Pic Of The Moment: House Votes For Sandy Relief

[EarlG]

House Passes Sandy Bill -- 67 vote against it (Paul Ryan voted against it and list of NOs)

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[samsingh]

1. he is a disgrace

[AgingAmerican]

4. Sparky the wonder boy

Rides again.

Math is to Sparky what sunlight is to a Vampire.

[ohiosmith]

64. This post was alerted on! Tick Tock!

[JoePhilly]

2. Some one should Google map their districts.

[MADem]

10. Name 'em and shame 'em! nt

[JoePhilly]

12. In another thread, some one found just such a google map!!! see here ...

http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/113/house/1/7

[susanr516]

27. Randy Weber voted no????

He's the teabagger representing TX CD 14--which includes GALVESTON ISLAND.



At least my bat guano crazy Congressman Farenthold was smart enough to vote yes (the 27th district includes Corpus Christi and the north part of Padre Island.)

[LibDemAlways]

3. Proof positive that rich Repukes live in an alternate

universe - where everyone has money to fix any problem. This was brought home to me when my father-in-law died and a friend I had grown up with who came from a wealthy family warned me about the estate tax. She simply assumed that he left a bundle. Nothing could have been further from the truth.

The R's who voted no are either sadistic cruel bastards or do not live in the real world - or some combination thereof.

[glowing]

17. How would they even have a clue?

Their entire lives are insulated from reality from the time they are born, through their entire private schooling lives, and to the job that they practically "inherit" because of who they are and whom they were born from.

They are really quite clueless. And why would they feel particularly invested in paying taxes? They don't get how they have money or the concept of a consumer based economy that they and their peers have helped to perpetuate by offshoring jobs that pay a decent living to people ringing up cash registers. Property taxes only help to keep people out of their communities, but they don't want to pay too much because they don't utilize public schools. They don't feel it's fair to give money to the govt because someone has died, they feel they are entitled to their inheritance and all the "work" that supposedly went into investing into the right hedge funds and stocks.

The top % of this country is more than clueless about the conditions of poverty in this country. They will donate money, travel to Africa and other poor nations, have extravagant parties/ fundraisers for those poor starving children in foreign countries, yet when they are asked to pay taxes to support the social needs of the poor and the children in this country, the attitude about poor people in this country is that they are moochers and that they spent a lot of time making mistakes in their lives to make them poor and destitute because America is a capitalistic empire that allows anyone to "make" it. If they don't make it, it's the poor people's fault on choosing certain paths in their lives. They were born on third base and think they started at the plate just like everyone else. Clueless, heartless, insulated, assholes for the most part. Hoarding money they clearly don't need because they heard that poor women living in blighted areas just continue to have children to collect welfare. They don't even understand that welfare has been thoroughly reformed and cannot be "gamed" in some crazy fashion.

It would be really great if we could take all of these wealthy people, congress, etc and put them into a housing project to live for a month with the amount that a typical poor person would get for aid from the govt, and see how long it took before they realized that their thoughts and experiences are so far off the grid of what most Americans are living, they might actually grow a heart, empathy, and get a clue. However, we cannot force anyone in this country to go and experience what poor feels like, looks like, and even smells like. The only thing the rest of us can try to do is use our massive amount of numbers to force a more fair and equitable distribution of "wealth" in this country.

I don't know that the "wave" will come from us. I almost think that countries like India and China may lead a revolution faster. They have many people and many people being used and abused and poor enough to be desperate enough to forcefully push for changes. There are still to many in this country that are on the cusp of working poor, lower middle class and middle income middle class that are holding onto what they have because they know that any further down the rung on the ladder will land them into the poor pile, and it's continuing to happen year after year.

"Main st" America is still experiencing a depression like existence. And it's nearly impossible to work one's way up into prosperity because those companies and those jobs don't exist all that much; along with the saddling debt of schooling debt that young people are amassing for a chance at a better life, that is not really coming after graduation.

