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The premise: Maybe you hate the band, maybe you like a song or two, one thing you cannot do is listen to an entire album by the band in one sitting because the front man / woman is best taken in small doses, or not at all.
Your pick?
Botany
(70,447 posts)n/t
TexasBushwhacker
(20,144 posts)skypilot
(8,851 posts)Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)Plastic Ono Band
Yoko Ono.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,307 posts)I wanted the subject line to read "^^^^^ This. NT," but the ^ symbol gets stripped out by the software.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)As an artist / musician, I thought it would be amusing to understand John's appreciation of her art.
I really tried.
I failed.
What I WILL say is that she DID influence many musicians. Maybe for the better, maybe for the worse, but you can hear Yoko-isms all over the place.
Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...sort of post card stock, the size of the CD case. One of the CDs (I don't remember which one) had a black and white photo of John and Yoko in a room, with her screaming into a microphone, and John bent over at the waist holding a guitar and playing it like he had found nirvana. It's hard to describe it, and if I still had it, I'd post it, but the sound of her voice sent him several quadrants beyond where "ecstasy" exists.
Ohiogal
(31,916 posts)pressbox69
(2,252 posts)appealed to John because she reminded him of his favorite person. John.
I actually agree with many here, but definitely do not agree with Stevie Nicks, Mick Jagger and Bon Jovi.
LenaBaby61
(6,972 posts)Appreciate 🤭
MaryMagdaline
(6,851 posts)JDC
(10,117 posts)nmgaucho
(527 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)I actually like some of VHs stuff with Roth, but when Hagar came along it was white bread city.
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)Frontman for 'Anvil'.
lapucelle
(18,187 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I did not expect to see that name in this thread though, gotta say ...
You don't even like, say, Dreams or Landslide or Rhiannon?
lapucelle
(18,187 posts)Ohiogal
(31,916 posts)She acts like she's some kind of Gothic princess wannabee, twirling around with all her crazy outfits
Her songs are OK I can take em or leave em
SCantiGOP
(13,865 posts)I dont know how serious she was, but I read years ago that she thinks she is the reincarnation of a 13th Century Welsh witch.
Ohiogal
(31,916 posts)progressoid
(49,951 posts)Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)fingernails scraping a blackboard. Eeeeyaaaarggggghhh! Please don't tell her.
Ohiogal
(31,916 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)I liked The Dixie Chicks version of Landslide better
shenmue
(38,506 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)He didn't actually sing on a lot of the older 'Ted Nugent' songs like Stranglehold (the live version on Double Live being the only song of his I actually LIKE), Dog Eat Dog, Wang-Dang-Sweet-Poontang ... and in fact Cat Scratch Fever is the only song he sung on that album ... as is Free For All on it's album. Pretty sure that on his first 4 albums including Double Live, he sang like 4 songs. The rest are Derek St. John or Meat Loaf TTBOMK.
Anyways, this is a great answer.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)pressbox69
(2,252 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)decided not to get into that fight with folks.
But, if one needs proof of their white wing leanings, I recently read they have announced a farewell tour with "special guests" like Kid Rock and Hank Williams, Jr.
pressbox69
(2,252 posts)Iggo
(47,535 posts)Oh.
My.
God.
(I assume we're talking about live shows here, right?)
stevil
(1,537 posts)But highly disagree. An acquired taste for sure.
Iggo
(47,535 posts)Initech
(100,040 posts)"He Is" is an awesome song.
jmowreader
(50,529 posts)Ohiogal
(31,916 posts)Iggo
(47,535 posts)LisaM
(27,794 posts)The one who overuses (well, any use is too much) the word "lady".
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I actually like both of them dudes okay ... at least, if I like the tune. Too Much Time on My Hands is Shaw, and it's awesome, as are Blue Collar Man and Renegade. DeYoung sicked us with Babe, but Rockin' The Paradise and The Best of Times are pretty decent. Overall I think Shaw was probably the better singer and songwriter.
