Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

PA_jen

(1,114 posts)
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:09 AM Mar 2021

Anybody have a suggestion for over the counter help?

So I woke up yesterday morning with my right shoulder front all the way around to my back shoulder and shoulder blade. in a dull pain. I think I slept wrong or twisted in my sleep. I am a huge tosser and turner when I sleep. I've done it before. The problem is that Alive isn't working and it is normally a dull pain but every once in a while I get this sharp pain for no rhythm or reason.

I don't want to go to the hospital due to covid. I also had a bad experience which the local hospitals. I don't want t go if I don't actually have too.

26 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Anybody have a suggestion for over the counter help? (Original Post) PA_jen Mar 2021 OP
Try acetomenofen (Tylenol) and heat alfie Mar 2021 #1
If you have a yardstick... DEbluedude Mar 2021 #2
Use a broom handle, if you don't have a yardstick Sanity Claws Mar 2021 #4
That'll work also. I've also used a putter. DEbluedude Mar 2021 #6
How do you feel about going to an orthopedist? Sanity Claws Mar 2021 #3
I wouldn't mind going right now I am extremely scared to go anywhere with covid. PA_jen Mar 2021 #7
Sanity Claws True Dough Mar 2021 #21
No burning Sanity Claws Mar 2021 #22
I just Googled "frozen shoulder" True Dough Mar 2021 #24
It does sound awful Sanity Claws Mar 2021 #25
Dear PA_jen True Dough Mar 2021 #5
I bought new pillows True Blue American Mar 2021 #8
I have been searching for a new pillow actually. PA_jen Mar 2021 #11
Do not get True Blue American Mar 2021 #14
Will do. The pillows I love have been discontinued. PA_jen Mar 2021 #16
Jeez, a new pillow would take some getting used to True Dough Mar 2021 #20
Have you tried something topical, like: Callalily Mar 2021 #9
Stir the pot. piddyprints Mar 2021 #10
This is one of the PT exercises I am doing Sanity Claws Mar 2021 #23
Salonpas patch or ointment. samplegirl Mar 2021 #12
My orthopedist give me Voltarin. badhair77 Mar 2021 #13
It sounds like you may have... 2naSalit Mar 2021 #15
Thanks. PA_jen Mar 2021 #17
2- acetaminophen + 1-ibuprofen every 8-hrs. Hotler Mar 2021 #18
You may be able to do a tele-visit with a doc and get mild muscle relaxants Lettuce Be Mar 2021 #19
you don't happen to have a moist heating pad that's microwaveable? IcyPeas Mar 2021 #26

alfie

(522 posts)
1. Try acetomenofen (Tylenol) and heat
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:15 AM
Mar 2021

Sometimes alternating with Tylenol will work if Aleve or Motrin have stopped working for me. Heat always helps.

DEbluedude

(816 posts)
2. If you have a yardstick...
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:19 AM
Mar 2021

While standing, hold it in front of you with both hands on each end. Keeping both hands on each end use your left hand push the yardstick as far as you can to the right without twisting your torso. Essentially you're extending the range of motion in your right shoulder which may help. I've used this for many shoulder strains and it works quite well.

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
4. Use a broom handle, if you don't have a yardstick
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:26 AM
Mar 2021

This exercise sounds like something I am doing at physical therapy for my shoulder.
At pt, I lie on my back, with my elbows bent at my waist. I then move the stick to the hurt side slowly, back and forth, 10 times, 2 rounds.

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
3. How do you feel about going to an orthopedist?
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:22 AM
Mar 2021

I recently developed shoulder pain but not as sharp as you described. The pain greatly restricted my range of motion and arm strength. The diagnosis was shoulder impingement and the remedy is physical therapy. I have no idea of its cause but the restrictions came on suddenly.
Can you check out orthodpedists near you? Perhaps you can make an appointment for the first thing in the morning, before the waiting room starts to fill up?
You really need to see a doctor or perhaps a physical therapist to determine what the issue is.
Good luck.

True Dough

(17,301 posts)
21. Sanity Claws
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 12:13 PM
Mar 2021

Did you feel a burning sensation with your shoulder impingement? I figure that might be what I'm suffering from, that or bursitis.

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
22. No burning
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 12:19 PM
Mar 2021

But the orthopedist did say that I may have bursitis as well as shoulder impingement.
People may feel pain differently so you still might have shoulder impingement or bursitis. Frozen shoulder is another possibility. Did you look that up yet?
BTW, I don't know how I would successfully get over my issue without doing PT. I am making progress but I am still not over it, despite approximately 6 PT sessions, together with home exercises.
PT is not a walk in the park. I am now lying in bed because my upper back feels sore from the home PT exercises.

True Dough

(17,301 posts)
24. I just Googled "frozen shoulder"
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 12:31 PM
Mar 2021

No mention of burning sensation.

It's hard to earn a medical degree via the internet!

I hope to avoid frozen shoulder because "signs and symptoms typically begin gradually, worsen over time and then resolve, usually within one to three years."

Only one to three years!?!



Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
25. It does sound awful
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 12:37 PM
Mar 2021

I was relieved when I found out I had shoulder impingement, not frozen shoulder.
I hope you consider going to an orthopedist. I understand why you would want to avoid a hospital and a GP office. However, my guess is that you are less likely to encounter COVID at an orthopedist's office, particularly if you make the first appointment of the day before other patients are in the office.

True Dough

(17,301 posts)
5. Dear PA_jen
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:27 AM
Mar 2021

I wish I could help you, but I want you to know you're not alone.

I had a similar situation occur. I woke up and noticed pain in my left shoulder for the first time. I thought it was incredibly odd that I'd "pull" a muscle or tendon in my sleep. Figured it would go away in a day or two.

