Post a true but little-known fact about someone famous, living or dead -- (Part 3)

[red dog 1]

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Part 1
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10181023643

Part 2
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10181058516

[red dog 1]

1. Anthony Quinn had 12 children

and his father, Frank Quinn, once rode with Mexican revolutionary Pancho Villa.

[LSFL]

2. George W Bush

Aided Africa to the tune of 40 billion dollars to help halt the spread of AIDS.

[Botany]

3. Years ago I lived next door to the brother of the Gov. of PA, Ray Shafer and he was a great guy,

Ray liked to play w/the kids in the neighborhood, supported civil rights, unions, education,
infrastructure, the environment, planned parenthood, he was a combat vet, he was active in
Episcopal church, he was @ or near the top of his class in college, and he was a Republican too.

[red dog 1]

5. They don't make Republicans like that anymore

Republicans these days, with very few exceptions, don't support any of the things that you listed above about Ray Shafer.

BTW, Ray Shafer also led a drug commission for Richard M. Nixon that recommended decriminalizing marijuana......(Too bad Nixon didn't agree with that)

[Botany]

9. Early 1970s Ray and his commission said that is was a waste of time, money, and people's lives ....

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..... to keep up a war on marijuana. Nixon saw a war on marijuana as part his war on
the anti war youth and paid no attention to Shafer and his commission. Kind of like
Reagan taking down the solar panels from the White House in 1981 .... oh for the way
things could have been.

[red dog 1]

17. Speaking of Nixon and marijuana

https://www.niagarafallsreporter.com/Stories/2014/SEP02/nixon.html

[red dog 1]

21. Re: my previous reply: "Speaking about Nixon & marijuana"

Although I'd read the article about "Nixon being Satchmo's Mule" some time ago, I didn't realize until now that it was written by Roger Stone, so it may not be true.
(Although it "could" still be true)

[flying_wahini]

111. THe Roger Stone?

Sounds like a truthful story. But who knows?

[Xipe Totec]

4. General Zaragoza, hero of the Battle of Puebla (cinco de Mayo) was born in Goliad, Texas

[red dog 1]

6. Anthony Quinn's father, Frank Quinn, rode with Mexican revolutionary Pancho Villa

[catrose]

8. Eleanor & Franklin

Had 2 sons named Franklin Delano Roosevelt. One died as an infant.

Also, their son Elliott (or his ghost writer) wrote a series of mysteries starring his mother as a super sleuth.

[Freddie]

27. When Eleanor found love letters

In FDR’s luggage (from Lucy Mercer) she was going to divorce him. His mother, Sara, sat her down and talked her out of it, knowing that (in those days) a divorce meant the end of a politician’s career. The couple came to an “understanding” but Eleanor refused to share a bed with him again. (Not) coincidently, each of their 5 surviving children - Anna, FDR Jr., Elliot, John and James - was married at least twice.

[Rhiannon12866]

44. Speaking of presidental children as mystery authors

Margaret Truman also wrote mysteries and I recently learned that Susan Ford is writing mysteries too!

[catrose]

49. I'll have to check out Susan's book

If I've read Margaret's, it's been so long ago that I would enjoy them again.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

10. Betsy Ross was a middle child, sort of

Born Elizabeth Griscom, she was eighth of seventeen. Near the Friends meeting house in Philly's Frankford section there is a street I believe that was named for her family.

Andrew Griscom, Betsy's great grandfather Andrew Griscom, had already moved to New Jersey in 1860 and then to Philly after its founding by Wiliiam Penn. Betsy's father, Samuel, helped build the bell tower at what is now Independence Hall.

[Ptah]

11. Edgar Bergen was a steam engine fan.

[Wolf Frankula]

12. Napoleon was afraid of cats.

Wolf

[Codeine]

13. Robin Williams collected, painted,

and played games with fantasy-themed miniature figurines.

[Brother Buzz]

105. Robin Williams collected bicycles

Many exotic older racing bicycles. I was informed of this charity auction but all the frames were way too small for me

His children have donated 87 bikes from his treasure trove—yes, this is just a selection—to be auctioned off now through October 25. All proceeds will support charities Williams championed: the Challenged Athletes Foundation, which supports athletes with disabilities, and the Christopher & Dana Reeve Foundation, which is dedicated to curing spinal cord injury.