It would be nice if we weren't hearing "cut" and "deficit is the most important issue", because really, we should be spending money on infrastructure, education, and research. Also, we aren't much of a society without arts and music, so we should have a healthy dose of funding people who make the world seem a little brighter sometimes. Most people would like to see military spending cut, money spent on schools, money spent on infrastructure, and money spent on going "green". Most would like to live life with some basic assurances of having a home, nutritious food, clean air/ water/ environment, health care that won't bleed you dry, and freedom to have time to do what one wants with their loved one's and their friends. There is no good reason that we should have to work longer and harder to make a living, never have enough time or money for a vacation, or miss out on so many important moments of life because our world is held hostage by wealthy, incompetent, self-important boobs. We only have one life to live, and most aren't able to "live".

[FirstLight]

28. great rant! should be an OP...

But then again, we already know this, don't we?

...the idea of putting these assholes into a poverty situation to clue them in is a great idea. But the catch is that they would KNOW they were okay and 'got out' in time...
The difference in REAL poverty is that there's no safety hatch, there's no OUT...it lasts a lifetime and alters your behavior over time. (makes us victims of LIFE...). If I can't pay my utilities one month, I'd better figure out the hustle and pay them something the next month, or get shut off. run out of food stamps? well I'd better be saving cans & bottles for some extra cash. And yea, there's plenty of days I have to put the kids on the bus an hour early because I can't afford to drive them... Are these "first world problems" ? I don't know.. I try not to complain too much. I personally say often that we have what we "need" because we have food in the pantry and warm beds to sleep in and we are safe from my ex... but yes, we could definitely do better.

[marions ghost]

65. "Use our numbers to force a fair distribution of wealth"

--yes that is the only way, as it has been from the beginning of civilization...

To expect the rich to do anything but squeeze those who are "beneath" them is unrealistic. They really DO NOT get it. They do not have the wisdom to know that a society where the top 2% takes all the wealth generated by others will not survive in the long run.

Thanks for your excellent post.

[freshwest]

5. But, but... There's no difference between the two parties! The internet and teevee peeps told me so!

[SunSeeker]

6. LOL!

[K8-EEE]

7. "IT HAPPENS ON BOTH SIDES!" Luke Russert sez! nt

[SunSeeker]

13. I agree with Pelosi.

That little turd is OFFENSIVE.

[xtraxritical]

23. I dunno in So. Cal. Duncan Hunter, Daryly Issa and Ken Calvert all voted Yes. I was stunned.

[SunSeeker]

25. What don't you know? That we have Repukes in So. Cal.?

[xtraxritical]

41. You might notice that I replied to "it happens on both sides" and said I was shocked

at the way these diehard conservative in California voted. They voted yes.

[SunSeeker]

46. They're all Repukes. The fact that they're from CA does not temper them.

And Issa is among the worst of the worst right wing Republicans ("conservatives" as you diplomatically call them) that there are. Being from a blue state does not and never has tempered him one bit. He's in a very red district.

[xtraxritical]

47. You're really excitable, get some decafe.

I'll say no more. If you want to keep blathering here fine.

[SunSeeker]

48. Um, if you don't want people "blathering" about your comment, don't post it on a discussion thread.

[RoverSuswade]

45. earth

quakes?

[MADem]

11. Oh, the cognitive dissonance!

[Fire Walk With Me]

59. When you examine the utter lack of regulation or punishment of wall street and the banks

especially after the "bailout" theft, a lack of oversight regarding the illegal foreclosure mill run by local and foreign banks (robosigning has been known about for over two years), banks stifling investigation into foreclosures, and a genuine unwillingness among other things for either party to even breath a bad word against the endless war budget of the military industrial complex, much less making it simply stop, or in regards to the continuing neocon 9/11 power grab, which includes the hilariously named "patriot act", TSA, DHS, the HR347 "anti-Occupy/protesting" law, NDAA with its indefinite detention of US citizens without trial or representation, the warrantless wiretapping FISA law...and the 2013 versions of the NDAA and FISA were signed into a years' extension just this week. Also, drones drones drones. 64 drone bases planned inside the US, drone sales to law enforcement, a creeping police state, 7,400+ Occupiers arrested and beaten with nary a whisper from the white house...

Or even to stop the simple issue of the Citizens United ruling, which allows corporations and the rich to spend unlimited amounts of money to influence elections and lobby elected officials. Note that Mussolini called Fascism "the merger of state and corporation". We are now a Fascist country under his definition, and elected officials aren't doing anything to change this. Or to even reinstate the bank regulation of Glass Steagall.

