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McConnell: Obama will be "dragged kicking and screaming" to get spending cuts
McConnell: Tax negotiations are over, it's time to cut spending
Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama?
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cer7711
(502 posts). . . firemen are responsible for fires.
caledesi
(11,903 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)Republicans spend spend spend and Dems pay the bills. ie hence Republicans = spending , Democrats = Taxing. Always been this way.
gateley
(62,683 posts)bonniebgood
(940 posts)when this frog talked 20 minutes repeating the same BS lines? Here is where I can say
'both sides do it' Dems won't use this chart when they are on. Dem and Repug ignore this fact.
They will (all) quick to say Medicare spending is the biggest driver of the debt. I guess that means its bigger than
the Military.
caledesi
(11,903 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)...evening shows on MSNBC tonight and into perpetuity. Each and every one of them needs to drill baby drill this story from now until he says uncle. I missed Ed's radio show today...did anyone listen to it? Did he touch this?
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)how he made 20 million dollars is what? 2 years while he's supposed to be working for us?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Convince Congress to fork over their salaries for the next four years as a start to cut down on spending. You guys are not doing your jobs and the taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for work not done. The money can be used to pay down the deficit instead.
They can fork over their "Platinum" Health Care benefits also! Let them pay out of pocket!
dotymed
(5,610 posts)Once they get elected, they are millionaires in no time. It isn't from their salaries..Of course legalized insider trading and citizens united are their real source of wealth. What a fucked up system...
Cleita
(75,480 posts)households in Washington, travel and other expenses they wouldn't have if they weren't serving in Congress and that the government doesn't provide. Most rich people are notoriously cheap and expect others to pick up the tab. Also, they wouldn't have their Cadillac grade health insurance and other perks either. I would cut off that insider trading and citizens united spigot too. Of course, I'm jesting. I'm saying if they want to cut spending, this is a good place to start because this has been one of the most useless things we taxpayers have had to pay for in recent years. The Pentagon would be my second choice.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,869 posts)Between McConnell and Rand Paul stupid seems to be a way of life.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... EVER mentions Kentucky, especially McConnell. How long has McConnell been in there? Since Methuselah? I NEVER hear McConnell mention his home state.
And I can tell you for sure it's not the water. It's their hearts of stone. Go Ashley Judd!!!!!!!
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)These sorts of charts need to be disseminated far and wide but the M$M refuses to do it.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)They ladle out the gravy to their 1% Cabal O'Cronies while tossing America's elders and poor under their freaking Gold-Plated Boondoggle Bus (R).
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)santamargarita
(3,170 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)mostlyconfused
(211 posts)and pull spending back to Clinton era levels. Seems the economy was pretty strong in the 90's.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)...why isn't this chart smack-dab on the front of every major newspaper?
Diane Sawyer? Hello? Are you gonna show this on ABC World News Tonight?!?!?
Thought not.
lark
(23,083 posts)It's because the media is owned by rich people who support other rich people who pay rich people to be in congress and do their bidding. The game is rigged in favor of the rich in both parties. The Dems just don't want to give all the money to the rich and the Repugs want to steal every bit of it for them and their rich cronies. The media can't let this get out, it's counter to their goals of stealing all the money for themselves and the rich and impoverishing the rest of the country.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)...the White House website???? Let's contact Alan Grayson and suggest he uses this chart on the floor of the house? Heck... just PM him here on DU! Everybody! Yesssssssssss!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Republicans have been using the words "government spending" to dog whistle "welfare" for decades.
They go all through the South telling racist white people that MOST of their tax dollars are going to lazy black people. They invoke the image to some dirt poor white guy that the government is ripping them off and blacks have more than they do as a result of years of handouts that white people aren't eligible for. The image of a black guy kicking back in the "inner cities" smoking crack and watching cable TV is designed to fill Rednecks with anger and resentment considering they can't afford cable TV. After spreading this LIE Republicans then claim to be the heroes that will put a stop to this outrage and force those lazy blacks out of their comfortable welfare lifestyle and make them get a job so they will suffer just like the poor whites.
