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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsWhy is it we can't have real variety shows like the Ed Sullivan Show these days?
Just people performing for our entertainment. No washed up judges. No buzzers. No stupid X's.
Can Americans do anything without turning it into a fucking competition?

lapfog_1
(28,532 posts)madaboutharry
(39,741 posts)
unblock
(51,672 posts)rownesheck
(2,341 posts)In fact, when i look at most things that are "popular" on tv, i see how we ended up with dipshit as *president.
Duppers
(27,964 posts)With the exception of MSNBC, some CNN, PBS, Nat Geo, science channel & a few sporting events*, my household does not watch ANYthing else.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)spectator sports remain so enduringly popular. No one knows the outcome, not even the participants.
Does anyone think "American Idol" would have become a ratings giant if they just showed random strangers singing cover tunes? Like it or not, the competition aspects makes these shows.
Besides, late night talk shows pretty much grabbed the baton from Ed Sullivan, and we have tons of them now. Opening monologue, comedy skits, interviews, a stand-up performance, a musical act. Thank you, goodnight.
Jake Stern
(3,143 posts)Watching artists perform, not because they're trying to win a million dollars or a recording contract, but because they want to entertain.
I do agree with the idea that late night has largely taken over for the variety show.
Aristus
(64,882 posts)eighty-five years old?...
Jake Stern
(3,143 posts)Maybe I'm an eighty five year old at heart
Rhiannon12866
(195,317 posts)I just loved The Lennon Sisters! There was even a series of books where they had adventures - I had those too! Good memories...
MissMillie
(38,140 posts)they let us watch pretty much whatever we wanted any other time, but when LW was on, we watched it.
Jake Stern
(3,143 posts)so much so that when Welk came on whatever you were watching went off!
Brother Buzz
(35,407 posts)I have it on good authority, they just love that good old wholesome entertainment.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)pwb
(10,675 posts)And dating .
elfin
(6,262 posts)Variety with wit.
She and her cast were just too wonderful.
onlyadream
(2,154 posts)Floyd R. Turbo
(24,349 posts)hated the French clowns!
Eddie, kissa me goodnight!
msongs
(66,678 posts)things together at home much of the time, thus variety shows appealing to a variety of family members.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Grammy23
(5,800 posts)It ran from the sublime to the ridiculous. Roberta Peters followed by the guy spinning plates. But it was always entertaining and Sullivan made sure it was suitable for the whole family. If you dont like the current act, hold on tight, something different will be up in 5 minutes. Topo Gigio, the Little Italian Mouse.

Gotta love it!
Jake Stern
(3,143 posts)That is a big part of it. Not ashamed to say my partner, our son and I watch The Waltons, a show I'd never even dreamed of watching before I became a parent.
Aristus
(64,882 posts)that it was an icon of conservative entertainment. The truth is, Earl Hamner, Jr. and many of the cast of the show, including Ralph Waite and Will Geer, were liberal activists.
I loved the show, and those opening credits with that elegiac trumpet melody...
Grasswire2
(13,449 posts)And I think the show could be instructional for a people whose living standard is still diminishing. Thrift to the extreme. A cooperative family. And yet they were so rich, in enduring ways. Goodnight, Grandpa.
mahatmakanejeeves
(55,216 posts)Do you get over-the-air TV? You know, TV the way G*d intended it to be? I do. Even if you don't, you probably have Netflix or Hulu available.
Those old variety shows are out there. If the weather's right, I can get channel 13.2 in Baltimore, which is Decades. (I am in northern Virginia. Due to some quirk, TV stations in Baltimore are easier to get than TV stations in DC.) Decades shows reruns of Ed Sullivan.
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Programming
See also: List of programs broadcast by Decades
Decades relies primarily on programming from the extensive content library owned by CBS Television Distribution, which includes the pre-2006 Paramount Television library which CBS had acquired as a result of absorbing Paramount's syndication unit in 2006 through its split from Viacom into a separate company along with series from Desilu Productions, Bing Crosby Productions, Don Fedderson Productions, QM Productions, Spelling Television and Republic Pictures Television. Decades also carries series and movies from NBCUniversal, Warner Bros., 20th Century Fox, Sony Pictures Entertainment, Paramount Pictures, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Lionsgate, Sonar Entertainment, the Peter Rodgers Organization, Shout! Factory, The Carsey-Werner Company and the public domain.
In order to stand out from other "retro-TV" multicast services (such as MeTV and Antenna TV), the Monday through Friday schedule initially featured a block of programming based on a daily theme, with interstitials to highlight the theme. Each six-hour block of programming was repeated four times a day and typically included a feature film, episodes of theme related TV programs, and biographical programs featuring celebrities, actors and actresses, musicians, athletes, and public figures of interest. The theme blocks were bookended with Through the Decades, an hour-long program hosted and narrated by Bill Kurtis (who formerly served as an anchor for Chicago CBS O&O WBBM-TV and CBS News) that explores the events and news from a particular day or period in history, using archival footage that CBS owns via services such as CBS News and CBS Television Distribution's syndicated newsmagazine program Entertainment Tonight.
The network's Saturday and Sunday schedule features "binge" blocks of classic television series. Beginning on Saturday at 1:00 p.m. (ET), forty-two consecutive hours are devoted to a particular series, which is usually sourced from either the CBS Television Distribution library of shows or a show Weigel Broadcasting has a contract to carry (such as one of the shows it broadcasts on MeTV).