Description and photos of the 87 bicycles (eye candy for us cyclists):
https://paddle8.com/auction/robin-williams/

[jmowreader]

14. Jim Henson achieved fame by making violent commercials

https://m.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=215s&v=Uf9-M8npGiA

In the 1950s in Washington, D.C., advertisers could buy 10-second periods of time between shows that were used for station identification. Jim Wilkins, who owned Wilkins Coffee, hired young puppeteer Jim Henson to make these ads. The format was simple: 8 seconds of coffee-loving Wilkins beating the hell out of coffee-hating Wontkins, and a two-second shot of the product.

The ads worked so well, and were so modifiable, that Wilkins was able to sell them to businesses around the country selling all sorts of other products.

http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Wilkins_Coffee

[Oneironaut]

15. Isaac Newton was never married, and was incredibly socially awkward, and thought he could turn lead

into gold. Needless to say, he was unsuccessful.

[Callmecrazy]

99. He died a virgin.

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

110. It's probable that Newton had Asperger's Syndrome

He was not knighted for his scientific work. After he retired from his professorship at Cambridge, he was made Master of the Mint as a sinecure to give him an income. He took the job seriously, and led a major crackdown on counterfeiters -- that's what got him a knighthood.

[red dog 1]

16. The legendary folk singer, Linda Thompson, was so despondent after her breakup with husband

Richard Thompson, that she began drinking heavily, and at one point became broke and homeless.
During this period, her friend Linda Ronstadt found her sitting on a curb and invited her to stay with her, which she did.

In 1982, after she and Richard Thompson broke up (he fell in love with a younger woman), they were offered a long and lucrative tour of the U.S...which they both accepted.
However, at one point during this final tour, she was so mad at her ex-husband that she began throwing things at him in a dressing room.
The owner of the venue told her that The Sex Pistols had played there the week before and that she did more damage to the dressing room than they had.

[backtoblue]

39. Shoulda cut back on the wine....

More weed and whites might've calmed her.

[kwassa]

18. Gus Van Sant taught David Byrne to play the guitar.

Might be true.

Classmates of mine at RISD.

[red dog 1]

41. Gus Van Sant's latest film is called "Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far On Foot"

which had it's world premiere at the Sundance Film Festival on January 13, 2018 and got very good reviews.
It's scheduled to be released July 13, 2018 by Amazon Studios.
[The "trailer" can be watched by doing a Google search]

The film is based on quadriplegic cartoonist John Callahan's memoir of the same name.
Gus Van Sant directed it and wrote the adapted screenplay.
Joachim Phoenix plays Callahan, and also in the film are Jonah Hill & Jack Black.

[red dog 1]

19. The first band Jerry Garcia was in was called the Chords

He joined the band while attending Analy High School in Sebastopol, CA.
(At the time, he lived in Cazadero, CA, 30 miles away)

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

23. Karen Valetine went to the same school

She was 5 years younger that Jerry so it's unlikely that they ever met.

[red dog 1]

25. Interesting!

I don't think he attended that school for very long anyway.
He hated the 30 mile bus ride to and from school.

I've been to Cazadero, where he lived at that time.
It's mostly forest and gets more rain than any other part of Sonoma County.

[red dog 1]

20. When he was 18, Jerry Garcia stole his mother's car, and as punishment he was forced to join the

United States Army.

[jes06c]

22. Elvis Presley had a twin brother who died in childbirth

[Freddie]

51. Back in those days

Twins were often a surprise. Jesse was born first, stillborn. When Elvis was born next and very much alive, Gladys thought a true miracle had occurred. This explains why she coddled and babied him the rest of her (sadly short) life.

[red dog 1]

24. Hunter S. Thompson's funeral cost $3 million dollars, & was paid for by his friend, Johnny Depp

His ashes were fired from a cannon, as he had wanted.
Depp told the AP, "All I'm doing is trying to make sure his last wish comes true...I just want to send my pal out the way he wants to go out."

