" or "gun regulations."
3. Expose the tricks that they are about to attempt. The biggest one being to call for a VOLUNTARY ban on these weapons by the gun industry. By avoiding legislation, the gun makers will be able to lift their voluntary ban a year from now when everybody has forgotten about this.
4. WARN any Democratic politicians who would EMBRACE the trick (point 3) knowing full well that it's a trick. I can envision more than a few Blue Dog Democrats supporting a voluntary moratorium on the manufacture of assault weapons by the gun lobby, knowing full well that they're just going to lift it later, and resume selling these damned things.
fightthegoodfightnow
(7,042 posts)LOL
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)If only the principal was packing.
My thoughts - yeah that would be good, we'd end up with some wild west shootout.
I know that most gun owners have some understanding of how to use their guns. But when the adrenaline is rushing and you're making a last minute 'what do I do' response - the desired outcome might not actually happen.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)has been:
So, instead of the principle packing as well, how about just taking those weapons out of the equation all together? Why is the answer to arm others? Which is really better? Have both persons armed, or have both persons disarmed? Furthermore, what is your answer going to be when one principal, now "armed" as per your desire accidentally leaves their arm where a student gets a hold of it and kills class mates? In 2009-2010 there were 98,817 registered public schools (not even counting the private). That's relying on 98,817 persons to be your idyllic responsible gun owner. What will your answer be when an angry parent attacks a principal, takes the gun and uses it on the principal or others? Will you THEN be willing to ban these machines that are only good for killing?
I've reached my breaking point of accepting 250 year old constitutional doctrine on this issue. We're not talking muskets on a homestead anymore. If you want your 2nd amendment, as written, and as intended, then move out of my city, or any city in civilization. Carve yourself out a chunk of homestead.. and then you can have your cherished fucking musket."
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)And hello, I have not met you before, my name is Gracie. You make all the sense in the world.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)I've been on DU for years, only occaisonally post. Most of the time I come here to gather information for "ammo" to use against conservatives on political battleground chatboards (ones that are politically themed, but aren't primarily Democrat or Republican).
When I do post, it's usually when some element of a thread really strikes me.
progressoid
(49,945 posts)Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)we don't stop them.
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)people that promoted the gun problem here.
TrollBuster9090
(5,953 posts)thus avoiding legislation, and allowing the manufacturers to then LIFT their own self-imposed ban a year or so from now when everybody has forgotten about this.
Our job will be to A) EXPOSE that trick before they even get a chance to TRY IT, and B) SMACK DOWN any Democratic politicians who EMBRACE the idea (knowing damned well that it's just a trick).
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)to hold cake raffles throughout the nation. Because no matter how many times you propel a cake at someone, the cake simply won't kill them.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I read an article that said 74 percent of their membership thought the NRA had their head up their ass WRT assault weapons...maybe they're buying a clue?
I won't hold my breath, but one never knows.
Grins
(7,195 posts)'Ya think..?
TrollBuster9090
(5,953 posts)And not like THIS:
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,953 posts)calimary
(81,110 posts)last campaign. More meaningful contributions to their pet congresscritters, senators, governors, and state legislators.
"To make sure this never happens again." Yep - we can't have this tide in public opinion suddenly turning against us!" Gotta nip THAT one in the bud, 'eh?
patrice
(47,992 posts)countryjake
(8,554 posts)Nice, Earl, and thank you!
K&R!
Flabbergasted
(7,826 posts)no matter what they say.
TrollBuster9090
(5,953 posts)As I mentioned in my post over here (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022032207) they know that they're on the ropes, and we've already MOCKED that potential 'solution' here and just about everywhere else.
The NRA has known all along that there will eventually be one massacre too many, and the "the solution is MORE GUNS" bullshit will have gotten so stale that they can't use it anymore.
The next phase of their plan will be to call on the gun manufacturers to impose a VOLUNTARY ban on the production of these weapons. That way they can lift their own self imposed ban a year from now when everybody has forgotten about this.
WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THAT TRICK, BEFORE IT EVER GETS OFF THE GROUND, by TALKING ABOUT IT. So that when they actually try to make it fly, it will already have been exposed as a trick.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)BainsBane
(53,012 posts)rather than dealing with guns?
RyanThomas
(23 posts)Various conservative people I have seen have settled on blaming the ACLU for defending the rights of citizens against a state bill that would enable the government of the area to, in the words of the news service where I saw it:
Had the AOT bill been passed, it would have given the state the right to institutionalize a person who is mentally ill for treatment if the state has enough evidence to believe that the person could be a danger to himself or the community.
It's ironic how their "Small government principles" fly out the window when a chance to blame civil liberties organizations exists, or to conduct damage control on their gun position.
http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012/12/17/connecticut-mental-health-bill-defeated-months-before-deadly-school-shooting/
BainsBane
(53,012 posts)That someone can be put in a psych ward if determined they are a threat to themselves or others. It is generally for short periods of time, from three to seven days. The laws vary someone by state. Generally the issue is suicide, not harm to others. If someone does hurt another person, they wind up in the criminal justice system.
Naturally the right will scapegoat, just like gun proponents on DU do. It's a distraction to keep people from doing anything about the real cause--gun proliferation.
Beartracks
(12,797 posts)Because increasing religion and firepower in a confined space has always produced positive results, just like in the Middle East!
( <-- for the sarcasm-impaired)
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Deep13
(39,154 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)I am a gun owner the NRA never spoke for me.