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graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 03:26 PM Jul 2012

I'm buying a new bed. Any suggestions or recommendations?

I've tried Tempurpedic but don't like the idea of the heat. I looked at a Serta with gel that looks promising. Anyone know anything about latex mattress toppers--if they are any good?

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I'm buying a new bed. Any suggestions or recommendations? (Original Post) graywarrior Jul 2012 OP
Firm. They last longer. Get an egg-shell foam mattress topper from K-Mart. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #1
I like beds that squeek like hell Major Nikon Jul 2012 #19
Squeek or squeak? graywarrior Jul 2012 #41
Both Major Nikon Jul 2012 #45
Squeeeee! graywarrior Jul 2012 #50
No, no, no. Squeeeee is the kitteh attacking your toes in bed. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #71
No, squeeeee is gazing upon a picture of Alan Rickman graywarrior Jul 2012 #75
Okay. I give. Who the hell is that? HopeHoops Jul 2012 #81
Silly...he played Snape in Harry Potter graywarrior Jul 2012 #82
I saw the first one quite some time ago. Was Snape the guy who played Dr. Lazarus in Galaxy Quest? HopeHoops Jul 2012 #90
Yes graywarrior Jul 2012 #91
My wife BROKE a bed frame. I'm not kidding. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #68
I think we've all been there a time or two Major Nikon Jul 2012 #72
I wouldn't mind if she broke another one. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #73
I have a topper. GoCubsGo Jul 2012 #2
I have a softside wb .. littlewolf Jul 2012 #3
The memory foam mattress pads are a godsend regardless of your mattress... LanternWaste Jul 2012 #4
Try it out in the store. bluedigger Jul 2012 #5
The cops would be called if I did that....lol graywarrior Jul 2012 #10
We just got the I-Comfort . We used to have a memory foam topper on our old bed. haele Jul 2012 #6
Excellent! graywarrior Jul 2012 #11
If you have allergies noamnety Jul 2012 #7
Hmmmm, I've been thinking about buying a water pillow. graywarrior Jul 2012 #12
Sleep Innovations Memory Foam Matress MicaelS Jul 2012 #8
Looks like it doesn't weight very much. graywarrior Jul 2012 #13
Looks are deceiving.. MicaelS Jul 2012 #15
Wow! graywarrior Jul 2012 #16
6 months.. MicaelS Jul 2012 #20
My biggest issue is that I have fibromyalgia that keeps me awake most of the night graywarrior Jul 2012 #24
I would hazard a guess and say YES... MicaelS Jul 2012 #30
Looks like I have more homework to do graywarrior Jul 2012 #32
Take some time, and read the reviews on Amazon n/t. MicaelS Jul 2012 #34
I will, and thanks for your help! graywarrior Jul 2012 #37
Glad to be of help, best wishes! ... MicaelS Jul 2012 #42
I sure will! graywarrior Jul 2012 #44
Laz has Fibromyalgia and psoriatic arthritis - haele Jul 2012 #47
I wonder if I could get paid as a bed tester. graywarrior Jul 2012 #49
I don't know the brand DFW Jul 2012 #9
I just spent the last few minutes looking at their site and most of the ratings graywarrior Jul 2012 #14
Would you believe it? I never looked at the ratings. DFW Jul 2012 #23
I almost want to call them and ask them what brand it is...lol graywarrior Jul 2012 #25
I DID ask!!!! DFW Jul 2012 #28
I found out that Marriott gets their mattresses from a company called Jamison graywarrior Jul 2012 #29
Wouldn't do me any good from here anyway (stationed in Germany). DFW Jul 2012 #31