An estimated 280 people attended, including U.S. Senators John Kerry and George McGovern, "60 Minutes" correspondents Ed Bradley and Charlie Rose, actors Jack Nicholson, John Cuscak, Bill Murray, Benicio del Toro, Sean Penn and Josh Hartnett
Also attending were musicians Lyle Lovett, John Oates and David Amran.

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. Vladmir Putin in conjunction with the KGB, called something else now but that isnt important

created online quizzes and questionnaires to get personal information from people to use against them in their own election.

Maybe it isnt little known now.

[Me.]

28. Marie Antoinette Never Said Let Them Eat Cake

[DetlefK]

79. That was fake news by the media.

They hated her because she was a spoiled foreigner, an AUSTRIAN, occupying a FRENCH throne.

[Me.]

82. Primarily Created By Phillipe D'Orleans

delivered via pamplets

[Freddie]

29. Lawrence Welk, despite his heavy accent

Was born and raised in the USA, in a small town in Nebraska (or one of those states) where no one spoke English, only German.

[Laffy Kat]

73. Wow, you're right. I just Wiki'd him.

For some reason I thought his accent was more Polish. Learned something.

[mopinko]

30. when barack obama was a community organizer, he used to bring the girls to meetings

w him. but they always had dad hair, so the ladies at the meetings would do their hair for them.



things i learned on the campaign bus.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

31. Babe Ruth kept a cabbage leaf under his cap to keep cool. n/t

[red dog 1]

34. Cool!

(and funny too)

[gladium et scutum]

32. V. I. Chuikov is the only Marshal of the Soviet Union

not buried in the Kremlin wall. He is buried in Volgograd, near the grave of thousands of Soviet soldiers, killed under his command, defending the city of Stalingrad from the Germans.

[NNadir]

33. Joseph Stalin's daughter died in Wisconsin.

In 1967 she defected to the United States.

Fluent in four languages, she lived in various countries all around the world and all over the United States.

She became an American citizen, and later, a citizen of Great Britain.

It appears, from her Wikipedia page that she once lived in my town, although I didn't know that.

She returned to the United States in 2011, and died in Richland Center, Wisconsin.

Her daughter, who was, unlike her half siblings, not estranged from her mother, returned to the Soviet Union for a brief period, before leaving again after a dispute with relatives.

Here is a picture of Stalin's granddaughter:

[LeftInTX]

45. Maybe she will be in Trump's WH?

[NNadir]

50. Secretary of State when the most recent burns out.

[GeorgeGist]

107. She looks nice.

[NNadir]

108. Sweet young woman to be sure. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree as they say. n/t

[red dog 1]

35. In early 1954, Elvis Presley failed an audition for a Memphis vocal quartet, the Songfellows

He explained to his father: "They told me I couldn't sing."

In April, 1954, Elvis began working as a truck driver for the Crown Electric company.
His friend Ronnie Smith suggested that he contact Eddie Bond, leader of Smith's professional band, which had an opening for a vocalist.
Bond rejected him after a tryout, advising Presley to stick to truck driving, "because you're never going to make it as a singer."

[jes06c]

55. Another Elvis fact

Colonel Parker believed rock and roll was a fad, which is why he pushed Elvis so hard to become a full time actor for most of the 60s.

[underpants]

92. Colonel Parker was an "illegal alien"

He never let Elvis leave the country because he couldn't go with him for fear of not getting back in. Elvis being stationed in Germany drove him nuts.

The Live in Hawaii was overseas enough for Parker. It sort of felt like Elvis left the country but he didn't.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

36. Viktor Anatolyevich Bout is a suspected and convicted arms dealer and...

...one of several that were the basis for the main character in the movie Lord of War released in 2005.

He is currently in prison in Marion, IL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout
Bout says he has done little more than provide logistics, but former British Foreign Office minister Peter Hain called Bout a "sanctions buster" and described him as "the principal conduit for planes and supply routes that take arms from east Europe, principally Bulgaria, Moldova and Ukraine, to Liberia and Angola".
...
As of 2014, former US Attorney General John Ashcroft is representing Bout in over turning his conviction via a new trial.