Airings of The Dick Cavett Show were added to the schedule February 1, 2016 within the daily themed block, as appropriate. Episodes from Cavett's late-night ABC talk show from 1969 to 1974 as well as his later interview series on PBS, USA, and CNBC were all made available for airing.
On November 1, 2016, a major change was made to the programming lineup, with the daily programming block reduced to two airings daily (one from mid-morning to mid-afternoon, the other in overnight) as the 2:00 p.m. to midnight (ET) time period was converted to a "daily binge" with a different show airing each day. During the month of November, a different "cop show" was aired each weekday; in December, sitcoms were featured, and in January 2017, shows that aired in 1957, 1967, 1977, 1987 and 1997 were featured.
A further shift in direction from the original channel concept came on December 5, 2016, when the network added two daily airings of the NBC series Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, the first breaking the daily binge in half at 6:00 p.m. (ET) and the same show repeating at the conclusion of the binge time block. The themed block was also modified to include a daily airing of The Dick Cavett Show at the starting point of each day's block.
On January 2, 2017, the weekday schedule was further altered by the addition of back-to-back airings of two episodes of Ripley's Believe it or Not! at 5:00 p.m. (ET); it is followed by two separate episodes of Laugh-In at 6:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m., Through The Decades at 7:00 p.m. and 10:00 p.m. (but without the associated themed programming), and a different episode of The Dick Cavett Show from the one in the themed block airing at 8:00 p.m. The "daily binge" then resumes at 11:00 p.m. until the daily themed block replay at 2:00 a.m.
The weekend "binge" schedule remained unchanged through the late-2016/early-2017 weekday changes.
As of 2018, Decades began airing a collection of series that had lapsed into the public domain: The Great Gildersleeve, Topper, The Bob Cummings Show, Life with Elizabeth, The Loretta Young Show and Annie Oakley.
Check to see if you can get it on your television gadget thingy too.
"elfin," in post #7, mentions Carol Burnett. I've seen that not too long ago on one of the OTA (over-the-air) networks (MeTV, Antenna TV, something like that).
HTH
onlyadream
(2,154 posts)With a modern flare.
Its true that the late night shows do this, in a way, but theres nothing on prime time that is wholesome, good natured fun. Someone has to be voted out, or people have to conspire to stay on. What does this say about our culture? Even worse, we elected a reality TV star, who turned the white House into its own reality show! What have we become?
Jake Stern
(3,143 posts)Reality TV culture has got us a reality TV president.
It also produced an attitude where if you ask for wholesome/family friendly/kid friendly entertainment people instantly peg you as a conservative religious nutjob.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)volstork
(5,376 posts)had something in the works. May have fizzled out, though...
TexasBushwhacker
(19,428 posts)He did Best Time Ever on NBC in 2015. It only lasted 8 episodes.
Freddie
(9,082 posts)Fascinating life. Started his career as a sportswriter.
Towards the end of the show he had real trouble finding entertainment "for everyone" or at least acts that would appeal to young people and not offend the oldsters. His favorite rock group was the Dave Clark Five because they were so clean-cut.
The show was his life, and he died only a year or two after it was cancelled by CBS.
red dog 1
(26,825 posts)I liked Ed Sullivan, (but I hated Topo Gigio)
defacto7
(13,485 posts)but I hate reality TV.
red dog 1
(26,825 posts)The one he did in the 1960s, five days a week, from The Vine Street Playhouse.
He would have bizarre guests like Brother Theodore & Gypsy Boots.....Great show!
(I also miss The Dick Cavett Show, and The Gong Show)
llmart
(15,120 posts)He could make me laugh just looking at his silly faces.
"Hey, Gertrude."
red dog 1
(26,825 posts)red dog 1
(26,825 posts)the Wikipedia article on him is very good.
It's a fairly long article, but well-worth reading if you have the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Sullivan
Ed Sullivan was quick to take offense if he felt that he had been crossed, and he could hold a grudge for a long time
As he told biographer Gerald Nachman: "I'm a pop-off. I flare up, then I go around apologizing."
Snellius
(6,881 posts)Grasswire2
(13,449 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(55,216 posts)The Johnny Cash Show is an American television music variety show hosted by Johnny Cash. The Screen Gems 58-episode series ran from June 7, 1969 to March 31, 1971 on ABC; it was taped at the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville, Tennessee. The show reached No. 17 in the Nielsen ratings in 1970.
History
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The show was canceled in 1971 in response to the Prime Time Access Rule, which eliminated a half-hour of network prime time programming from all of the major networks' nightly schedules. Cash's show was one of many that had strong rural followings that were canceled across the networks in what came to be known as the "rural purge."
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List of episodes
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{snip, but you owe it to yourself to see who he had on as guests.}
GetTV runs the episodes. I didn't watch it, but Neil Diamond was on, performing "Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show." This was Episode 19, form the first season:
by getTV Staff
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4. Season One, Episode 19 July 29 10pm ET
Originally broadcast on February 11, 1970, this episode opens with Johnnys I Got Stripes. Tammy Wynette sings Ill See Him Through and the hit that made her a star two years earlier, Stand By Your Man. Johnny is joined by Neil Diamond for a medley poking fun at Neils Brooklyn roots and then Diamond does a barn-burning rendition of his hit Brother Loves Traveling Salvation Show. Blues legend Ray Charles performs I Cant Stop Loving You and Take These Chains and duets with Johnny on Busted. Johnny performs Rock Island Line and Flesh And Blood, the Statlers sing One Song Away, and the ensemble closes the show with Roll In My Sweet Babys Arms.
1970s Episode Guide for 'The Johnny Cash Show':