I'll bet they're different graywarrior Jul 2012 #33
Might just be bureaucracy DFW Jul 2012 #35
Meanwhile, we get no sleep. graywarrior Jul 2012 #38
Duck Down! No question! Duck Down! ohiosmith Jul 2012 #17
Hahahahahahaha! graywarrior Jul 2012 #18
Oh, GEEZ!!! Not this again. MiddleFingerMom Jul 2012 #22
. graywarrior Jul 2012 #27
Bravo! ohiosmith Jul 2012 #36
We've had a pillow top mattress for 15 years, and i still love it. hedgehog Jul 2012 #21
I need 10 bedrooms, each with a different mattress! graywarrior Jul 2012 #26
Something horizontal and flat works best for me Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2012 #39
Unlike hanging from a tree branch like a sloth? graywarrior Jul 2012 #40
That's reserved for the weekends Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2012 #43
LOL graywarrior Jul 2012 #51
My daughter says they don't use boxsprings anymore. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #46
You could probably make your own mattress with all of the duck feathers you have!!! madinmaryland Jul 2012 #48
You're a fucking laugh riot. graywarrior Jul 2012 #52
You should get a wall bed. rug Jul 2012 #53
I'd need a hose leading into the bathroom graywarrior Jul 2012 #55
It's waterproof. rug Jul 2012 #57
So I could pee in the duct tape? graywarrior Jul 2012 #59
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don't get any of those new-fangled vertical ones ... zbdent Jul 2012 #54
How about a hammock? graywarrior Jul 2012 #56
It has to be big enough for the whole Lounge Angry Dragon Jul 2012 #58
I never thought of that! graywarrior Jul 2012 #60
Check out bed in a box. westerebus Jul 2012 #61
I never heard of that! graywarrior Jul 2012 #62
Good company. westerebus Jul 2012 #63
OK, I will research their beds graywarrior Jul 2012 #65
I am not the person to ask Generic Brad Jul 2012 #64
By choice? Like for medical reasons? graywarrior Jul 2012 #66
By choice Generic Brad Jul 2012 #85
My suggestion... WillParkinson Jul 2012 #67
OK, but I have to warn you graywarrior Jul 2012 #69
Actually... WillParkinson Jul 2012 #70
Cool. Let's make a plan. graywarrior Jul 2012 #74
Is that animal a domestic cat? nt zanana1 Jul 2012 #76
We were staying at my brother's house... zanana1 Jul 2012 #77
No graywarrior Jul 2012 #79
That's good to know. zanana1 Jul 2012 #92
Yes, they will rip your face off easily graywarrior Jul 2012 #93
latex mattress toppers? Is that what the kids call them now? Ptah Jul 2012 #78
WTF? graywarrior Jul 2012 #80
A Murphy bed. kwassa Jul 2012 #83
I'd need to build a wall. graywarrior Jul 2012 #84
Get a hospital bed. I kid you not. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #86
I thought hospital beds were uncomfortable so you wouldn't stay long graywarrior Jul 2012 #87
I got one about 15 years ago from an in-law who "no longer needed it"... NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #88
I am gonna check the sleep number bed this weekend graywarrior Jul 2012 #89
I agree. zanana1 Jul 2012 #96
Even Tempurpedic makes a mattress for hospital beds, so, yes! NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #94
We just bought an IComfort, 3 years, no finance charge, free pillows and mattress cover graywarrior Jul 2012 #95
 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
90. I saw the first one quite some time ago. Was Snape the guy who played Dr. Lazarus in Galaxy Quest?
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:30 AM
Jul 2012