[DetlefK]

78. RT conveniently forgets to mention that he's an arms-dealer every single time they mention him.

RT often writes about a russian pilot who was flying drugs for cartels and was arrested by the US in a sting-operation.

This pilot and Viktor Bout are regularly held up by RT as examples that the US has it out for imprisoning Russians.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

95. Who is "RT"? n/t

[DetlefK]

96. RT is Russia Today. A russian propaganda-outlet.

They pretend to be a news-organization, but their reporting is so one-sided it's hard to see them as anything other than a propaganda-tool of the russian government:

- only good news about Russia
- 90% of news about the rest of the world are catastrophies and strife and divisions; basically anything that makes the rest of the world look bad compared to Russia
- If the Democrats say something, RT fact-checks that. If Republicans say something, RT leaves the statement alone.
- Their reporting during the 2016 election was hardcore pro-Trump. After the election their reporting was so pro-Trump that Putin had to order them to tone it down. (IIRC Spring 2017)
- For political commentary they hire esteemed people who e.g. talk about the Balkans but don't remember the Balkan civil war in the 1990s, or a philosopher who's obsessed with sex, or they ask Alt-Right troll Mike Cernovich for his opinion on foreign-policy, or they ask unknown republican politicans who are so far outside of the mainstream that even other Republicans think they are crazy kooks.

RT has the slogan "Question More" but operates by lying by omission by withholding critical information from its readers.

[trof]

37. Sarah Silverman spent the night at my house.

She and our daughter are friends from high school.
Our daughter had a mass sleep over (co-ed! most of her class.) on our great room floor.
Sleeping bags.
Miz t. and I made sure everything was on the up and up.
They were a great bunch of kids. Many were in our daughter's wedding party.
We're still friends today.

Sarah was worried about her bed wetting, but that night she was fine.

[red dog 1]

40. I'm a huge fan of Sarah Silverman

The first time I saw her was on "Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher" about 15 years ago.
She "slouched" down on the couch she was sitting in, and everything she said was hilarious.

My favorite Sarah Silverman line was from a Comedy Central Roast she did a few years back.
When it was her turn to talk, she got up there, looked over the crowd, and said:
"Nice to see Courtney Love out there...I left my Crack in my other purse."

[Laffy Kat]

74. Whoa! That is so cool. nt

[red dog 1]

38. Bill Cosby's wife, Camille, compares his sex assault conviction in Pennsylvania to a lynching,

likening Cosby to Emmett Till.
[New York Times]

[Freddie]

52. Bill Cosby was the keynote speaker

At my graduation from Temple, which has now disowned its most famous grad. Other famous Temple alumni: Bob Saget, Daryl Hall and John Oates.

[red dog 1]

42. Quadriplegic cartoonist John Callahan, who died in 2010, suffered from severe bouts of depression

"This is John..I'm a little too depressed to take your call today," the message on his answering machine said..."Please leave your message at the gunshot."

[red dog 1]

43. Jerry Garcia was named after composer Jerome Kern

Jerome John Garcia (August 1, 1942 - August 9, 1995)

[LakeArenal]

46. Patty Boyd has sisters....

Jenny Boyd was married to Mick Fleetwood.. Left Mick for his best friend.... A family trait..

Paula Boyd dated Eric Clapton.

Those Boyd girls!!!

[rurallib]

56. Jenny Boyd was the inspiration for Donovan's 'Jennifer Juniper'

[Heartstrings]

47. The "one that got away" for Stevie Nicks

was Joe Walsh.....

[red dog 1]

48. Bryan Adams has been a vegan for nearly 30 years, and also is an animal rights activist

[Freddie]

53. George Harrison was named for King George VI

As I imagine many British boys were during WWII.

[Runningdawg]

54. Geraldo Rivera smells like a week old corpse that's been floating in the East river

He lived in the building next to ours in NYC. I saw him almost daily and had the unfortunate experience of being behind him in line at the liquor store, deli and dry cleaners on several occasions. It wasn't just a little funk, it made your eyes water and your stomach turn and it wasn't just once, it was every time.