So, every time you hear Republicans talk about "Obama's spending" remember this is their game.
They are NOT talking about cutting the pay for park rangers at Yosemite or the guys who monitor earthquakes at the USGS.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)I honestly never saw much racial components in the GOP's "Obama's out of control spending" myth. Of course I knew it was a lie, but I basically gave them the benefit of the doubt and looked at it like elected Republicans were just mostly con-artists and didn't care so much about the racial stuff.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)...he will rail about "out of control spending" and claim to be "looking out for taxpayers".
That's CLASSIC code throughout the South.
I'm telling you, there are racists that really believe MOST of their taxes are supporting black people.
Then you have the decades of Limbaugh telling these people "It's not how much you make, it's how much you keep" as if their job as a dishwasher at Denny's would make them a millionaire if it weren't for the "gubmunt stealing".
They even tell these people that taxes ARE a form of slavery.
What the HELL is with these people that they ASSUME there are those who rule and those who are ruled and they live in abject TERROR that they will become slaves? Yo get the idea they wake up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night after having a nightmare that they were forced to bow before a black man.
Left Brain
(955 posts)Even better are his responses to the jackasses who posted their brainwashed comments.
Blue Owl
(50,340 posts)...lie his lame-o ass off!
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)We are in a discussion about spending and cuts and I defended the President based on this chart... They started to beat me up by saying that we all would agree that 2009 was an historic year because of the Great Recession and the government intervention by both President Bush and President Obama but Obama is now using 2009 spending levels as a baseline and he still increases spending by 1.4 percent over that baseline as if we were having the Great Recession every year since he has been President....
What is a good comeback for this rationale?
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)the one Repug who most threatens our democracy.
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)The president only signs the bills. It's congress that actually passes the legislation and I'm curious what the rates would be along congressional party lines.
Mr.Bill
(24,267 posts)If it happens, he signed it and he owns it, regardless of the makeup of Congress, unless they have a 2/3 majority.
rukidding1959
(1 post)After I did the research, especially during the Regan years, this chart means ABSOLUTELY nothing. I also looked at the Bush years (#43) and that took a little more research. Had to look at when the spending took place. GRRRRRR.
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)the ones that help people there are ways to cut spending but they want to hurt as many people as they can.
Now,they want to cut spending after they did all of the spending on bullshit,but when our money is needed for us we can't use it because turtle asshole says so..
OccupyManny
(60 posts)Can't someone find a young boy in this asshole's personal life?
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)fall for the right wing bull
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Perhaps run off a few copies and stick the graph in people's doors.
Cha
(297,084 posts)h/t think .. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2150983
http://mercatus.org/publication/spending-under-president-george-w-bush
Bainbridge Bear
(155 posts)to confront the addiction of our political system to special interest whores and right-wing assholes like McConnell. He is a disgrace.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)because he's not doing a good job for them. McConnell also needs to get out of that stupid bubble he lives in.
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)Iris
(15,652 posts)That is all.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)two wars with tax cuts created about $12 trillion of the US $16 trillion debt.
Overseas
(12,121 posts)ColumbusLib
(158 posts)is worth a thousand words! It says it all, should be used/evident at all debt/spending discussions.
erth64net
(1 post)Fedaykin
(118 posts)For those who are still hypnotized into thinking there is much difference between Democrats and Republicans...
http://metanoia-films.org/lifting-the-veil/
Click on watch online to the right once directed to the link...
pasto76
(1,589 posts)Im like yeah....tell me how SS contributes to the deficit too.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Towlie
(5,324 posts)bar label / top pixel position / bottom pixel position / height in pixels / Label proportion / Graphic proportion
8.7 106 350 244 6.21 5.95
4.9 212 350 138 3.5 3.37
5.4 198 350 152 3.86 3.71
3.2 260 350 90 2.29 2.2
3.9 241 350 109 2.79 2.66
7.3 145 350 205 5.21 5
8.1 123 350 227 5.79 5.54
1.4 309 350 41 1 1