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Aristus

(66,293 posts)
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 11:27 AM Mar 2021

Just got a call from a doctor at a mainstream health organization.

He wants to set up a residency program for his young MD's coming up to get involved with and learn healthcare for the homeless.

My supervising physician told him about our operations here, and this doctor took a real interest in the challenges of homeless medicine. He runs a family health clinic, and I guess he thinks if his doctors can provide good clinical outcomes for people who are homeless, they can handle family health challenges.

It's exciting.

I'm glad our work here is earning some recognition.

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Just got a call from a doctor at a mainstream health organization. (Original Post) Aristus Mar 2021 OP
... hlthe2b Mar 2021 #1
They've already done that. Aristus Mar 2021 #3
Congrats! I'm sure your clients will benefit as will the residents! MLAA Mar 2021 #2
Congrats, my dear Aristus! What a great opportunity for all of you! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2021 #4
I'll drink to that! Mme. Defarge Mar 2021 #5
Amen. Aristus Mar 2021 #6
That's great! piddyprints Mar 2021 #7
Excellent! Bayard Mar 2021 #8
So glad to hear that you are making a difference! RainCaster Mar 2021 #9
Congratulations and THANK YOU for doing good in the world! CaptainTruth Mar 2021 #10
I always thought if you gave a free ride or partial free ride and have the new MD's work mitch96 Mar 2021 #11
That's what I would do if I had the political clout to make it happen. Aristus Mar 2021 #12
When I worked in Hospitals I can't tell you how many times "specialists" degraded GP's mitch96 Mar 2021 #14
Comes with the territory. Aristus Mar 2021 #15
Yup, You need someone to dump on bitch about and complain abt.. I guess it's in our nature...nt mitch96 Mar 2021 #18
Just saw this after I posted a similar remark leftieNanner Mar 2021 #31
Northern Exposure MetalMama Mar 2021 #33
I love that show. Aristus Mar 2021 #37
I agree, it was one of my all time faves. lark Mar 2021 #40
welcome to DU gopiscrap Mar 2021 #41
That's great, Aristus! ailsagirl Mar 2021 #13
Thank you, ailsagirl! Aristus Mar 2021 #16
Ahhh... ailsagirl Mar 2021 #29
I've always been somewhat interested in the backstories of the homeless. jaxexpat Mar 2021 #17
There are lots of reasons. Aristus Mar 2021 #20
I'm so happy for you, Aristus! Lifting up fellow human beings is one of the most fierywoman Mar 2021 #19
Thank you, fierywoman. Aristus Mar 2021 #22
Great n/t hibbing Mar 2021 #21
That's terrific news, Aristus! calimary Mar 2021 #23
Congrats and thank you for your service, ALL of you. My doctor worked originally as a SWBTATTReg Mar 2021 #24
Congratulations! BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #25
Great news! In_The_Wind Mar 2021 #26
Thank you. Aristus Mar 2021 #27
Gives us hope for the future. TNNurse Mar 2021 #28
Very Cool. leftieNanner Mar 2021 #30
So encouraging - sorely needed Alice Kramden Mar 2021 #32
Congrats to you! bluestarone Mar 2021 #34
That's very kind of you. Aristus Mar 2021 #35
You are very welcome!! bluestarone Mar 2021 #36
The recognition must be so gratifying. 3catwoman3 Mar 2021 #38
Bless your heart, Aristus and your colleagues... Raster Mar 2021 #39
Hooray for our side! n/t malthaussen Mar 2021 #42

Aristus

(66,293 posts)
3. They've already done that.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 11:32 AM
Mar 2021

I spent parts of November and December precepting nursing students in homeless medicine. I admit I feel a little daunted at the prospect of precepting qualified MD's. My supervising physician told me that precepting won't be a proficiency exercise, just familiarizing them with the challenges of treating homeless patients.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,525 posts)
4. Congrats, my dear Aristus! What a great opportunity for all of you!
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 11:35 AM
Mar 2021

Thank goodness for forward looking people!

mitch96

(13,870 posts)
11. I always thought if you gave a free ride or partial free ride and have the new MD's work
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:14 PM
Mar 2021

in under served areas for a few years would be great..I bet quite a few people with the smarts and desire to be medical doctors but did not have the money... YMMV..
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Aristus

(66,293 posts)
12. That's what I would do if I had the political clout to make it happen.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:20 PM
Mar 2021

Offer free medical school to any qualified applicant on the proviso that they work in an underserved, underinsured community for a certain specific length of time, say 3-4 years. I would also offer incentives to recently-graduated MD's who made a career in primary care, for which there is a shortage of providers right now.

MD's graduate with so much student debt that many of them go in to specialty care fields where they can charge for expensive procedures, thereby paying down their debt faster.

mitch96

(13,870 posts)
14. When I worked in Hospitals I can't tell you how many times "specialists" degraded GP's
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:46 PM
Mar 2021

The ones I've met sort of thought that they were "losers" that could not make it into a "good " specialties"... I think working with real people not just the next facelift, tummy tuck or Blepharoplasty would be great... Not knocking plastics but that is where I heard most comments... YMMY..
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Aristus

(66,293 posts)
15. Comes with the territory.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:50 PM
Mar 2021

Rivalries are going to happen in any profession where there's enough differentiated responsibility to cause factions.