[red dog 1]

57. What was he buying at the liquor store?

{Just curious]

[Runningdawg]

59. Sorry - it was 30 years ago, I don't remember

but I remember him buying salt and vinegar chips at the deli more than once.

[TexasBushwhacker]

109. What is it about men thinking it's okay to be stinky

You almost never hear that about a woman.

Ted Cruz's college roommate said Ted was stinky too and would wander around the woman's wing of their coed dorm room wearing a paisley bathrobe.

Several actors have a reputation for BO including Matthew McConaugey, Bradley Cooper and Russell Crowe.

The Foo Fighters don't bathe while on tour.

[red dog 1]

58. Jerry Garcia co-founded the New Riders of the Purple Sage,

with John Dawson and David Nelson

[red dog 1]

60. When he was 5, Salvador Dali found a nearly-dead bat covered with ants & then put it in his mouth

bit it, and then tore the bat almost in half.

[From Dali's autobiography, "The Secret Life of Salvador Dali"]

[Wolf Frankula]

61. On the Show Bill Mumy, who played Mr. Lennier on Babylon 5

never ran on the show. Because whenever he ran, somebody would yell "Run Will Robinson! Run! Run!" and everybody would break out laughing.

Wolf

[red dog 1]

62. Woody Allen inherited his baldness from his mother, not his father

As seen in the documentary "Wild Man Blues" (1997), Woody Allen's father had a full head of hair even into his 90s, but his mother was partly bald.

[red dog 1]

63. In high school, Willie Mays played multiple sports, averaging 17 points a game in basketball,

and more than 40 yards a punt in football, while also playing quarterback.

[Brother Buzz]

83. In high school, Pat Paulsen scored 36 points a season in basketball, second highest on the team

They passed the ball around a lot.


George Gustafson (upper left) was his coach and my gym teacher. Tamalpais high school named the gym after Gus, the same gym George Lucas filmed the sock hop scene for American Graffiti.

[red dog 1]

85. John Cipollina, lead guitarist & co-founder of Quicksilver Messenger Service, also went to

Tamalpais High School....as did Tupac Shakur

Speaking of Pat Paulson - In 1971, he and his wife started Pat Paulson Vineyards, which became a successful winery in Sonoma County.
Shortly after Clint Eastwood was elected mayor of Carmel, CA, Pausen invented the office of "mayor" of Asti, the small town near his vineyard, "and proclaimed himself to have assumed the office."

[Brother Buzz]

88. Cipollina was way before my time and I never met him, however....

Bill Champlin (The Sons of Champlin) and most of the band members were my contemporaries and attended Tam. Clover was another Tam band that had modest local success, that is, until Huey Lewis joined and the band changed its name. Huey attended my junior high school but did not attend Tamalpais (apparently he got sent off to a private high school school back east).

Paulson's 'Refrigerator White' was a most respectable front porch libation; his 'Gothic Red' was just alright, but his label always cracked me up deserved high marks.

[red dog 1]

89. lol

[Freddie]

101. Clover was the backing musicians

For Elvis Costello's first album, "My Aim Is True."

[VOX]

64. Morris "Moe" Berg, eccentric MLB catcher and coach, served as a spy with the O.S.S. in WWII.

A fascinating guy, very strange and extremely gifted. Like many such minds, he found ordinary life difficult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_Berg
Morris "Moe" Berg (March 2, 1902 – May 29, 1972) was an American catcher and coach in Major League Baseball who later served as a spy for the Office of Strategic Services during World War II. Although he played 15 seasons in the major leagues, almost entirely for four American League teams, Berg was never more than an average player, usually used as a backup catcher, and was better known for being "the brainiest guy in baseball" than for anything he accomplished in the game. Casey Stengel once described Berg as "the strangest man ever to play baseball."

A graduate of Princeton University and Columbia Law School, Berg spoke several languages and regularly read 10 newspapers a day. His reputation was fueled by his successful appearances as a contestant on the radio quiz show Information, Please, in which he answered questions about the derivation of words and names from Greek and Latin, historical events in Europe and the Far East, and ongoing international conferences.