Ohiogal
(31,916 posts)I can take or leave their music, but that singer used to make some UG LEE facial expressions.
hatrack
(59,578 posts)Ohiogal
(31,916 posts)That guy.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)songs that are their best known, apart from Babe ...
hatrack
(59,578 posts)Although I had to admit, the VW commercial with the guy sitting in the parking lot at 2:00 in the morning robot dancing to Mr. Roboto was pretty awesome.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,307 posts)Thank you. I love Styx.
ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)Hate Steve " that non playing mother fucker" Miller. (The quote is from Miles Davis).
Not a fan of Toots Hibbard of Toots and the Maytals.
Al Green.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Uhhh ... yeah. Okay Miles.
Not saying he's a phenomenal technical guitarist but he wrote and played all the classic guitar riffs from tunes like Jet Airliner and Jungle Love ... and when you see 'em in concert, he IS the primary guitarist of his band. He'll have a rhythm guy too but the 'guitar show' of a Miller concert ... entirely features HIM, and he's pretty damn passable.
He was a douche about how long it took him to get into the R&R HoF by all accounts but calling him 'non-playing' is bullshit.
And hating on Steven Tyler?
Sheeeeeit. Steven is a damn national treasure, man.
Just saw them a few months back and to my ear, he sounds better than almost anyone left from the era of 70's rock aside from Lindsay Buckingham and Don Henley (and Frey when he was with us) ... but significantly better than Jagger, Plant, Daltrey & Townsend do nowadays ... to name a few.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Hayduke Bomgarte
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highmindedhavi
(355 posts)He would stop the music during a song to complain. Walked out both times during the Metallica/Guns tour at the LA Coliseum and The Rose Bowl.
withoutapaddle
(263 posts)I even liked g and r better when Buckethead played with them
VMA131Marine
(4,136 posts)Sorry, he just annoys the crap out of me.
Leith
(7,808 posts)I like the Rolling Stones and I have several of their albums. But, damn! Mick Jagger is not someone I would like to know in real life.
Same for Shane MacGowan.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Shane's the best!
Canoe52
(2,948 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,865 posts)of the Boston Symphony.
Just kidding.
Botany
(70,447 posts)Especially when she does her violin solos w/the laser lights and the fireworks.
SCantiGOP
(13,865 posts)Some of his music, like this piece, is as soothing as a Xanax or 3 Scotch and waters.
Iggo
(47,535 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 28, 2018, 10:06 PM - Edit history (1)
Blackie Lawless
Brian Johnson
Dee Snider
Cinderella guy
David Coverdale
And oh god, Dave Motherfucking Mustaine. Dude! You're a shredder, not a singer!
bullimiami
(13,076 posts)Kali
(55,004 posts)polyfuckingphonicspree
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I adore a couple of their albums like The Soft Bulletin and Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots but that's mostly cause Pete Drozd (sp?) the multi-instrumentalist/music writer was so f***ing brilliant on those albums, and Wayne came up with some cool lyrics so I love the whole package but that dude can't sing to save his life.
Others I could also see being annoyed by (though I personally love them) are Morrissey (The Smiths) and Robert Smith (The Cure) and Peter Murphy (Bauhaus).
Some 'actually annoying' front-people to me are Darius Rucker (Hootie) & Rob Thomas (Matchbox 20, with his 'I'm so alternative' tone) & Axl Rose.
And I'll be shocked if nobody says Geddy Lee at some point on this thread.
Initech
(100,040 posts)When the Flaming Lips do original material, a lot of it can be really great. But when they do covers or experimental stuff, that can be really terrible. So I would say hit or miss.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Are just friggin' brilliant ...
It's right up there with the awesome that was Mercury Rev's "Deserter's Songs" ... it was just before Pro Tools and they made it on a shoestring budget with tech that wasn't that far advanced from what was used to make music in the 1970's even though it was 1999 ... and Pete was all on Heroin and stuff ... and after having their biggest 'hit' in 'She Don't Use Jelly' a number of years earlier ... they just pulled The Soft Bulletin out of friggin' NOWHERE ... and totally blew my mind.
