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Which is correct?--Whomever you choose will have to--OR--Whoever you choose will have to-- (Original Post) bobbieinok Dec 2018 OP
Have you tried yellerpup Dec 2018 #1
whomever. raging moderate Dec 2018 #2
One of the tough ones. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2018 #3
Thanks for very helpful link bobbieinok Dec 2018 #4
Uh, yeah. I get thrown by this usage too. Checking to be sure: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2018 #5
NOOOOOOOoooooooo! Hotler Dec 2018 #6
If you like to write you may also like this, Hotler Dec 2018 #7
I have that one 2naSalit Dec 2018 #8
Whomever. You rearrange the word order so it's something like The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #9
Yep, rewrite the sentence so it's less awkward. Iggo Dec 2018 #10
Reason I asked the question--I see this structure a lot in contemporary novels bobbieinok Dec 2018 #11
I always that that MissMillie Dec 2018 #12

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,298 posts)
3. One of the tough ones.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:51 AM
Dec 2018

Scroll down to the bottom.

Whoever vs. Whomever Revisited

In the “English Rules” section of our website, GrammarBook.com, you will find our simple explanation for determining whether to use who or whom.

Briefly, this is the trick:
who = he (subject pronouns)
whom = him (object pronouns)

Example: Who/Whom is at the door?
He is at the door.

Example: For who/whom should I vote?
Should I vote for him?

To determine whether to use whoever or whomever, the he/him trick still applies:
he (subject case) = whoever
him (object case) = whomever

Rule 1: In the objective case, the use of whoever or whomever is determined by the pronoun’s position in the object.

Examples:
Give it to whoever/whomever asks for it first.
Whoever is correct because it is the subject of the independent clause whoever asks for it first. This entire independent clause is the object of the preposition to.

We will hire whoever/whomever you recommend.
Whomever is correct because it is the object of you recommend. The independent clause whomever you recommend is the direct object of will hire.

We will hire whoever/whomever is most qualified.
Whoever is correct because it is the subject of the independent clause whoever is most qualified. This entire independent clause is the direct object of will hire.

Rule 2: In the subjective case, the use of whoever or whomever is determined by the pronoun’s position in the subject.

Examples:
Whoever/Whomever is elected will serve a four-year term.
Whoever is correct because it is the subject of the independent clause Whoever is elected, which is the subject of the sentence.

Whoever/Whomever you elect will serve a four-year term.
Whomever is correct because it is the object of you elect. Whomever you elect is the subject of the sentence.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
4. Thanks for very helpful link
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 11:53 AM
Dec 2018

So 'whomever you choose' is a clause, which is then the subject of will have to.

And 'whomever' is object of choose

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,298 posts)
5. Uh, yeah. I get thrown by this usage too. Checking to be sure:
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:04 PM
Dec 2018
Examples:
Whoever/Whomever is elected will serve a four-year term.
Whoever is correct because it is the subject of the independent clause Whoever is elected, which is the subject of the sentence.

Whoever/Whomever you elect will serve a four-year term.
Whomever is correct because it is the object of you elect. [The clause] "Whomever you elect" is the subject of the sentence.

Hotler

(11,396 posts)
7. If you like to write you may also like this,
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:24 PM
Dec 2018

A Writer's Reference, by Diana Hacker. I was introduced to it in college English and have kept one around since. You can find them in used book stores or college book stores. It is a quick and handy grammar reference.
https://www.amazon.com/Writers-Reference-Diana-Hacker/dp/0312450257

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
8. I have that one
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:04 PM
Dec 2018

and another which I haven't seen in years but it's in my "desk stuff box" under the table. I don't write much anymore.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,593 posts)
9. Whomever. You rearrange the word order so it's something like
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:13 PM
Dec 2018

"You have to chose" -- "who" or "whom." In that arrangement it's clear that the word should be the object, so it's "whomever you choose." You want an object, not a subject.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
11. Reason I asked the question--I see this structure a lot in contemporary novels
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:04 PM
Dec 2018

And its presence causes my reading to 'stumble'.

MissMillie

(38,533 posts)
12. I always that that
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 02:26 PM
Dec 2018

"whom" was used after a preposition (to whom, from whom, for whom)

and "who" was used when it was the subject (who will be my friend? who will drive me to work?)

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