As a spy working for the government of the United States, Berg traveled to Yugoslavia to gather intelligence on resistance groups the U.S. government was considering supporting. He was then sent on a mission to Italy, where he interviewed various physicists concerning the German nuclear program. After the war, Berg was occasionally employed by the OSS's successor, the Central Intelligence Agency, but, by the mid-1950s, was unemployed. He spent the last two decades of his life without work, living with various siblings.
<snip>
In 1951, Berg begged the CIA to send him to Israel. "A Jew must do this", he wrote in his notebook. The CIA rejected Berg's request. Still, in 1952 Berg was hired by the CIA to use his old contacts from World War II to gather information about the Soviet atomic science. For the $10,000 plus expenses that Berg received, the CIA received nothing. The CIA officer who spoke with Berg when he returned from Europe said that he was "flaky."

For the next 20 years, Berg had no real job, living off friends and relatives who put up with him because of his charisma. When they asked what he did for a living, he would reply by putting his finger to his lips, giving them the impression that he was still a spy. A lifelong bachelor, he lived with his brother Samuel for 17 years. According to Samuel, he became moody and snappish after the war and did not seem to care for much in life besides his books. His brother finally grew fed up with the arrangement and asked Moe to leave and even had eviction papers drawn up. After being evicted from his brother's home, Berg moved in with his sister Ethel in Belleville, New Jersey, where he remained for the rest of his life.
<snip>

[red dog 1]

68. Interesting story

Nicholas Dawidoff wrote a biography about him called:
"The Catcher Was a Spy: The Mysterious Life of Moe Berg" [1994]
A biographical film, "The Catcher Was a Spy" starring Paul Rudd, had it's premiere at the 2018 Sundance Film Festival last January.

Also, this year, Moe Berg will be the subject of a new film by documentarian Aviva Kempner.

I wonder why he didn't try to find work as a baseball coach during those last 20 years of his life? [Perhaps at a small college or at a high school somewhere]

[VOX]

71. I bought that volume when it hit the indy bookstore shelf...

And it was the first in-depth book I read on him, and it is indeed a fascinating story. I suspect, because we’re more educated on the subject today, that Berg was on the autism scale to some degree. All the hallmarks are there: being considered “strange” or “eccentric” by most who knew him; the intellectual focus and ability to learn as many as 12 languages; his social awkwardness, which allowed him to unpack (in scholarly detail) a particular subject that was meaningful to him.

This is an excellent descriptive paragraph from the SABR site here: https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/e1e65b3b
<snip>
Moe Berg was destined to be not a slayer of dragons but a maverick who went beyond the borders of ordinary life. Berg had a nervous vitality about his person. His movements were animal-like. He appeared to be a person out of sync and out of sympathy with his environment. Moe Berg was in a world by himself, passionately interested in knowledge for its own sake. He was also quick to share this knowledge to anyone who cared to listen to him. In essence he was a free spirit. John Kieran, a former sports columnist for the New York Times, called Moe "The most scholarly athlete I ever knew."
<snip>

[red dog 1]

86. Since he was "quick to share (his) knowledge to anyone who cared to listen to him,"

he probably would have made a very good teacher.
Knowing all those languages, plus his experience as a major league ballplayer and coach, he likely could have taught foreign languages, and also could have been a successful baseball coach, especially at the high-school level.

[VOX]

94. If he lived today, he might have had an easier time with "fitting in."

His eccentricities would be more accepted (and perhaps even understood, especially in academia) early on.

He would have made an excellent coach, many of the best coaches and manager have played catcher, the one position in baseball that faces outward.

[red dog 1]

103. Yes, it sounds like he would have made an excellent baseball coach

I wonder if he ever even tried to get a job as a high school or college baseball coach during the last 20 years of his life, when he probably could have used the money.

(I want to see that movie about him that came out in January)

[underpants]

91. They did a movie of it?

Excellent. Great story and great book.

[NNadir]

75. During World War II, he was sent to Switzerland by the OSS to assassinate Werner Heisenberg.

He didn't go through with it.