It's been well over two months now. It's not a non-stop ache, but when I reach to my side or, worse, upwards, that shoulder experiences an excruciating burning sensation.

Like you, I'm not eager to visit a hospital due to Covid. And I haven't had a family physician since relocating to my current city because there's actually a shortage of them and I couldn't bother going on a waitlist.

So I've just been coping with periodic pain. I'm not a fan of pills and it's tolerable enough (so far) that I haven't had to do anything drastic. But I have bookmarked a site with physiotherapy-style exercises to stretch and strengthen it. I need to do get in the habit of doing that daily.

Best of luck to you.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
8. I bought new pillows
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:39 AM
Mar 2021

My left shoulder and neck hurt worse each day so I put my old, comfortable pillows back on.

Aleve, Aspercreme and work outs in the pool help.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
14. Do not get
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 09:15 AM
Mar 2021

The ones that have a two inch piece between the pillow edge. For me they are too high and I sleep on my left side. Once I do my pool exercise at the Y pool it is much better the Teacher is a Physical Therapist. We are mostly Silver Sneaker gals and one man. It is at 6AM, but worth it. Let us know if you find relief!

True Dough

(17,301 posts)
20. Jeez, a new pillow would take some getting used to
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 12:13 PM
Mar 2021

Maybe it's part of my problem. I've ALWAYS been a single flat pillow guy. Slept well most of my life. No physical ailments worth mentioning up until this shoulder issue.

I'm 48 now so about that common age bracket when aches and pains creep in.

But if it means getting a fancy pillow, maybe I gotta invest. Thanks.

piddyprints

(14,642 posts)
10. Stir the pot.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:47 AM
Mar 2021

Stand with your feet wide apart. Bend forward, hang your arm down, and move it in a circle, like you’re stirring. First do some in one direction and then the other.

Also, I’m a fan of Salonpas capsaicin patches.

Good luck!

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
23. This is one of the PT exercises I am doing
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 12:22 PM
Mar 2021

The only thing is that I am doing it with a 1 lb. weight at the PT office. At home, I use a bottle that weighs close to that, grasp the neck of it between my two first fingers, and gently move it clockwise, the counterclockwise, about 20 times each way.

badhair77

(4,216 posts)
13. My orthopedist give me Voltarin.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 09:08 AM
Mar 2021

It’s in a tube. It just became available over the counter last year. I’ve had success with it at my knee and thumb.

2naSalit

(86,534 posts)
15. It sounds like you may have...
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 09:39 AM
Mar 2021

Instead of something in your shoulder, it could be your spine. I have a lot of experience with spinal-shoulder problems and there is a major connection to shoulder pain that originates in your spine and the space in between, not that shoulders don't host a number of pain inducing issues. I have been doing therapy for over 30 years with an injured shoulder.

Some stretches, as mentioned above could be very helpful. Some stretches that I have used include:

Lay flat on your back on a hard surface like yoga mat (no pillow), raise your knees feet on floor arms sort of out to the side and pull your lower torso/butt toward your feet adjusting the rest of your back to take up slack without moving your head. The idea is to slowly stretch out your spine then rest in that position for a few minutes. You can also, while lying there, do slow rotations with your head, looking from side to side. Also, when getting up, roll to one side to raise your upper body.

While standing, next to a wall or vertical structure, place one hand flat on the wall, feet comfortably apart, rotate your torso slowly as far as you can until you feel a bit of a stretch, then do that in the other direction. Repeat with other side.

If you have tight muscles in your neck/shoulder you can use two tennis balls or racket balls in a sock, tie them tightly into the toe, and while lying on your back as described above, place the sock thing under your shoulders/neck with the balls straddling your spine and count to ten. You can move them all up and down your spine to the end of your rib cage, avoid unprotected organ areas. This is a great tool that I still use often to release tight muscles.

An anti inflammatory is advised along with icing the sore area. Use an ice pack and place it on the sore area until the area is numb, remove ice and let the muscles warm naturally, heat is not always a good thing for this area of your body in distress.

Good luck, there's a lot to know and try but if you have to work it out at home, best to have a variety of options.

Hotler

(11,415 posts)
18. 2- acetaminophen + 1-ibuprofen every 8-hrs.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 10:07 AM
Mar 2021

This works good for tooth aches also. For me ibuprofen works well for bone and muscle pain. Your body may like acetaminophen better.

This Chinese lineament works well; zheng gu shui, find an Asian store or Chinese medicine shop.
Tiger balm or Flexal 454, these I think you can get at Walgreens, Kroger etc.
Flexal 454 is a milder version of what they use on race horses.

I went through a bout of shoulder pain a year or so back. I couldn't raise my arm past my shoulder and it would lock up and hurt like hell to unlock it. Dr. said it was bursitis, I thought it was from sleeping weird. it went away and hasn't been back.

Feel better soon.

Lettuce Be

(2,336 posts)
19. You may be able to do a tele-visit with a doc and get mild muscle relaxants
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 11:18 AM
Mar 2021

At least they'd be able to say whether it'll get better over time or you need an ex-ray. Most likely it's muscle related though. Don't know if they'd prescribe, but seems like if they can see you, it's the same as in-office. Just a thought.

IcyPeas

(21,857 posts)
26. you don't happen to have a moist heating pad that's microwaveable?
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 04:11 PM
Mar 2021

I use this all the time when I get stiff neck/shoulders. I get so I can't look over my shoulder when driving. I don't know what brings it on.... a pillow... stress.... ?

I also have a few different massagers for neck area.

Latest Discussions»The DU Lounge»Anybody have a suggestion...