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
2. I have a topper.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 04:02 PM
Jul 2012

I really like it. It's one that was bought separate from the mattress. It gives you the best of both worlds. And, you can replace it if it loses its cushion. My advice is to get one as thick as you can afford. Overstock.com usually has some pretty good deals. You can probably get a good one at TJ Maxx, Ross, or Tuesday Morning, too.

My mattress is a Sealy, but I recall that the Sertas were equally nice.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
4. The memory foam mattress pads are a godsend regardless of your mattress...
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 04:13 PM
Jul 2012

The memory foam mattress pads are a godsend regardless of your mattress. I bought two queen-size pads (each 4" in depth) at Target (total $50.00). One atop the other and it was as though I was sleeping on a little bit of heaven here on earth. Three years later and they hold up better than the mattress itself.

haele

(12,646 posts)
6. We just got the I-Comfort . We used to have a memory foam topper on our old bed.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 04:17 PM
Jul 2012

And since I always look up these things before I purchase, I learned a lot.

First, Memory foam mattresses -
A 100% memory foam mattress like Temperpedic, SleepNova (or whatever Costco calls their memory foam mattresses now) or even the I-Comfort will always go a bit saggy and soft after a bit of use due to temperature reaction, so if you don't have a good box-spring that can support it, I wouldn't suggest getting a "solid" memory foam mattress. Buy the firmest one you can find, to keep it from going too soft and you end up sinking down to the support. At 210 and 290 lbs with all sorts of aches, pains, and arthritis, we decided to go with the I-comfort Genius (the most firm mattress) with the supporting box-spring, and it's held it's firmness better than my FIL's Temperpedic did three years ago. Within a couple weeks, the bed will start to soften and should be at it's normal support level within a month and a half. What you really have to watch out for is the edge support, which is another reason we bought the I-Comfort - you don't want to "scoop" off the bed when you roll over near the edge, and there's no sinking to the box-spring if you decide to sit on the side of the bed. Look for a minimum of 6 lb density foam in a mattress to be able to return to shape after supporting a human body. And remember, you cannot just "live" on a memory foam mattress, using it as a couch or work-area like you might do to a regular bed; the memory foam mattress should just be for sleeping if you want to be able to sleep on it without hitting the box-spring after five years.
And you should get a box spring; bed "platforms" hurt when your expensive memory foam bed starts to sag. You need something that will be firm yet have a bit of give if you got a mattress that was too soft to begin with.

The I-comfort Gel does "sleep" significantly cooler than other latex foam mattresses, though it will still seem a bit warm in the morning when you wake up. We had this issue with the 3" memory foam topper on our old bed, so I'm pretty sure it's one of those "to be expected" situations when you're dealing with a product that conforms to your body shape; there's little room for the air to pass between skin and bed surface.
There's another mattress - Beautyrest - out there that is advertising to be a mix of coils and very thick memory foam; I haven't had a chance to test that one out, but it looks interesting.
You should always test a similar bed before purchasing, and don't just plop down saying "this feels nice", but actually take a book and lay down on it in a sleeping position for at least ten to fifteen minutes so you have a feel for how it will start to react to your weight and body heat. Bring your partner if you can, so you can see how it will react to the both of you. And ignore the hard-sell; they'll want you in and out of there with a purchase, but with good beds starting at around $1K for a simple queen, it's a serious investment. Test out several, and do it over several days, if you can. You don't want to buy it and then decide you might not have wanted it.

And now for the foam mattress toppers -
If you decide to get a good but cheaper spring bed and add a memory foam mattress topper, first make sure you get a good mattress to begin with, and then a good topper. After the old pillow-top Beautyrest bed hit 15 years about seven years ago, we got a very good 3" memory foam at 4.5 lb density (plus a "cool fabric" 1" quilted casing) at Costco for a reasonable price - but that was seven years ago and I don't have a good handle on what the quality is now. Many toppers have the same "blue" cooling gel as the new mattresses do, and those shouldn't require much in the way of added casing fabric.
I would suggest that if you have joint or bone pain issues, buy at least 2 1/2" of high density latex (I figured one inch for every 15 inches of waist dimension to deal with the difference between waist, hip, and shoulder) and at least another inch of quilting. When we got the new topping, it was like getting a new bed - very, very comfortable, and it wasn't until the old mattress started losing springs and a few of the coils broke that we decided to finally replace the bed.
Make sure you can feel or test the topper, as there is cheap packing latex foam (1 to 2 lb density) out there boxed up as bed-quality memory foam (which should be between 3 and 5 lb density) - check the side of the packaging! And don't get it from Wal-Mart, their manufacturing line may carry the same brand label as you would get at Costco or at another bedding store, but it's a totally different QA process, and was built to cheaper standards.