Who run Bartertown? Wall Street run Bartertown. Neither party are doing anything to stop the man behind the curtain. Meanwhile, Goldman Sachs have installed officials in office in Italy and Greece through the social engineering/theft process called "austerity". This is a Trend, and it is not one friendly to the people of this country, of the world.

[UCmeNdc]

8. 67 Republicans vote against Rebuilding NY and NJ.....

Let their cities lay in waste and ruin........

[ladym55]

19. Especially when you see the votes from states like Florida and Louisiana

Hey, gang, seems to me that YOU have gotten federal help over and over when hurricanes hit your shores!!! So why do you shaft the people of New York and New Jersey?

[Crowman1979]

9. The only time these teabagging Rethugs have seen bootstraps would be at an S&M club.

[Indykatie]

14. It's Shit Like This That is Killing the Repub Party in the Northeast

I hope all the folks who vote for republicans in these states are watching and will vote accordingly in the future both with their pocketbook and ballot.

[freshwest]

18. Keep bringing it up all through 2014 or some will forget. Some less harmed may, others won't.

The GOP should not be allowed to gloss over this. One of the confusing things is the greater support that Christie is getting, in a way. Part of it is quite understandable, he seems to care.

But his philosophy of governance was shown in Tampa, his disregard for the people as a whole by supporting Romney in that snarling hatefest. And his crude and unbridled disrespect for Obama. I've read on DU that he refused to enact health exchanges in New Jersey, despite the harm it will do. If he's got an alternative plan, I don't know.

He gets big press complimenting Obama for doing his job to help the people of NJ, because Obama is for ALL Americans, not just his friends, but did he help Obama be in office? Or would he be just as happy if Romney had won, as he was so vile toward Obama at the RNCconvention?

If he had had his way and Romney was elected, would he be complaining about the GOP, or blaming Obama for the lack of infrastructure and aid for the people of NJ? And these other GOP governors and representatives in the Northeast, would they play this the way Bush did Katrina?

It appears the GOP is using the same gamebook they did then. The sacred deficit that they own by virtue of the Bush tax cuts and unfunded wars on the national credit card - they won't look at the benefits to their owners - instead they go after flesh and blood, down and out people, repeatedly.

Will the better off peeps in the Northeast forget the GOP way of running government and elect Scott Brown again, to take John Kerry's seat. I feel certain that they will re-elect Christie. But what about the rest who supported Romney?

The only solution Romney had to Sandy was to shut down FEMA (red meat to the teabagger, 'they're coming to get you' crowd) and give it all to private agencies such as Jeb Bush had started up in case of a Romney presidency. What many call welfare, extends to all agencies that look after the American people. They hate all of them, including the Post Office!

It requires a philosophy of unity and willingness to bring all people up in this country to vote Democratic and do this.

JMHO.

[SummerSnow]

31. my sister said one of her coworkers lost...

his house in Staten Island to the hurricane. She said during the Presidental elections he was a staunch Republican. She said he is so outdone by and practically in tears that his party did not want to help. She also said you can't even hear a peep out of him.Quiet as a mouse.

[Bjornsdotter]

15. Called...

Called both of his offices..."We are receiving a high volume of calls right now....."

Left messages, I'm sure they will just be deleted. My parents live in the Janesville area and they flooded a few years back & lost everything. FEMA was set up in a local Janesville church for months.

It's just shameful that he would vote against it, especially after he has seen the damage water can cause first hand.

[freshwest]

21. That is powerful, good work. Keep it up. PA is learning the true nature of teabaggery.

I appreciate your posting this, proving that people in PA care about doing the right thing for all. Romney would have eliminated FEMA, so would this representative. There would have been no major help for Janesville, despite private help. They want to shut down the Federal Government to give the money to the Koch owned operations.

If the main government can't do this for the 'general welfare' it will not exist and that is their plan. They want to give everything to the private interests and eliminate any citizen protests. If you don't 'know somebody,' you'd be out of luck.

[rufescent ranger]

16. I think they voted against...

... the pork in the bill that had nothing to do with NJ or NY. Prove me wrong.

[Bjornsdotter]

20. Burden of proof

...is on you.

Please prove the pork comment.