This tale is told, if I recall correctly, in the book Heisenberg's War, by Thomas Powers.

[USALiberal]

65. Bill Gates pays my monthly electric bill. nt

[flying_wahini]

112. Why? Does he owe you money?

[GReedDiamond]

66. Buffalo Springfield drummer Dewey Martin was a friend of mine...

...and in 1979, I was in a band called "Scott Thomas Lowe & Atascadero" which in its early live performance incarnation in Los Angeles California circa 1978-1979 had Dewey Martin on drums, while I was a "backup singer/performance artist" with the band.

By sometime in 1979, Dewey (who was working as a car mechanic!) moved on from Atascadero and sold to me his vintage Oak Lawn badge Camco drum kit - for $800 - which he used when he recorded "For What It's Worth" with Buffalo Springfield.

Dewey purchased the Camcos through the Professional Drum Shop in Hollywood CA during the time that the Camco factory was in Oak Lawn, Illinois, and at the same time that I lived in the next town over from Oak Lawn - Tinley Park IL, circa 1964-66.

I have used that same Camco drum kit on all of my records released between 1980-the present.

[red dog 1]

67. What band are you in now?

Atascadero played on The Gong Show in 1978, I think..It's up on You Tube

[GReedDiamond]

72. Yes, Atascadero played on the Gong Show way back when...

...I was backstage, as I did not have a part on the song they performed.

This was after Dewey was gone, and before I became the drummer shortly after the Gong Show performance.

One of the guitar player's brother posted the video to YouTube, so he called it something like "Pete on the Gong Show."

The latest project I am involved in is called Green Sparkle Frog (link to ReverbNation) -- and also at www.GreenSparkleFrog.com.

Some others were Benedict Arnold & The Traitors, Marshall OBoy & The Well Hungarians (the lead singer was a gay porn star, I was the token straight guy in the band), Pendu Femelle, The Hundredth Monkey, which released 12" vinyl in 1987 called "Mute Lament" which featured cover art by the legendary lowbrow/pop surrealist painter Robert Williams and which may sometimes be found on Ebay -- and here's a link to Atascadero's web site.

[Niagara]

69. Former First Lady Jackie Kennedy

was engaged to a wall street banker named John Husted before meeting JFK. She broke the engagement off basically because she was weary of being a housewife.

smoked three packs of cigarettes a day for over 40 years, apparently the press was not allowed to mention that she smoked or photograph her smoking.

worked for Viking Press and then Doubleday as associate editor. She edited Michael Jackson's 1988 autobiography "Moonwalk"

[maxrandb]

70. Keith Moon was Godfather to Ringo's son Zach

and gave him his first drum kit. Zack Starkey is now, and has been for more than 20 years, the drummer for The Who.

[Cicada]

76. Einstein patented a safer refrigerator

Einstein read a sad story in the paper about a family killed by ammonia leaking from their refrigerator. He thought there should be a safer design. He contacted Leo Szilard, who later invented a thing called the atomic bomb, to work on it with him. In nine months they invented and patented a revolutionary safer refrigerator. They sold the patent to the Swedish company Electrolux. Freon was then discovered as a safe alternative to ammonia so the old cheaper refrigerators prevailed. But the Einstein Szilard design is used today in many industrial applications.

[DetlefK]

77. Charlie Chaplin was a fan of Jerry Lewis.

His daughter once recalled in an interview how a geriatric Charlie Chaplin sat in front of a TV, watching a Jerry Lewis-comedy, and remarked: "That bastard is good!"

[red dog 1]

84. In early 1942, J.D. Salinger started dating teenager Oona O'Neill, daughter of Eugene O'Neill

He was madly in love with her.
Later that spring, Salinger was drafted into the army.
He wrote Oona long letters from Europe,and, at one point, she stopped replying to them.
Months later, he read in a newspaper that she had married Charlie Chaplin.
He was heartbroken.

[Freddie]

102. Salinger liked teenage girls

In the 70's he persuaded Joyce Maynard, now a writer, to drop out of college to live with him. She was 17 or 18. Her star-struck parents *encouraged this* (it was the 70s). According to her book about it, he was selfish and domineering as well as a recluse. He eventually got tired of her and sent her back home to her parents.