Good luck.

Haele
(edited to change a few words)

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
11. Excellent!
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 05:25 PM
Jul 2012

We looked at the I-Comfort Genius today and also discussed buying a good mattress and then a memory foam topper. That seems like the most reasonable thing to do. Thank you for your amazingly helpful suggestions!

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
7. If you have allergies
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 04:23 PM
Jul 2012

don't rule out a waterbed. Mine saved me from a life of misery. All the dustmites that move into mattresses are miserable if you're allergic to them and there's no way to really get rid of them fully. With a waterbed, when you wash the bedding, you can wipe down the mattress and not have to worry about it. My back's been better as well since there aren't any pressure points. And when it's hot, it's nice to be able to dial down the temp to help keep cool.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
8. Sleep Innovations Memory Foam Matress
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 04:27 PM
Jul 2012

I bought a Full Size 12" model from Amazon. This one. Got free delivery with Amazon Prime.

Been pleased with it, BUT it is EXTREMELY firm. If I had to do it again, I'd buy a 10".

Works with your old box springs.

They come in a box 4' x 2' x 2'. Vacuum packed in a large bag. How to unpack, see video. Takes a few hours to fully expand.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
20. 6 months..
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 06:18 PM
Jul 2012

It took about a month to get used to sleeping on it, it's so firm. Take my advice and buy a 10" or thinner one. The 12" is really too hard, and I like a firm mattress.

Some of points:

(1) The mattress is one sided, can't be turned over. Rotated, but not turned over. Many pillow top mattresses are like this, so it's not a big deal to me.

(2) It has a hand washable (with a washcloth) zippered terry cover on it, BUT if you remove the cover it voids the 20 years warranty. Evidently it keeps the different layers together. The mattress I bought is a 2 layer Sure Temp.

(3) Some people complain of a smell. There was a slight odor for about an hour, then it dissipated.

(4) Some complain it's too hot. I never found this to be the case.

(5) Make sure you have deep fitted sheets.

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
24. My biggest issue is that I have fibromyalgia that keeps me awake most of the night
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 06:25 PM
Jul 2012

I'm wondering if a firm would be too painful.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
30. I would hazard a guess and say YES...
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 06:36 PM
Jul 2012

They do have a 3 layer gel top mattress, but apparently Amazon doesn't sell those. Serta and Silver Rest brands. but not Sleep Innovations. Google "3 layer gel mattress".

Lots of places carry Sleep Innovation.

For the price you really can't go wrong, IMO. $430 for King Mattress, that's made in the USA?

I paid $340 for my full, shipped.

haele

(12,646 posts)
47. Laz has Fibromyalgia and psoriatic arthritis -
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 08:12 PM
Jul 2012

He only had a bit of problem with the I-Comfort the first night (he said it was more like he needed to get used to it, and now thinks he misses the initial firmness!), and he never had any problems with the mattress topper, which was also a firm. If the foam is dense enough - at least 4 or 5 lbs, it spreads the body weight out across the surface so there are no pressure points. He swears by memory foam mattress toppers on normal beds; it has been the only thing that saved his sleep and sanity for the past 7 years until the new bed.

The only other regular bed he ever felt comfortable in was at the Holiday Inn Express in Las Cruces, NM. And that was after a hellish drive on the way to Albuquerque along I-10 through the Xmas snowstorms last winter, after slow traffic and multiple highway closures the entire day. He could barely make it out of the Mazda to get to the room at 8pm that night when we finally found one of the few rooms that was still available in town, and that bed was amazingly comfortable - it almost let us feel as weightless as we do on the new mattress.

Make sure you test the bed out first, no matter what you choose. If it's too soft and clingy, it won't support enough weight to take the pressure off your fibro points. A new, comfortable bed that takes the weight off the pressure points will allow you to sleep so much easier and feel better when you are going about your day.

Haele

DFW

(54,330 posts)
9. I don't know the brand
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 04:33 PM
Jul 2012

But I want one of the beds they have in the Brussels Marriott. Never slept better!