[freshwest]

26. His last proof was from Breitbart.com. Don't hold your breath. His other post was hidden:

Last edited Fri Jan 4, 2013, 05:14 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022130995#post1

So he learned to not provide proof. Will he make it to the magic hundred so he won't get banned by MIRT?

The others thought pizza delivery was on the way in that thread. I think it's overdue.

[Mass]

29. Not this bill. All this bill does is increase the flood insurance by $9 billions, that is all.

[Cha]

35. You "think"... come back when you know something.

[In_The_Wind]

22. I'm not surprised.

[bulloney]

24. Not surprised to see Jim Jordan of Ohio on the "no" list.

But he'll vote for EVERY war mongering military spending bill because he thinks we must continue to be the world military superpower. Never mind that we've had enough military firepower to kill every man, woman and child in the world many times over. People like Jordan won't sleep until they know that we can destroy everyone many times over plus one.

[Berlum]

30. "We don't give a fig or a fart about you smelly American proles." - Republicans

"We are too damn busy on our KNEES for our Elite 1% Moneybucks Overlords. Sneer." - Republican BrownNosers

[RedCloud]

32. Somebody please keep track of all the GOP Fuck yous to America

We can use them for the midterms!

[AndyA]

33. Both of my new Reps voted No--they're off to a good start!

Both are as disgustingly conservative as you can get. Baby-faced Bridenstine and former plumber Mullin don't believe those hurt by Hurricane Sandy should get any help.

Of course, we never have any natural disasters in Oklahoma, so we'll never have to worry about needing help at some point...

Idiots!

[Initech]

34. Scary to think Paul Ryan actually had a shot at the vice presidency.

[rustysgurl]

36. Yep, I'm From Kansas and My Rep Voted NO

Sigh ... Kevin Yoder, my representative (um ... NOT), voted NO. I wish we had Dennis Moore back, but his Alzheimers forced him from office. I so, so, SO wish we could get a Dem in this district, but Yoder ran unopposed this last election. Just him and a Libertarian on the ballot. I'm going to call his office, for all the good that will do.

[bobclark86]

37. I really hope the "Nay" voters remember this...

...the next time a hurricane hits Biloxi, Galveston, the Chesepeake, northern Florida, South Carolina... oh, wait. They get hit ALL THE TIME.

[SunSeeker]

38. This was money to pay flood insurance claims--coverage the homeowners PAID for!!!!

What they voted on today was just a $9.7 billion bill to pay flood insurance claims from Hurricane Sandy. It only extends the borrowing authority of the National Flood Insurance Program, which the Federal Emergency Management Agency warned on Tuesday was set to run out of money next week without additional funds from Congress.

How could ANYONE vote "no" on that? There is no "pork" here--just contractual obligations on the part of the National Flood Insurance Program. Unfuckingbelievable.

[BainsBane]

39. Names of the no votes

To be sure no one misses exactly who they are. Note that there are representatives from FL, LA, SC, and other areas often hit by hurricanes, and they feel entitled to deny relief to the section of the country that pays the most in federal taxes. I always find it ironic that the parts of the country that are most stingy are the ones that don't actual contribute a penny to the federal treasury. They take in more in federal subsidies than they pay in taxes. It is Republican states who are the real takers.

No Votes (67)