Wait, let me take that back ... it is probably the single album that I changed my initial opinion about THE MOST ... from the first time I listened ... vs the 3rd time I listened. EVER. And I've heard a lot of music in my day. It still trips me out that the first time I heard it I thought ... this is SHIT, why did I waste my money? But since I'd spent the money, I tried it again ... eh ... I guess a couple songs are cool ... Waiting on A Superman was kinda catchy ... 3rd time, once I sorta 'knew it' and started focusing on what was going on ... I realized ... holy SHIT ... this is actually really amazing stuff.
On edit ... oh, yeah ... just remembered ... that 3rd time was the first time I put myself into the proper 'environment' for full appreciation. Headphones ... and my cannabinoid receptors properly stimulated. It was then that I realized ... holy shit, this is Dark Side of the Moon & Sgt. Peppers ... rolled into an alt-rock package ... I think I had to listen to it couple times first sober though so as to give the tunes some familiarity to have the transcendental experience I had the third time. It's really ridiculously catchy throughout ... but your brain will NOT hear it that way the first time through.
Nearly 20 years later, I think it was a landmark album in music history. Yeah, it's overshadowed a bit by what Radiohead was doing around that time, but still great in it's own right.
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)I'm only now beginning to appreciate the brilliant and inventive guitar of Johnny Marr, just because everything about Morrissey is so insufferable that I never gave The Smiths a second listen.
I'll bite though - Why Darius Rucker? His music, both in Hootie and his current country career, is bland as hell, but he's always come across as a pretty humble and decent guy to me.
hatrack
(59,578 posts)"Greg, why does that boy always sing sharp?"
Bingo.
As noted, Johnny Marr is God and without so much as a single dudula-dudula-dudula "lead guitar" moment.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)The Mike Love of The Band.
Also, Mike Love: The Robbie Robertson of The Beach Boys.
jcboon
(296 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)He did a phenomenal job on the production of that disc ... made Robbie actually sound pretty good.
That disc came out circa 1988, when I was in college ... in fact, the first time I ever heard it was the first time I ever dropped 'e' (this a true story I swear) ... and my buddy who gave me the hit ... handed me headphones and told me to listen ... and he'd put on the opener "Showdown At Big Sky" really loud, just as it was kicking in and I was like ... WOW, that's AWESOME ... then when I was fully loaded about 10 mins later he put on "Testimony" and I was like WAIT, is that ... BONO on backing vocals (who he knew I really loved)?!? And he's smiling and going 'you know it!' and ... then he played 'Sweet Fire of Love' which is basically U2 w/Robbie and also a great tune ... and well ... lets just say, I fell in love with that disc ... and it was a really fun night
Good times. It's really a pretty solid album ... U2 are on a couple songs, Sting is on one ... and the whole thing has a 'Peter Gabriel - So' vibe to it cause of Lanois and some of Gabriels bandmates play on a lot of it ... and although RR's a pretty terrible singer, there's not a 'bad song' on the whole thing, nevertheless. A mostly forgotten classic, IMHO ...
MissMillie
(38,533 posts)It was one of my favorites of that year.
"Showdown at Big Sky" good stuff
His second one was pretty good too.
ms liberty
(8,558 posts)Broken Arrow, Crazy River, and Testimony . It is perfect. I love the man, and he wrote some of the great rock songs.
Initech
(100,040 posts)I watched the NHL All Star Game and then skipped over the part where he showed up.
kysrsoze
(6,019 posts)He acts like hes the greatest singer on earth and berates his band with comments like, Youre out of tune.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,144 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Recovering the Satellites is pretty damn solid too, though his histrionics on a few songs really grate on me. After that ... meh.
I often used to see Adam at the West Side club at Oakland Raider games around 1997, and he had seats just like 2 rows back and a couple of seats over from where I used to sit.
I tried to talk to him a couple different times and yeah, he was pretty douchey.