[DetlefK]

80. Putin once shut down a newspaper for writing about his marriage.

Putin married his wife because the KGB only promoted married men.

After his return from East-Germany, which his wife liked very, very much, he worked hard to keep his family out of the spotlight.

In 2006 or so, a russian newspaper wrote an article that there had been rumors that there's trouble in Putin's marriage and that they wish them all the best.

One week later the newspaper was shut down.

[DetlefK]

81. Julian Assange has a fetish for women from exotic countries who have been through civil war.

Screenshots of his old online-dating profile are still online.

He thinks that western women are boring and pampered. No, what he wants is an exciting woman from an exciting country, where she has grown in character and intelligence through all sorts of hardships.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8199545/WikiLeaks-Julian-Assanges-online-dating-profile-I-am-danger-achtung.html

He said applicants should be "of high intelligence, though not necessarily formally educated" and "be able to think strategically about the world and the people she cares about".

"I like women from countries that have sustained political turmoil," he wrote. "Western culture seems to forge women that are valueless and inane. OK. Not only women!"

[red dog 1]

90. "He thinks that western women are boring and pampered"?

Isn't Sweden a "western" country?

I guess those 2 Swedish women were "exceptions to the rule"

The rape charge against him was dropped; but I think the other Swedish woman's sexual assault charge against him still stands

[red dog 1]

87. Robin Williams began his career doing stand-up comedy at a comedy club in San Francisco

called the Holy City Zoo, where he worked his way up from tending bar to getting on stage.

[underpants]

93. Where are the other two threads?

I love reading this. Lost it earlier in the day (work got in the way) and it was on page 7 of Latest threads when I found it.

[haele]

97. When he was 12, the actor David Janssen took and broke my 8 year old father's cap rifle playing Army

Of course, it was probably my own Uncle David, dad's older brother, who egged him on. He became friends later on with my great-uncle and aunt, who were peripherally involved with New York and Hollywood theater, not knowing they were relatives with my dad and uncle.

I met David Janssen in Malibu around 1979 at my great-aunt's, a year before he passed. I told him he owed my dad a cap gun from back in 1946. He asked about my uncle (who had been an old jr. high school buddy) and for my dad's address. He sent him a nice "oops, sorry" letter.

Haele

[red dog 1]

98. Peter Bogdanovich was going to make "The Getaway" with Steve McQueen

Bogdanovich and Walter Hill worked on the script together in San Francisco while Bogdanovich was directing "What's Up, Doc"
They had completed 25 pages when they went back to L.A., whereupon McQueen fired Bogdanovich without reading any of their work.
Sam Peckinpah came on to direct - Hill started from scratch and wrote his own script in six weeks.
The resulting movie was a big hit which Hill later described:
"of the films I wrote, I thought it was far and away the best one, and most interesting."
He said the success of the film "was really how I became a director; the fact it had done so well put me in line to get a shot."

[red dog 1]

100. At age 8, cartoonist John Callahan was molested by a female teacher

He began drinking at the age of twelve.
"I used the alcohol to hide the pain of the abuse," he said.

[mitch96]

104. Actor Rip Torn is a really nice guy

He was friends with my aunt and we had dinner together at her place.. We talked about gliders/sail planes. Did not look anything like his Men in Black role.. His wife Geraldine (Gerry) Page, another actor was very shy.. Amazes me how shy people can go on to be actors..
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[red dog 1]

106. In 1976, Jane Fonda convinced her husband, Tom Hayden, to challenge Democratic U.S. Senator

John V. Tunney, in the California primary election.
Hayden, financed by Fonda, spent many thousands of dollars running attack ads against Tunney, a liberal, which weakened his support in the November election, thus allowing ultra-right-wing conservative S.I. Hayakawa to win Tunney's Senate seat.
That seat remained in Republican hands for 14 years, thanks to Tom Hayden & Jane Fonda.
Tunney would have won reelection easily over Hayakawa were it not for Hayden's primary challenge to Tunney.