When I was in the Army, we hated the Marines, and they hated us.

We tankers hated the infantry, and they hated us.

MetalMama

(83 posts)
33. Northern Exposure
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 07:23 PM
Mar 2021

That's the plot of the old tv show Northern Exposure. In the show, Rob Morrow played New York City native Joel Fleischman, a recently graduated physician who is sent to practice in Anchorage, Alaska, for several years to repay the state of Alaska for underwriting his medical education. However, much to his chagrin, he is assigned to the much smaller and remote town of Cicely, which is in need of a general practitioner. (from Wikipedia)

Also, there's the National Health Service Corps which provides scholarships and loan repayment programs to med school students who will serve as primary care doctors in underserved or uninsured areas for a specific length of time.

The problem is attracting the students.

Aristus

(66,293 posts)
37. I love that show.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 09:39 PM
Mar 2021

Watched it all the time. I thought Jeanine Turner was the sexiest woman on television. Then I found out what a right-wing loon she is, and my ardor cooled significantly.

Still love Rob Morrow, though...

I live an hour or so from the town where they shot the exteriors for the show.

Welcome to DU, MetalMama.

lark

(23,065 posts)
40. I agree, it was one of my all time faves.
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 09:03 AM
Mar 2021

Need to find it and rewatch the series again, wonder if it's on Netflix?.

ailsagirl

(22,885 posts)
29. Ahhh...
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 05:13 PM
Mar 2021

Ailsa Craig, the most beautiful of islands, with zero population. Wish I could move there!

jaxexpat

(6,803 posts)
17. I've always been somewhat interested in the backstories of the homeless.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:57 PM
Mar 2021

I wonder how many are put on the path to homelessness because of unpaid medical bills? Or addiction issues with prescribed drugs?

Could be that the medical community can help with prevention on the front end as well as healthcare after the fall.

Aristus

(66,293 posts)
20. There are lots of reasons.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:13 PM
Mar 2021

Unpaid medical bills or bankruptcy of any kind.
Domestic abuse.
Mental illness.
Drug abuse. Although this one may also be a result of homelessness, as much as a cause. I have female patients who take methamphetamine to stay alert at night so they don't get raped.
Family rejection. I had one patient who was undocumented from Mexico. He came out as gay to his conservative Catholic family, and they threw him out. He came to the States hoping for better treatment as a gay person, and ended up on the streets.
Physical disability. My military veterans fill in a huge crossover between this reason and mental illness.
Ex-cons. These guys don't usually stay on the streets long. They either mainstream pretty quickly, or end up back in the joint. People express fear around ex-cons, but they are routinely my most polite and cooperative homeless patients.

The list goes on and on...

fierywoman

(7,671 posts)
19. I'm so happy for you, Aristus! Lifting up fellow human beings is one of the most
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:03 PM
Mar 2021

satisfying activities that exist.

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
24. Congrats and thank you for your service, ALL of you. My doctor worked originally as a
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:30 PM
Mar 2021

biologist or something similar at Monsanto, and wanted to become a doctor, so he went the full route and got his doctorate, ever since then, he's been my family physician. He's always bringing in young NPs, and others that I assume that are on the path of gaining their degrees and/or NP licenses.

It's nice to see these young professionals coming in, and since I don't have to see my primary physician (my aliments aren't severe enough to warrant), I will have one of his NPs see me instead (I usually go just for a physical every year, refills on blood pressure meds).

All are great, all are wonderful, and I want to continue to support his practice, he is also one of the primary care doctors in my geographical area that specializes in HIV related care, so he also has a strength/discipline that has unfortunately picked up (last 20 years or so), demand wise. But it is nice to know that he has the expertise too in this area too.

It's hard enough to keep up w/ the general literature, new and / or constantly revised medical procedures and / or processes, etc. I don't see how you all do it. You have my upmost admiration and respect.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,560 posts)
25. Congratulations!
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:13 PM
Mar 2021

It's not just about accolades and personal visibility. 95% of doctors would rather be good doctors the celebrated doctors, in my experience.

Visibility for the program is very beneficial, though, and not just for recognition, but for increased funding and for credibility when you need someone with say-so on your side.

A very good day for you and your program, I'd say.

leftieNanner

(15,066 posts)
30. Very Cool.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 05:50 PM
Mar 2021

I wonder if the medical schools would allow graduates to "work off" some of their debt by doing this kind of work.

A friend of my daughter's graduated from Harvard Law a few years back, and because she is working for an immigration focused non-profit organization (not one of the big Manhattan firms), they are gradually erasing her $240,000 debt.

Low income and homeless folks need good healthcare too.

bluestarone

(16,864 posts)
34. Congrats to you!
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 07:48 PM
Mar 2021

I feel honored knowing you ( by all your comments here) and KNOW you will be one of the best persons to do this!! There IS hope for America with people like yourself!!!!

3catwoman3

(23,949 posts)
38. The recognition must be so gratifying.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 10:12 PM
Mar 2021

Don’t let the letters after their names intimidate you. Nothing substitutes for the expertise gained from real-world experience, and you have loads of that

I am always impressed by your descriptions of the clinical situations you handle, and I am quite sure the young MDs will be, too.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
39. Bless your heart, Aristus and your colleagues...
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 06:02 AM
Mar 2021

...the homeless, the working poor are vastly underserved and in great need.

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