I told him I had seen 'em open for Jellyfish at the Warfield when they were NOBODY, before the A&EA album even came out. I told him I still had my promo cassette tape I got at Tower Records with Mr. Jones on one side and A Murder Of One on the other side ... and I was like 'you remember that promo cassette?' and he was like 'yeah' ... and then I told him I was in a cover band that I sang in and played in circa 1994 and we had 4 songs in our setlist from A&EA ...
So I told him about this, to let him know I a fan ... and I was cool about it, not all fanboy or asking for anything ... I was just chattin' ... and he totally was like 'yeah dude whatever', laughing at me with his buddies ... so fuck him.
underpants
(182,626 posts)was just when you'd forgotten about them they had another hit. My buddies and I used to laugh about this "THEYRE BACK!!"
Some pretty good songs but yes he is annoying. Had a helluva time in the 90's with the female cast members of "Friends" from what I've heard.
kysrsoze
(6,019 posts)Jared Leto sucks ass. 30 Seconds to Mars mars is almost as shitty as Nickelback. He should have stuck to acting. Then again, his character in Blade Runner is himself.
Glamrock
(11,787 posts)I love him. I love his music. Sincerely. But, I can't get through a whole album in one sitting. Too much Tom leaves me depressed.
trc
(823 posts)ugh just can't even...and Yolandi Visser from Die Antwoord, frankly Die Antwoord anything is atrocious.
...I fink you freaky
rogerballard
(2,869 posts)ugh, just can't even what? Enjoy !
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Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)I know a lot of people find him sexy but I dont see it. Plus I can only take one song of theirs at a time.
Canoe52
(2,948 posts)all I saw was a guy jumping around on stage flapping his arms like a chicken gone mad.
Zoonart
(11,833 posts)Never a fan of the chicken strut.
stonecutter357
(12,694 posts)aikoaiko
(34,163 posts)Vacillates between two earnest and too pretentious.
I never understood why all the cool kids adored him so much.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)All singers are pretentious. Standing up and singing in front of people is pretty much pretense defined.
aikoaiko
(34,163 posts)I know we won't convince each other.
Lots of people I respect love Morrisey, but I can't stand him.
Alpeduez21
(1,749 posts)couldn't sing, dance. or act. Saw him at the OH state fair when I was 8 or so. Tried to see some of his videos. Ugh.
Eddie Murphy, I don't care how often she wants to party.
Iggo
(47,535 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Van Halen just wasn't the same when he took over for David Lee Roth
Aristus
(66,293 posts)G&R had some good stuff that I listen to once in a while.
But Rose, jeez, his singing voice sounded like a bobcat being strangled with barbed wire. He was a jerk onstage and off. He was pretty full of himself, with no real reason to be. He was a boor and a bore.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Barely literate, can't carry a tune, and deep as piss on a rock.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Fuckin Mustaine, man. His vocals make me laugh.
CTyankee
(63,892 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)front·man
ˈfrəntˌman/
noun
noun: front-man
1.
the lead singer of a pop or rock group.
2.
a person who represents an organization and works to make its image more appealing to the public.
"Harry wanted Teddy to act as the respectable frontman for his business interests"
jalan48
(13,842 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,315 posts)Nah, I'm just kiddin' nyuk nyuk
progressoid
(49,951 posts)Dulcinea
(6,604 posts)He's insufferably whiny. Listening to him makes me want to hit him with a blunt object.
underpants
(182,626 posts)I'm still a Pumpkins fan regardless. He had two really good albums in him and then he wrote almost all of "Celebrity Skin" for Hole when he was dating Courtney Love.
TlalocW
(15,374 posts)His smarmy mugging for the cameras for the five seconds at a time the band was shown whenever the show went to commercial drove me crazy. If focus was on another band member because they were doing a solo or otherwise something special, he would get into the shot as quickly as possible and pick at his guitar while making a duck face like he was a rock god. Even now, my blood pressure goes up thinking about it.
TlalocW
The Polack MSgt
(13,182 posts)I mean I get that Accept was just one of the dozens of "Metal" bands that polluted the 80, but come on...
Udo Dirkschneider was so bad that Beavis and Butthead ragged on his ass unmercifully.