DFW

(54,330 posts)
23. Would you believe it? I never looked at the ratings.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 06:25 PM
Jul 2012

I stay there for one reason only: it's perfectly located for my needs in Brussels. But MAN do I sleep well, when I do. Not that I'm a great fan of the Marriott family--I know who they are and where they come from, both geographically and politically, but security and convenience sometimes have to take precedence (and besides, their Brussels staff knows me, and goes out of their way to help me out of jams, of which I find myself in many!).

DFW

(54,330 posts)
28. I DID ask!!!!
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 06:30 PM
Jul 2012

Their staff had no earthly idea what brand it was, and I couldn't find a label on the mattress itself. FRUSTRATION!!

I'd trade two months' salary to sleep on one of those things at home.

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
29. I found out that Marriott gets their mattresses from a company called Jamison
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 06:31 PM
Jul 2012

But you have to call their 800 number to get the prices. I hate calling those numbers.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
31. Wouldn't do me any good from here anyway (stationed in Germany).
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 06:38 PM
Jul 2012

Besides, I still don't know if the ones they use here in Europe are made by the same company.

However if they are, I wouldn't mind sleeping on them for the rest of my life.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
35. Might just be bureaucracy
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 06:48 PM
Jul 2012

The ones who need to know (i.e. order new ones when a rock band is on town and destroys ten of them), do know, and the rest, who have nothing to do with logistics, never find out because no one ever told them.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
21. We've had a pillow top mattress for 15 years, and i still love it.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 06:21 PM
Jul 2012

The base mattress is very firm with a couple inches of polyfill on top.

Response to rug (Reply #53)

westerebus

(2,976 posts)
61. Check out bed in a box.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 09:52 PM
Jul 2012

I've had mind for four years, has a down topper and I sleep just fine. No issues with being to hot or pressure points.

westerebus

(2,976 posts)
63. Good company.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:06 PM
Jul 2012

I have no complaints and nothing but praise for their product. You will save some money too. Good hunting.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
85. By choice
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:15 PM
Jul 2012

It's so comfy and I sleep extremely well. There's no way I can toss and turn because I'm wedged into a small space.

WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
67. My suggestion...
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 08:59 AM
Jul 2012

You and I get together. Have a couple glasses of wine. Then we proceed to try out the mattresses. <wink, nudge>

zanana1

(6,106 posts)
77. We were staying at my brother's house...
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 02:54 PM
Jul 2012

We were on vacation there and like many couples on vacation, we were feeling amorous. Well, the bed fell with a resounding thud. The next thing we heard was my brother laughing his ass off.

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
84. I'd need to build a wall.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jul 2012

I don't think the manager would allow that. My next door neighbor just let me try her memory foam with gel adjustable bed. Awesome!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
86. Get a hospital bed. I kid you not.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:25 PM
Jul 2012

In our younger years, it's great for kama sutra type things, if you know what I mean and I think you do.

Later on in our glorious journeys, it helps when there are the occasional injures.

Like three broken ribs from a ladder fall on June 5th, if you know what I mean and I think you do!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
88. I got one about 15 years ago from an in-law who "no longer needed it"...
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:37 PM
Jul 2012

Top of the line, with vibrate function, hi and low speed!

Anyway, it turned out to be one of the most comfortable mattresses I'd ever had so I kept it as my main kick.

With the broken ribs I'd still be in a recliner but for the ability to sleep with back tilted up and legs elevated.

I like it.

If I were buying from scratch I'd check out a tempurpedica and a sleep number bed.

I've slept on sleep number beds at hotels, but not for more than two days in a row.

I think I might want the sleep number over the tempurpedic.

Let us know what you do!

zanana1

(6,106 posts)
96. I agree.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:55 AM
Jul 2012

Just buy a more comfortable mattress for it. There are places that sell used hospital equipment, including hospital beds. When my mother was sick, I got one for $90. She loved it.

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