Member Party Dist.
Justin Amash R MI-3
Andy Barr R KY-6
Dan Benishek R MI-1
Kerry Bentivolio R MI-11
Marsha Blackburn R TN-7
Jim Bridenstine R OK-1
Mo Brooks R AL-5
Paul Broun R GA-10
Steven J. Chabot R OH-1
Doug Collins R GA-9
K. Michael Conaway R TX-11
Tom Cotton R AR-4
Steve Daines R MT-1
Ron DeSantis R FL-6
Scott DesJarlais R TN-4
Sean Duffy R WI-7
Jeffrey Duncan R SC-3
John J. Duncan Jr. R TN-2
Stephen Fincher R TN-8
John Fleming R LA-4
Bill Flores R TX-17
Virginia Foxx R NC-5
Trent Franks R AZ-8
Louie Gohmert R TX-1
Robert W. Goodlatte R VA-6
Paul Gosar R AZ-4
Trey Gowdy R SC-4
Sam Graves R MO-6
Tom Graves R GA-14
Andy Harris R MD-1
George Holding R NC-13
Richard Hudson R NC-8
Tim Huelskamp R KS-1
Randy Hultgren R IL-14
Lynn Jenkins R KS-2
Jim Jordan R OH-4
Doug Lamborn R CO-5
Kenny Marchant R TX-24
Thomas Massie R KY-4
Tom McClintock R CA-4
Mark Meadows R NC-11
Markwayne Mullin R OK-2
Mick Mulvaney R SC-5
Randy Neugebauer R TX-19
Steven Palazzo R MS-4
Steve Pearce R NM-2
Scott Perry R PA-4
Tom Petri R WI-6
Mike Pompeo R KS-4
Tom Price R GA-6
Phil Roe R TN-1
Todd Rokita R IN-4
Keith Rothfus R PA-12
Ed Royce R CA-39
Paul D. Ryan R WI-1
Matt Salmon R AZ-5
David Schweikert R AZ-6
F. James Sensenbrenner R WI-5
Marlin Stutzman R IN-3
William M. Thornberry R TX-13
Randy Weber R TX-14
Brad Wenstrup R OH-2
Roger Williams R TX-25
Joe Wilson R SC-2
Rob Woodall R GA-7
Kevin Yoder R KS-3
Ted Yoho R FL-3

[AverageJoe90]

53. Looks like my rep Ralph Hall didn't go for it.....

He's a Republican, and a Tea Party guy to boot, but apparently, it looks like he decided not to reject the Sandy relief bill. If so, good for him, he did something right.

[LiveNudePolitics]

40. Those of us in NY & NJ

are going to remember these douchebags. I hope Ryan realizes he cannot ever hope to get his grinchy paws on the White House without us. Ever. We are not going to forget this, and tons of campaign donors live in Long Island and even the rich guys want their piece of Sandy cash.

[Island Deac]

42. Ted Yoho from Florida

who spent a lot of his life as a veterinarian with his arm up a horses a.... has turned into one as he votes straight "Don't Tread On Me" Party Line against Bohner and against the States of New Jersey and New York. Ted, the next time a weather tragedy hits Florida, and it will, I hope they tell you to go stick it.

[nradisic]

43. Assholes

of the worst kind

[santamargarita]

44. They should be considered enemies of the State!

[Jamaal510]

49. On the list of Republicans who voted "no",

I was very surprised to not see Bachmann's name on the list. This is the first and only issue I've seen her correct on.

[lexw]

50. Hey!!!!

The man washed a clean pan in a soup kitchen—cut him some slack.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

51. All of them comepissonit conservatives.

[AverageJoe90]

52. Not surprised, TBH.

I simply can't believe the effing stupidity of those 67 House members who voted NOT to help people affected by Sandy. It REALLY boggles the mind sometimes. But, I guess the good news in all this is that even with the Teabaggers opposing it, the bill still passed. Now it just needs to go thru the Senate, if it hasn't already.

[rieger]

54. Does anyone know the Katrina vote results?

I live in NY and want to post this to some (R) friends.

[Island Deac]

55. FL, SC, AL

Now there are three states that never had a disaster hit. We have found the "bottom of the barrel!" You people will find out there are going to be negative results from voting in complete "Conservatives". BTW that means "I only care about me all the time, and don't care about anybody else ever." That is the true meaning of Conservative.

[heaven05]

56. why

are these people so EVIL and mean spirited? Sandy victims need help not ideology. All 67 should be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail. Lyinryan, first.

[samsingh]

57. this paul ryan moron could have been vp and he can't even help fellow

Americans whose lives have been devastated by a storm.

and over 48% of the country still voted for this vile, disgusting, crybaby.

[young_at_heart]

58. Are these people lacking a heart?

And maybe a soul, also?

[rsweets]

60. Randy Hultgren R IL-14

had no problem asking for assistance after the 2011 snow storm that
hit his district ... also has the fox and des plains rivers in his districts
both prone to flooding ... what an ass

[rsweets]

61. Gov Walkers got no problem asking for assitance

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/164833066.html

MADISON- Three northern Wisconsin counties have been declared major disaster areas by the U.S. government following June's floods.

Governor Walker said Thursday local governments in Ashland, Bayfield and Douglas Counties as well as the Red Cliff Band of Lake Superior Chippewa can apply for federal assistance to help recover some of the costs incurred through fighting the floods and repair infrastructure.